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Posted by sandstorm03 on Mar-16-2005 17:27:

quote:
Originally posted by b i n k u n
this is seriously ridiculous....i'm wondering how many 2005 mixes/remixes/edits/updates/etc we will see by the end of the year...it's only march and i swear there are more then 20...

someone want to start a list?


ill keep updateing my first post...


Posted by sandstorm03 on Mar-16-2005 17:38:

Gerry Cueto - messages (solange - messages)


Posted by stamper on Mar-16-2005 23:33:

Just looking through CHemical records at the moment, here are some re-releases that are either new or restocked in the last 2 weeks:

Airwave - Save Me (Dynni / Whiteroom remixes)
Armin - Blue Fear 2005
ALy & Fila - Eyes Of Horus (Solid Globe Remix)
Cosmic Gate Featuring Jan Johnston - I Feel Wonderful
Chicane Featuring Bryan Adams - Dont Give Up 2004
Hydra - Affinity 2005
Dave 202 Meets Dumonde - Singularity 2005 (Brainchild - Symetry C clone)
Delerium - Silence 2005 (Above & beyond / filterheadz)
Filo & Peri - Juicy 2004
Hemstock & Jennings - Crimson Soil 2004
Jose Amnesia - The Eternal
LSG - Netherworld 2005
Matt Darey Pres Li Kwan - Point Zero 2004
Mike Koglin - The Silence 2005
Moogwai - Viola 2005
Nu-NRG - Dreamland 2005
Plastic Boy - Twixt 2004
Pulp Victim - The World 2004
Pulser - Cloudwalking 2005
Signum - First Strike 2004
Signum - Second Wave 2004
Solarstone Presents Elizabeth Fields - Speak In Sympathy 2004
Sunblind - Believe
Randy Katana - Fancy Fair 2005
Ron Hagen & Pascal M - On Stream
Space Brothers - Forgiven 2005
The Age Of Love - The Age Of Love 2004
The Thrillseekers - Synaethesia 2004
Tomonari & Tommy Pi - C Sharp 2005 (the Quest - C Sharp clone)
Yves Deruyter - Born Slippy (Underworold - Born Slippy clone)


Me oh my what a friggin list!!


Posted by varun on Mar-17-2005 09:21:

Re: "200X"/"classic" Updates...

quote:
Originally posted by sandstorm03
Airwave - Save Me (Dynni / Whiteroom remixes)
Armin - Blue Fear 2005
ALy & Fila - Eyes Of Horus (Solid Globe Remix)
Cosmic Gate Featuring Jan Johnston - I Feel Wonderful
Chicane Featuring Bryan Adams - Dont Give Up 2004
Dave 202 Meets Dumonde - Singularity 2005 (Brainchild - Symetry C clone)
Delerium - Silence 2005 (Above & beyond / filterheadz)
Filo & Peri - Juicy 2004
Firewall - Sincere 2005
Gerry Cueto - messages
Hemstock & Jennings - Crimson Soil 2004
Hydra - Affinity 2005
Jose Amnesia - The Eternal
LSG - Netherworld 2005
Matt Darey Pres Li Kwan - Point Zero 2004
Mike Koglin - The Silence 2005
Moogwai - Viola 2005
Motorcycle - As The Rush Comes (Nick Thompson 2005 Intro Mix)
Nu-NRG - Dreamland 2005
Paul Van Dyk - For An Angel (Marc Van Linden Remix)
Plastic Boy - Twixt 2004
Pulp Victim - The World 2004
Pulser - Cloudwalking 2005
Randy Katana - Fancy Fair 2005
Randy Katana - In Silence
Ron Hagen & Pascal M - On Stream
SOUTHSIDE SPINNERS - LUVSTRUCK 2005
Signum - First Strike 2004
Signum - Second Wave 2004
Solar Stone - Seven Cities (Armin Van Buuren Breakbeat Remix)
Solarstone Presents Elizabeth Fields - Speak In Sympathy 2004
Solar Stone vs Sirocco - Destination/Release
Space Brothers - Forgiven 2005
Sunblind - Believe
The Age Of Love - The Age Of Love 2004
The Thrillseekers - Synaethesia 2004
Tomonari & Tommy Pi - C Sharp 2005 (the Quest - C Sharp clone)
Yves Deruyter - Born Slippy (Underworold - Born Slippy clone)

not funny any more


Most of them are cash-ins except for a select few.
Making remakes is a tricky thing. Sometimes they work for the better as technology as has given us so much since 1999-2000.The gap between 99-05 has made way for fresher,more innovative and technically advanced producing techniques which often can be used EFFECTIVELY for a task like this. Unfortunately, this is so very rare.


