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Posted by n3lly on Mar-08-2005 22:55:

Hmm interesting..

What exactly are the differences... (actually scratch that i'll look at the Vestax website and see what they say. Not that i'll understand half the stuff they're saying.)

But still, i don't actually think i can get that mixer over here (ireland or even in england)..

cheers for the idea though.. I can see there's a few switches missing and an input on the top left of the amp..

Anywho, i'll read up on them now so.

nelly

Posted by Derivative on Mar-08-2005 23:31:

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My friend has the 626i and also I have use it. To very honest it really really sucks. Especially the crossfader. It started to bleed after less then a year of use. The mixers output of volume and sound is really weak. I dont know how much their worth these days but I wouldnt pay more than 50 bucks for the mixer.

what did you expect for 70 quid brand new? ive seen em on ebay for 30 quid in great condition. now thats not a bad price at all - especially if you are just starting out and you may have reservations about DJing.

vestax mixers are generally popular around here though. built like brick shit houses. they are the boss guitar pedals of the mixer world - you cant fucking destroy them. recommended if you have the money to spend.

Posted by DJ STEEVROCK on Mar-08-2005 23:40:

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Originally posted by Derivative
especially if you are just starting out and you may have reservations about DJing.

If you buy something shitty and that doesnt work, your chances of really taking Djing seriously is probably gonna go down the drain.

Cheap things arent good and Good things arent cheap!!

Food for thought

Posted by Derivative on Mar-09-2005 00:03:

well the number of people i see that buy guitars and buy decks and then leave em in a corner to gather dust. its pretty unreal. especially since most of them have had better guitars than ive ever owned and ive been palying for 8 years on an acoustic that many considered unplayable. ive gotten softer since i bought an electric. and if you really really love what you are doing, you will stick with it no matter what. my sis's boyfriend learned on belt drives. hes still got them and hes fucking amazing when you consider there isnt a moment where he isnt holding one of the records back or bringing the other one up to speed. he gets my respect but hes good at what he does, he never let his shit equipment get in the way of his dream, and he took it seriously enough that he went for residancy at luton uni. i should check if he got it.

if you cant afford anything more then a 70 quid gemini thats final. spending more money on something 'better' is not an option. its money you dont have. simple. pah.

i make do with the lowest of the low studio equipment and i dont think im not doing that badly either. food for thought - the person behind the equipment is more important than the equipment itself. good tools will rarely disguise a bad worksman at his trade.

maybe thats different in supastar DJing where bling is as important as anything else. but hey...

Posted by DJ STEEVROCK on Mar-09-2005 00:17:

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Originally posted by Derivative
well the number of people i see that buy guitars and buy decks and then leave em in a corner to gather dust. its pretty unreal. especially since most of them have had better guitars than ive ever owned and ive been palying for 8 years on an acoustic that many considered unplayable. ive gotten softer since i bought an electric. and if you really really love what you are doing, you will stick with it no matter what. my sis's boyfriend learned on belt drives. hes still got them and hes fucking amazing when you consider there isnt a moment where he isnt holding one of the records back or bringing the other one up to speed. he gets my respect but hes good at what he does, he never let his shit equipment get in the way of his dream, and he took it seriously enough that he went for residancy at luton uni. i should check if he got it.

if you cant afford anything more then a 70 quid gemini thats final. spending more money on something 'better' is not an option. its money you dont have. simple. pah.

i make do with the lowest of the low studio equipment and i dont think im not doing that badly either. food for thought - the person behind the equipment is more important than the equipment itself. good tools will rarely disguise a bad worksman at his trade.

maybe thats different in supastar DJing where bling is as important as anything else. but hey...

That make absolutley no sense. Thats like saying Im not going to use a computer because I cant afford it. Advanced quailty technology is expensive for a reason because IT HELPS and WORKS!!

Again Cheap things arent Good and Good things arent Cheap!!

I would love to see your friend scratch or backspin on a belt drive turntables. Not doubting his skills but there are certain things you cant do with some pieces of equipment.

Posted by Derivative on Mar-09-2005 00:29:

of course he cant backspin or scratch on a belt drive - it would fuck the motor. but given the tools hes got hes damn good. and learning on belt drives meant that as soon as he got on techs he could do like 30 second mixes. it was pretty mindblowing considering i learned on direct drives and it takes me ages to beatmatch.

if you want to do something computer related and cant afford a fast computer you get a slower, cheaper one. what exactly doesnt make sense?

cant afford techs? get cheaper decks. cant afford direct drives fullstop? buy some second hand belts off a friend. if money is that tight and you wanted to DJ that would probably be your only option. you'll have a torrid time of it learning the ropes but the best DJs and the best musicians i know were the ones who stuck it through shit instruments and got good in spite of their equipment. a good guitarist can make any guitar sound good. my old guitar teacher could play cemetry gates on my old shit acoustic and it sounded great (even with artificial harmonics!). he didnt need his fucking gibson SG to play amazing stuff.

having cheap equipment is no excuse for being shit at what you do. nowadays in production, mosto f my instruments are freeware and fruity loops internal. you dont need expensive synths to make good music. there are many things i cant do without a fucking 80 grand recording studio but thats not the point. the point is what you *can* do with the tools you've got.

Posted by DJ STEEVROCK on Mar-09-2005 00:50:

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Originally posted by Derivative
of course he cant backspin or scratch on a belt drive - it would fuck the motor. but given the tools hes got hes damn good. and learning on belt drives meant that as soon as he got on techs he could do like 30 second mixes. it was pretty mindblowing considering i learned on direct drives and it takes me ages to beatmatch.

if you want to do something computer related and cant afford a fast computer you get a slower, cheaper one. what exactly doesnt make sense?

cant afford techs? get cheaper decks. cant afford direct drives fullstop? buy some second hand belts off a friend. if money is that tight and you wanted to DJ that would probably be your only option. you'll have a torrid time of it learning the ropes but the best DJs and the best musicians i know were the ones who stuck it through shit instruments and got good in spite of their equipment. a good guitarist can make any guitar sound good. my old guitar teacher could play cemetry gates on my old shit acoustic and it sounded great (even with artificial harmonics!). he didnt need his fucking gibson SG to play amazing stuff.

having cheap equipment is no excuse for being shit at what you do. nowadays in production, mosto f my instruments are freeware and fruity loops internal. you dont need expensive synths to make good music. there are many things i cant do without a fucking 80 grand recording studio but thats not the point. the point is what you *can* do with the tools you've got.

Again I not doubting your friends skills but hes limiting his skills because your buying cheap products. Thats never gonna get you ahead of the game. VSTs work with Floops because your using expensive technology to process all that information. Last time I checked computer arent that cheap and Floops would never work if you were running on a pentium 1 computer.

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