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Posted by Cobalt on Mar-15-2005 00:53:

quote:
Originally posted by Arbiter
Earth is a planet. God is what happens when you run out of better excuses.

I'm so glad that many here agree with this. Here in the American deep south, the blind religiousness is suffocating. Atheists and agnostics are treated like some sort of social disease that must be cured. Ironic, really.

In America in general, should you openly deny religious leanings, you're pretty much out of running for political office. Sad and rather disturbing.


Posted by Krypton on Mar-15-2005 00:54:

quote:
Originally posted by Zenchowdah
well... if you're not about to get philosophical up in this piece

then why are you here?


because

quote:
Originally posted by Zenchowdah
Discuss.


discussion involves more than mere statements.


Posted by wizniz on Mar-15-2005 00:54:

imo, god was a dick who changed w/ peoples feelings on what he should be. unless god had a change of heart (but he knows everything, so why would he ) then i think that he should still be the megalomaniacal egotistic dick that he used to be. at least then i'd know. all these loopholes to get you to believe in the possibility such as being able to love god w/out ever having seen him. why wouldnt he want to meet me .

no god. just hope.
believe in hope. not god.


Posted by Cobalt on Mar-15-2005 00:59:

quote:
Originally posted by wizniz
no god. just hope.
believe in hope. not god.

Aye, optimism has no philosophical holes. Believe in the power of human action. Believe in justice. Believe in our ability to create an improving quality of life. But don't believe in some supernatural force that will do it for us.


Posted by Krypton on Mar-15-2005 01:01:

quote:
Originally posted by wizniz
imo, god was a dick who changed w/ peoples feelings on what he should be. unless god had a change of heart (but he knows everything, so why would he ) then i think that he should still be the megalomaniacal egotistic dick that he used to be. at least then i'd know. all these loopholes to get you to believe in the possibility such as being able to love god w/out ever having seen him. why wouldnt he want to meet me .

no god. just hope.
believe in hope. not god.


are u talking about the christian god? what will belief in hope get u? ide rather believe a gnostic viewpoint than something as mediocre as hope being able to rescue u from your problems.


Posted by wizniz on Mar-15-2005 01:06:

my bizzle: the christian god.

sorry wasnt thinking openly there.


as for "hope"...
read cobalt's comment. he most definitely extended where my thought process was going on that one.


Posted by smokeape on Mar-15-2005 01:06:

What, you wanna f*ck with the Allmighty?



Then, just let me smite you a little, eh mate?



F*ck with me again, and you'll get the smiting of your life!


[[[smoke]]]

Michael Splint ft Sasja - Secrets (DJ Choose & F Mix)


Posted by Halcyon+On+On on Mar-15-2005 01:43:

quote:
It's not God that I have a problem with; it's his fanclub that I can't stand.


Posted by igottaknow on Mar-15-2005 01:48:

quote:
Originally posted by Halcyon+On+On


Posted by Krypton on Mar-15-2005 02:07:

horror stories anyone? radical christians banging u over the head at your college campuses?


Posted by Mr. Pink on Mar-15-2005 02:10:

quote:
Originally posted by Zenchowdah
god is what you want it to be. doesnt have to be a 'Him', it could be an idea, a car, a fucking turkey sandwich if itll complete you. God is what we're waiting for. think about it from our side instead of the other side. we are waiting for god, but we dont know what that is. god will complete us. god is whatever the hell you want it to be.


waiting for god?

meh, i dont see it like that at all


Posted by igottaknow on Mar-15-2005 02:12:

quote:
Originally posted by Mr. Pink
waiting for god? meh, i dont see it like that at all

that's because you're waiting for satan


Posted by Mr. Pink on Mar-15-2005 02:13:

Rasta

naaaa, s0n.

me and lucifer go way back.

we used to be chillin like a villain- but then he got too chillin and too villain


Posted by Zenchowdah on Mar-15-2005 02:14:

quote:
Originally posted by igottaknow
that's because you're waiting for satan


im sorry, the answer is waiting for godot, waiting for godot, thanks for playing


Posted by Halcyon+On+On on Mar-15-2005 02:26:

I was once working behind the counter of a fine, taco-manufacturing, expedited delivery establishment (Taco Bell) when a middle-aged man entered throught the front doors holding large, bundled stacks of what looked to be small pamphlets. He was handing them out to everyone he could find, and when he finally worked his way around the lobby to me, he handed me about 5 or 6 of them. They were in both English and Spanish, and each one had a different title which concerned a different topic which, in pretty much everywhere but white-bred Colorado, would have gotten him shot in the face. "Allah Had No Son"..."Are Roman Catholics really Christians?"(I still have that one ) - that sort of thing - these pamphlets were AGAINST anything BUT, conservative-based, Protestant Christian doctrine. Everything else in the world was a lie, and this man was intent on telling everyone there all about it. I'm glad he left peacefully, because I don't have much patience for people who think that they're absolutely right all the damn time.