Posted by Camwin on Mar-17-2005 10:01:

They better keep the base line of the original "Destination" and that brilliant guitar in "Release".
They are to great to be rmxed, i deperately hope that the duties are fulfilled with these tunes, or they are in for a bumpy ride!!!!!


Posted by Simon00 on Mar-17-2005 10:13:

Dreamland 2005, yeah like that is really needed, the Original is just amazing and never needed anybody fucking with it.

Although i do admit to liking

Signum - First Strike 2004
LSG - Netherworld 2005 esp Oliver Prime/Joof Remix

We must be due another version of Energy 52 sometime this year.....


Posted by sandstorm03 on Mar-17-2005 12:28:

quote:
Originally posted by Simon00
Dreamland 2005, yeah like that is really needed, the Original is just amazing and never needed anybody fucking with it.

Although i do admit to liking

Signum - First Strike 2004
LSG - Netherworld 2005 esp Oliver Prime/Joof Remix

We must be due another version of Energy 52 sometime this year.....


i bought it just so i could have netherworld but whats the point of it? The mixes still do not bring anythnig different


Posted by Phortastic on Mar-17-2005 12:46:

yeah all these remakes are pathetic.
Only proves how shit trance is these days. I hope some trance producers read this and stop this shit asap. Go make something original or dont make anything at all. And if you do make a remake once in a while make it decent so it adds something to the original


Posted by Mechgear on Mar-17-2005 13:21:

quote:
Originally posted by sandstorm03
alright, ill give you that. But why not try to do something original, i know thats hard to ask these days. But if i were listning to a set, and the first thing i heard comming in was ATRC, you could bet that I wouldn't listen much more. You seem like a good producer, i enjoy spice fire, it has simularities to flaming june which i like. You should do something different. If you like ATRC enough to remix it, then fine, but don't do it just because its a popular track that everyone knows.


i have done another 4 originals that im looking to getting signed at the moment, atrc remix is a lot more proggy and even a bit housey but still with a nice trancey element in the break, so its basically more my style, i wont confess to thinking its as good as avb's universal religion mix but it sits quit well in a more proggy set.
on the point of remixing because its popular i quite agree you shouldnt remix something just because of its popularity, although if you like the track then that to me is a good enough reason to do it but of course you need to do something different with it than the original version which a lot producers dont seem to be doing with 200x mixes of tunes. They are more like a 200x updates than remixs which is a shame because id like to hear remixes which scream out the producers own style over the tunes i love!

anyways thats my 2 pence worth


Posted by sandstorm03 on Mar-17-2005 14:21:

quote:
Originally posted by Mechgear
i have done another 4 originals that im looking to getting signed at the moment, atrc remix is a lot more proggy and even a bit housey but still with a nice trancey element in the break, so its basically more my style, i wont confess to thinking its as good as avb's universal religion mix but it sits quit well in a more proggy set.
on the point of remixing because its popular i quite agree you shouldnt remix something just because of its popularity, although if you like the track then that to me is a good enough reason to do it but of course you need to do something different with it than the original version which a lot producers dont seem to be doing with 200x mixes of tunes. They are more like a 200x updates than remixs which is a shame because id like to hear remixes which scream out the producers own style over the tunes i love!

anyways thats my 2 pence worth


well yea, if somone would actually knife up some of these, kinda like katana did with in silence, some could be really neat. But 99% of the time the only difference is that they either change the intro, till the first breakdown, and leave the main melody the same, or they just throw some extra synths and fx over the original.

