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Originally posted by Jimmy D 5-htp and xanax did me good after taking 5 red ferrari's at last years Ultra. I think this year im going to stay clear of the rolls cause i barely remember anything from last years Ultra and i dont want that to happen again.

We were all talking about RECOVERY. NOT YOUR DRUG USE.

Don't be a douche.

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Originally posted by ATL_Trancer why do you say this?? not good? what if you're planning on rolling day after day, still not a good idea to take some in between??

Everybody I know who's tried it, says it just dilutes the peak. If you're planning on rolling day after day, I don't think it's going to work on the second day anyway. My friend tried that on a 36-hour New Years marathon, and he said the second night just made him sketchy and sick.

5-htp is a supplement, not a magic recovery drug. It will not enable you to fully recover in one single day. Your body needs time, plain and simple - you can take supplements to alleviate your sketchiness the next day, but your brain chemistry really needs about 1 month to get back to normal, or at least a good week to get back to functional levels. Of course I know people aren't going to wait a week for recovery at WMC, but try to give it at least a few days!

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Originally posted by The Peach omg, some of you missed your calling in life as pharmacists! you crackies! j/k. anyway, i get pretty anxious afterwards. any suggestions?

A lot of my info came from a doctor and a biology grad student. FYI, I'm not by any means a frequent user, but all it takes is a little research and maybe a few mistakes.

When you say "afterwards", are you referring to immediately after the comedown or the next day? If it's a good few hours later then stress caplets (or just plain vitamin B complex, look for the big-ass B-50 pills) with a good helping of 5-htp will do nicely. If it's immediately after, then unless you want to go the cig/spliff/other drugs route, you're S-O-L.

I've never really had harsh comedowns, but taking half a pill about 90 minutes after the first one usually makes that comedown more gradual... that's good if your anxiety is a reaction to the pill, bad if it's psychological.

(Don't hurt me DawnTreader, I know that's not directly related to recovery but how you manage your night can have a major effect on how easy it is to recover! )

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Originally posted by DawnTreader We were all talking about RECOVERY. NOT YOUR DRUG USE. Don't be a douche.

All i see is posts about dropping. I was just saying what worked for me last year.

That is all.....

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Originally posted by DigiNut A lot of my info came from a doctor and a biology grad student. FYI, I'm not by any means a frequent user, but all it takes is a little research and maybe a few mistakes. When you say "afterwards", are you referring to immediately after the comedown or the next day? If it's a good few hours later then stress caplets (or just plain vitamin B complex, look for the big-ass B-50 pills) with a good helping of 5-htp will do nicely. If it's immediately after, then unless you want to go the cig/spliff/other drugs route, you're S-O-L. I've never really had harsh comedowns, but taking half a pill about 90 minutes after the first one usually makes that comedown more gradual... that's good if your anxiety is a reaction to the pill, bad if it's psychological. (Don't hurt me DawnTreader, I know that's not directly related to recovery but how you manage your night can have a major effect on how easy it is to recover! )

ty for the info. only done it twice. first time, felt anxious as hell afterwards. second time i felt only slightly anxious. this could have to do with the fact that i take paxil daily for anxiety. anyway, i dont like it as much as the good ole green stuff and a few dirty martinis, so i'm fine to just not do it and save some brain cells for grad school. the thought of having to get on a plane with that anxious feeling is enough to make me say no also.

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Originally posted by DigiNut 11. Remember, the only true recovery is sleep. Any benefits you get from these other substances are only temporary. So keep in mind - the harder you party, the easier it will be to sleep afterwards.

Best. Advice. Ever

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Originally posted by The Peach ty for the info. only done it twice. first time, felt anxious as hell afterwards. second time i felt only slightly anxious. this could have to do with the fact that i take paxil daily for anxiety. anyway, i dont like it as much as the good ole green stuff and a few dirty martinis, so i'm fine to just not do it and save some brain cells for grad school. the thought of having to get on a plane with that anxious feeling is enough to make me say no also.

