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Originally posted by colonelcrisp note the words "German TUNER" and "Based on the 911 GT2" this is not a production vehicle and does not qualify. does anyone know the run numbers that the vehicle must be produced in to qualify, i know the mclaren wasnt considered "production" ford is building 1500 GT's this year to meet the production quota's but i dont know what the magic number is. Its nice to see a car take a record with good ol ford pony's under the hood tho. albeit i would have loved to see a flat head in there but only time will tell

the number of cars to be built to be considered production differs from what governing body you are trying to get it approved by. for the Nippon racing leage, Nissan had to build 3 new long body 350z's in order for it to be considered productions. the Mclaren was production, with about 100 being built over the course of its life. It had a specially built facility, an assembly line, everything. definatly at production car.


i still dont understand this talk about banked versus nobanked. what diff does it make?

you cant drive wide open on a curve, youll always go faster on the straight. simple physics, if you take the turn to fast in a car no matter what car it is, you go off the edge... its called centripetal acceleration.


as for production,3 cars doesnt qualify for produciton vehicle and neither does 100 over its lifetime. both those vehicles are not production cars. most race governing bodies require 1000 vehicles publicly sold before they can enter a circuit. all that aside, your 9FF isnt a production car anyways, its a tuned car made by someone else. hell i could tune up a ford GT, get rid of that sissy paxton blower on it and throw on a nice big roots charger and have that puppy up over 1000 hp runiing on grain juice, but that doesnt make that car a production vehicle even if i were to sell 500 of them.


since i have never heard of 9FF before i doubt i could go to a porsche dealership and order one. this car is considered a specialty, or custom if you will. hell its basically a tuned up 911 GT2.

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Originally posted by colonelcrisp you cant drive wide open on a curve, youll always go faster on the straight. simple physics, if you take the turn to fast in a car no matter what car it is, you go off the edge... its called centripetal acceleration. as for production,3 cars doesnt qualify for produciton vehicle and neither does 100 over its lifetime. both those vehicles are not production cars. most race governing bodies require 1000 vehicles publicly sold before they can enter a circuit. all that aside, your 9FF isnt a production car anyways, its a tuned car made by someone else. hell i could tune up a ford GT, get rid of that sissy paxton blower on it and throw on a nice big roots charger and have that puppy up over 1000 hp runiing on grain juice, but that doesnt make that car a production vehicle even if i were to sell 500 of them. since i have never heard of 9FF before i doubt i could go to a porsche dealership and order one. this car is considered a specialty, or custom if you will. hell its basically a tuned up 911 GT2.

you are aware that both the mcl and the long body 250z race in their prespective leauges. so i do believe they are allowed on circuit

for 1 off cars this was one hell of a car
254 mph !!

american muscle as well

http://www.geocities.com/MotorCity/6492/callaway.htm

so the original statement at the begining of the tread is valid
production car , not tuner , not one off not custom

Just to clarify, I don't give a shit, I just posted the link

im sorry let me re define production vehicle, if you were given 150,000 US dollars could you go to the nissan dealership and get a long body 350Z? or would you have to be rich and famous to even hope at getting one. cause if you answered yes to number 2, it aint production


a production vehicle is one that is availible to the general public,

for instance the ferrari enzo is not production but the challenge stradale is a production car since if i had money to waste i could go to a ferrari dealserhip and order one.

by your defenition the Thrust II was a production vehicle

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Originally posted by colonelcrisp im sorry let me re define production vehicle, if you were given 150,000 US dollars could you go to the nissan dealership and get a long body 350Z? or would you have to be rich and famous to even hope at getting one. cause if you answered yes to number 2, it aint production

Actually you can order one from any Nissan dealership in Japan. It's nothing more than a body modification - new front and rear valances.

touche, so its not a northamerican production vehicle, but you can buy it in japan fair enuff

The Koeni is a nice car, but I don't think its reliability is very high, I've heard various things on different forums, and in one of the vids I got of the Gumball 3000 rally, some rich guy decides to buy one just for the rally (loadsa money) and he had problems in pretty much every race, I don't think he completed the rally as it just kept crappin out on him, I'll have to watch it again, I ain't bashing it as it has a Ford engine, I'm a fan of the GT, I just hope they made the reliability much better, but I'd still rather have a McLaren F1, or Mercedes McLaren SLR, or better still save loads of cash and get one of these.