A good example, of a nice remix could be Perry's mix of ATRC.

but this goes for all remixes, 95% of them blow. That is why it is better to see a different track on a B-side, rather then some stupid remix no one will ever play.

that all in mind, the best remix i recently heard is the Nicholas Bennison mix of Nightoperator... great remix.


Posted by sandstorm03 on Mar-17-2005 14:26:

i think it would be cool if someone would go back and make some crappy tracks good instead of concentrating on the classics.


Posted by Cloud on Mar-17-2005 15:43:

netherworld 2005 is a nice tune anyway...


Posted by Az on Mar-17-2005 15:49:

aphex twin - windowlicker (Kriece remix)


Posted by sandstorm03 on Mar-17-2005 16:04:

quote:
Originally posted by Dj_GtR
netherworld 2005 is a nice tune anyway...


its still the same track...


Posted by tc-fan on Mar-17-2005 16:32:

u all could bitch on forever about remakes....but no matter what it will happen eventually.....i myself have no problem with remakes...sometimes its good, sometimes is crap....hear 1st then judge it......


Posted by sandstorm03 on Mar-17-2005 16:40:

quote:
Originally posted by tc-fan
u all could bitch on forever about remakes....but no matter what it will happen eventually.....i myself have no problem with remakes...sometimes its good, sometimes is crap....hear 1st then judge it......



, must be an armin fan?


Posted by tc-fan on Mar-17-2005 16:47:

quote:
Originally posted by sandstorm03
, must be an armin fan?


no...the reason is i like updates...as long as is fresh and creative...i know alot of times it dont beat the original version..


Posted by sandstorm03 on Mar-17-2005 16:51:

quote:
Originally posted by tc-fan
no...the reason is i like updates...as long as is fresh and creative...i know alot of times it dont beat the original version..


can you name any that are better/different then/from the original?


Posted by tc-fan on Mar-17-2005 17:04:

ok i will....

ridgewalkers ft el - find [andy moor mix]..better than original
the thrillseekers - synaesthesia 2005 [bobina megadrive mix]...better then alot of updates they have done...
solar stone - seven cities [armin mix]..a nice alternative to original
neo & farina - binary refined [binary finary 2002]..a nice update...


Posted by Az on Mar-17-2005 17:07:

quote:
Originally posted by tc-fan
ok i will....

ridgewalkers ft el - find [andy moor mix]..better than original
.

dear god


Posted by skip on Mar-17-2005 17:10:

quote:
Originally posted by tc-fan
ok i will....

ridgewalkers ft el - find [andy moor mix]..better than original
the thrillseekers - synaesthesia 2005 [bobina megadrive mix]...better then alot of updates they have done...
solar stone - seven cities [armin mix]..a nice alternative to original
neo & farina - binary refined [binary finary 2002]..a nice update...



ridgewalkers - not an update afaik.
synaesthesia - please, how on earth does this make the original better?
7 cities (armin remix) - you gotta be fucking kidding me
binary refined - now i know you couldn't have been serious.



Posted by tc-fan on Mar-17-2005 17:15:

quote:
Originally posted by skip
ridgewalkers - no an update afaik.
synaesthesia - please, how on earth does this make the original better?
7 cities (armin remix) - you gotta be fucking kidding me
binary refined - now i know you couldn't have been serious.




well bro i like them...u all are a bunch of picky ass whores....you expect fucking perfection.....or are all turn proggy...


Posted by tc-fan on Mar-17-2005 17:16:

quote:
Originally posted by skip
synaesthesia - please, how on earth does this make the original better?




i didnt say its better than original....read carefully...ffs...


Posted by sandstorm03 on Mar-17-2005 17:17:

quote:
Originally posted by tc-fan
i didnt say its better than original....read carefully...ffs...


most are even on the orig vinyl, how are they updates?


Posted by tc-fan on Mar-17-2005 17:18:

quote:
Originally posted by sandstorm03
most are even on the orig vinyl, how are they updates?


i am talking about 2004 updates like pulser, ferry etc...how the hell where they with originals?

astral projection - mahadeva [john 00 fleming mix]..another amazing update..
astral projection - mahadeva [supakane mix]..also good update..
hemstock & jennings - rendezvous...another nice update..


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