It almost definitely has to do with the fact that you take Paxil. SSRIs completely change the character of a roll.

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Originally posted by DigiNut SSRIs completely change the character of a roll.

what are some of the changes?

great info.... taking notes

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Originally posted by Pauli55 great info.... taking notes

same here!!! thanx for all the responses.

how do you spell recovery?

X A N A X!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

AIRBORNE. Those dissolvable tablets some teacher invented, because she kept getting sick from her students. That shit knocks down an oncoming cold dead in its tracks. You feel like a million, after taking it. It has something like a billion percent of everything. I'm stocking up on those to wipe out my hangovers.

don't take it in the first place, its not even worth it...you can party/have fun all nite without a comedown if you dont roll...and you'll actually remember it...

if you're going to take substances at least take acid or some kind of psychedelic that provides some kind of meaningful/learning experience

ecstasy = garbage imo...

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Originally posted by djhydra don't take it in the first place, its not even worth it...you can party/have fun all nite without a comedown if you dont roll...and you'll actually remember it... if you're going to take substances at least take acid or some kind of psychedelic that provides some kind of meaningful/learning experience ecstasy = garbage imo...

Everyone is entitled to their own opinions and slanted views of things.



Who says that you don't remember nights w/pills?

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Originally posted by UWM Everyone is entitled to their own opinions and slanted views of things. Who says that you don't remember nights w/pills?

yeah...i think people remember nights when on pills more so than alcohol!

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Originally posted by rounder19 how do you spell recovery? X A N A X!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

can you get me some?

peach, I also take meds for anxiety... i take zoloft and I've found that zoloft actually decreases my roll (serotonin inhibitors)... I just dont take it when i roll


and after the roll some 5-htp morning, afternoon and night... and then back to the zoloft

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Originally posted by djhydra if you're going to take substances at least take acid or some kind of psychedelic that provides some kind of meaningful/learning experience ecstasy = garbage imo...

'cid... Haven't seen that in YEARS up here

But Thanx to those who posted info on how to recover Definitely will be putting it to use!

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Originally posted by ambs peach, I also take meds for anxiety... i take zoloft and I've found that zoloft actually decreases my roll (serotonin inhibitors)... I just dont take it when i roll and after the roll some 5-htp morning, afternoon and night... and then back to the zoloft

thanks for the info ambs! where do you get this 5-htp stuff? herbal supplement section of a drugstore?

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Originally posted by The Peach thanks for the info ambs! where do you get this 5-htp stuff? herbal supplement section of a drugstore?

yep, cvs or whereever will sell it


although im bringin a bottle of like 50, so if you don't have time to get any, i suppossssssssssse i could let you bum some of mine

got plenty of magnesium, vitamin c, and multi-vitamins too, so hopefully my travelling little pharmacy will keep us in good shape

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Originally posted by ATL_Trancer yep, cvs or whereever will sell it although im bringin a bottle of like 50, so if you don't have time to get any, i suppossssssssssse i could let you bum some of mine got plenty of magnesium, vitamin c, and multi-vitamins too, so hopefully my travelling little pharmacy will keep us in good shape

Gavin the street pharmacist

soo....i have read different things...what is the best dosage for that 5HTP stuff? i got some too...for uh, energy...

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Originally posted by trancEyes22 soo....i have read different things...what is the best dosage for that 5HTP stuff? i got some too...for uh, energy...

Yea, i've never even heard of this until reading this.. But it looks good. Any recommendations for a 'first time user' of the 5htp that is...

i usually get my supply of 5-htp from GNC. They have the better brands there put its a bit more pricey.

You can get 5-HTP at any vitamin/nutrition store. Hey, I've even bought it at Walgreens up here in Chicago. I've been taking 50 mg 2 times a day for the last few days. From what I've learned in the past is to take 100 mg before you go out with about 500 mg of magnesium and vitamin c. The morning after take the vitamin c, HTP and multivitamins. It seems to help me at least.

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