Ariel Atom


Only 20,000 pounds, has a Supercharged Civic Type R engine tuned to 300HP, on a 500kg body and hits 60mph in 2.8 seconds, and as for cornering, well SEE YA, around a circuit, its as fast as a Ferrari Enzo, and its Street Legal, well in England anyway.

For a video of this, download this episode of Top Gear, this is a bittorrent file.

Ariel Atom on Top Gear

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Originally posted by DannyO Ariel Atom Only 20,000 pounds, has a Supercharged Civic Type R engine tuned to 300HP, on a 500kg body and hits 60mph in 2.8 seconds, and as for cornering, well SEE YA, around a circuit, its as fast as a Ferrari Enzo, and its Street Legal, well in England anyway.

Yup, this is my favourite 4-wheeled machine at the moment. Even moreso than a Lotus Exige or a 340R.

America doesn't do reliable, they do BIG and FAST!

Yeah, their GT40 concept looks dope!

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Originally posted by Kalsonik Yeah, their GT40 concept looks dope!

Concept? That's a production car, already on the streets. The 2005 Ford GT.

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Originally posted by VERTiG0 Concept? That's a production car, already on the streets. The 2005 Ford GT.

really? I wonder what the retail on one would be.. prolly like 200k

ford GT

assembled - Wixom Assembly plant - SVT special vehicles building
production run - 1500 units


it makes me cream my pants every time i see one


ill post some pics when i get my scanner working but i spent a day at wixom assembly at the beginnign of hte summer when they were just starting the production runs, and i have a pic of me standing in front of a row of the first 20 built.


i have a 1964 ford pickup at my unlces farm that is still runing. and never breaks down. so yes american cars are dependable reliable and fast.

o and check out the ford mustang GTR concept. that is a sexy beast as well. its my kind of car, fuck the interior, give me a sparco carbon fiber bucket seat, a hursch slap stick and a big american supercharged V8 any day of the week.

I dunno much about cars but i thought the bugatti veyron was the fastest car in the world now or hasnt it been released yet... cant imagine a car topping these stats



# A W-16 engine that can produce 1,001 horsepower
# A top speed of 250+ mph (400+ kph)
# A zero-to-60 time of three seconds
# A zero-to-180 time of 14 seconds
# A price tag somewhere in the $1 million range.

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Originally posted by raveed I dunno much about cars but i thought the bugatti veyron was the fastest car in the world now or hasnt it been released yet... cant imagine a car topping these stats # A W-16 engine that can produce 1,001 horsepower # A top speed of 250+ mph (400+ kph) # A zero-to-60 time of three seconds # A zero-to-180 time of 14 seconds # A price tag somewhere in the $1 million range.

they still havent delivered any to the consumers. they had a problem with the aerodynamics, because its pretty unstable at those speeds. So they are testing models with a wing, but then that drops it below the speed record...so they arent actually finished yet.

colonelcrisp: i dont understand why the Enzo is now not a production car. Yes you have to have previously owned 2 ferrari's to get your hands on one, but that doesnt mean its not open to the general public. You can go get yourself two ferrari's and then buy one(used now).

i think we really do differ when it comes to what we think a production car. And as for the Mclaren, what do you say about its racing past...it used to compete against the Porsche 911 GT1, Mercedes CLK GTR, and the like...

Interesting...but can it beat this baby?

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Originally posted by starsearcher Interesting...but can it beat this baby?

haha...it only takes 600bhp to get up to 200+mph, but it takes 105,000hp to get up to 700+mph! stupid exponentially increasing drag! lol

VAG can't get the Veyron to work properly. I saw this on a British car website a few months back, it outlines the Veyron's problems perfectly.

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Originally posted by Kalsonik really? I wonder what the retail on one would be.. prolly like 200k

134,995 US, if i recall correctly.

too bad the ford gt has had so many recalls already.

i know very well how diff engines work however its ghey to get into a pissing match as to what was used to get xx time or xx mph.

Originally posted by starsearcher
Interesting...but can it beat this baby?



AHHH the thrust II.... i wanna commute with that baby.

The car is named after one of the largest and fastest birds in Eastern Europe.

The Koenig often weighs upward of 200 pounds with an average wingspan of 18 feet. It can reach up to 120 MPH during flight.

The car's name comes from the astonishing feat survived by the offspring of the Koenig immediately after they are hatched.

The Koenig lays its eggs mid-flight, which often leads to a several hundred foot drop back down to earth.

Surprisingly, the eggs always survive the blistering speeds and final contact with the ground.

Thus, a car which can attain and comfortably survive such speeds would aptly be named Koenig's Egg (Koenigsegg).

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