I later realised that the very fact that I thought he was offending people is, in itself, offensive. People should believe in whatever the hell they want to believe because, ultimately, all belief stems from desire anyways. Why do people believe in god? Because they want to. Why would they want to? Because they want to go to Heaven. Can you think of a single religious person who consciously practices their religion and honestly believes that they are going to Hell? Of course not - people believe to serve themselves, and they feel conviction when they can convert others to believe in it as well. Like there's some sort of reward system God has set up for his followers. Hey, maybe God will give me a free ipod if I can only convert 5 more people!

Not very likely.

Hell is a manifestation of the mind - if anything, this is what Jesus was trying to convey. His message may have been fucked around a bit too much by monks in the 17th century (who knows?) but Heaven and peace are states of mind - acceptance of your world and of your fellow man are steps towards a conscious happiness which can only be attained through you and you, alone. All others are living in Hell, but neither state of being is eternal until you have reached that inexpressible point of... halcyon?

Realise that God both exists and doesn't just as one person may believe in him and the next does not. In essence, do not deify God too much.


Posted by Lira on Mar-15-2005 02:29:

If Earth is God`s Waiting room, does it mean sex makes you feel better because you might end up not being the last person in the queue anymore?


Posted by sensorium on Mar-15-2005 02:31:



Very good you Mr. Lira.


Posted by Krypton on Mar-15-2005 02:39:

quote:
Originally posted by Halcyon+On+On

Hell is a manifestation of the mind - if anything, this is what Jesus was trying to convey. His message may have been fucked around a bit too much by monks in the 17th century (who knows?) but Heaven and peace are states of mind - acceptance of your world and of your fellow man are steps towards a conscious happiness which can only be attained through you and you, alone. All others are living in Hell, but neither state of being is eternal until you have reached that inexpressible point of... halcyon?

Realise that God both exists and doesn't just as one person may believe in him and the next does not. In essence, do not deify God too much.



u seem to hold a pantheistic point of view. a believer in relativism.

but, from the descriptions ive read about hell, hell definately is not a "state of mind", but a very real place. descriptions like the ones ive read are in contexts describing a place, and not an attitude.


Posted by DJ Joshua H on Mar-15-2005 02:52:

I heard this quote once:

"Man is the stage between apes and superhumans"

discuss..


Posted by smokeape on Mar-15-2005 02:56:

quote:
Originally posted by DJ Joshua H
I heard this quote once:

"Man is the stage between apes and superhumans"

discuss..


Nope, there is a SuperApe!!!



Lol!
[[[smoke]]]

Walsh & Coutre ft Holly - Burn (Van Bellen Mix)

...Superheroez Rulez!!!!!!


Posted by denys envy on Mar-15-2005 02:57:

Why have God, when you can have ALLAH!



he will give you 70 virgins after death


Posted by Mr. Pink on Mar-15-2005 02:58:

Rasta

i think ive already topped 70 virgins in life


Posted by Halcyon+On+On on Mar-15-2005 03:19:

quote:
Originally posted by ::TranceVanDyk::
u seem to hold a pantheistic point of view. a believer in relativism.

but, from the descriptions ive read about hell, hell definately is not a "state of mind", but a very real place. descriptions like the ones ive read are in contexts describing a place, and not an attitude.


Ok.

Thanks.


Posted by Zenchowdah on Mar-15-2005 04:04:

man, notice i didnt say heaven's waiting room, i said god's waiting room


get your minds outta the bible, people.


Posted by DJ Joshua H on Mar-15-2005 05:53:

quote:
Originally posted by smokeape
Nope, there is a SuperApe!!!



Lol!
[[[smoke]]]

Walsh & Coutre ft Holly - Burn (Van Bellen Mix)

...Superheroez Rulez!!!!!!


haha!


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