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Originally posted by malek yeah, but the tamron is still better than the 18-55mm. And that 16-35 L F2.8 is way over my budget (2k) at this moment...

definitly true enough, I took a look at the pics you posted, I can't see any obvious abherations, but then the pics are reduced in size and such. Not bad at all.

7 mp, that's just overkill. I can't imagine why anyone would want this much in a phone, as sending pics of that size would be very limited to a few that have enough space on their phones to receive it.

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Originally posted by zokissima 7 mp, that's just overkill. I can't imagine why anyone would want this much in a phone, as sending pics of that size would be very limited to a few that have enough space on their phones to receive it.

Uh. "640KB ought to be enough for anybody."

And I quoted him correctly this time Durafei!

EDIT: Oh and BTW, 35mm film would be the equivalent to ~25 megapixels.

Shit yeha, didn't read the post right. Still, it's just the same old, bigger-better-louder doctrine

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Originally posted by SurrJRS EDIT: Oh and BTW, 35mm film would equivalent to ~25 megapixels.

Really? wow that's massive ...cool good to know!

Although I always wonder how do they make those MASSIVE billboards without damaging the quality?

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Originally posted by starsearcher Really? wow that's massive ...cool good to know! Although I always wonder how do they make those MASSIVE billboards without damaging the quality?

I had heard that a while back, and confirmed it with a google search on "film 25 megapixels"

http://www.kenrockwell.com/tech/mpmyth.htm

"If you do fret the pixel counts, I find that it takes about 25 megapixels to simulate 35mm film, which is still far more than any practical digital camera."

hhmmm interesting...but i still don't know how they create those MAAAAAAAASSIVE billboard type prints ...

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Originally posted by starsearcher hhmmm interesting...but i still don't know how they create those MAAAAAAAASSIVE billboard type prints ...

Multiple shots, and use the stitch assist software to bind them together. Bah, I'm talking outa my ass, I don't actually know...

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Originally posted by SurrJRS Multiple shots, and use the stitch assist software to bind them together. Bah, I'm talking outa my ass, I don't actually know...

If you have a very high quality image scan of a 35mm shot, or from a very good digicam, there are utilities that can enlarge the pictures on a grand scale, while internal algorithms resolve colour saturation, quality, and other factors like that. We used to do that at a place I worked at. It's just one method, but I'm sure that there are several.

the massive billboards are done using large/medium format photography. NOT 35MM

http://www.largeformatphotography.info/why.html

hhmmm large format photography....interesting ...Actually every time I see a serious photoshoot (like fashion or modeling or whatever) they always have these big almost box-like looking cameras that look totally oldschool...I've always been wondering what those are.

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Originally posted by starsearcher hhmmm large format photography....interesting ...Actually every time I see a serious photoshoot (like fashion or modeling or whatever) they always have these big almost box-like looking cameras that look totally oldschool...I've always been wondering what those are.

thats medium format - fashion photography for magazines and such is almost soley done in medium format. Hasselblad and Mamiya are the most famous medium format camera manufacturers. You can use a digital back for them as well, the best one is the Phase one which is 22Megapixels @ 20Ku.s

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Originally posted by drgoodvibe thats medium format - fashion photography for magazines and such is almost soley done in medium format. Hasselblad and Mamiya are the most famous medium format camera manufacturers. You can use a digital back for them as well, the best one is the Phase one which is 22Megapixels @ 20Ku.s

jebus...20k that's insane!!!

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Originally posted by starsearcher jebus...20k that's insane!!!

Chances are if you need this kind of camera, you make enough to be able to afford it.

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Originally posted by SurrJRS Chances are if you need this kind of camera, you make enough to be able to afford it.

that's just for the digital back, the actual camera minus the lens is like 4k new, the lens is another story. lol

How come the lenses are so expensive?

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Originally posted by zokissima How come the lenses are so expensive?

Cause that's what it's all really about....optics ...technology in itself is not really expensive and the prices are constantly decreasing, but optics is really what makes the picture - there are lots of special features in the lenses too...

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Originally posted by zokissima How come the lenses are so expensive?

Lens's depend on Focal length, size of zoom, coatings on glass, whether they're made to correct for aberrations such as astigmatism -- there are lenses that have a lens element to correct lateral chromatic aberrations -- these are all in very high end len's. The quality of the glass, really the time spent in the refinement of them sets the price. The lower the focal length such as say F2.8 the higher the cost.. the more or less zoom, such as ultra wide angle, or telephoto, the higher the cost.. lens coatings and aberration correction add cost becuase the manufacturer has to spend more time refining each piece of aspherical glass.

Thanks for the info. So I'm correct in assuming that these lenses aren't mass produced to any degree.

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Originally posted by zokissima Thanks for the info. So I'm correct in assuming that these lenses aren't mass produced to any degree.

Most are actually I think...especially the usual brand name ones like Canon and Nikon...the specialty lenses are different

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Originally posted by zokissima Thanks for the info. So I'm correct in assuming that these lenses aren't mass produced to any degree.

depends on the lens really, the lower end len's that are well jsut average in quality are mass produced, but the high quality len's tend to need much more care in production. It's like putting together a Ferrari but for your camera =-]

Thanks again for the info. I saw a production schema for contact lenses and other lenses meant for the consumer market, and even though they were produced on a massive scale, most still required a lot of human intervention in the process, so I guess it's the same for camera lenses. The more specific the application, the more customization must be involved, and thus the cost goes up.

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Originally posted by zokissima Thanks again for the info. I saw a production schema for contact lenses and other lenses meant for the consumer market, and even though they were produced on a massive scale, most still required a lot of human intervention in the process, so I guess it's the same for camera lenses. The more specific the application, the more customization must be involved, and thus the cost goes up.

you got it.

no processing done, straight from the camera...
EXIF:
1/100, F4.0, 17mm, ISO400, Flash fired.

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