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Re: Re: WMV Event Closed down
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| Originally posted by TranCyn ??? really??? we showed p there around 3 and stayed until 6, the time is was scheduled to end. we saw G&D and steve porter and a few others.... funny you say it was cancelled... it sure seems as though it wasnt to me! |
*crack* Is that you're son...? Because Chris, you just got owned, son.
Definitely an idea to rent a car, if possible, or hitch rides off Greg or me, next year. I really don't know what you mean about the cops... there's way too many way dumber people doing way dumber shee ott to find trouble with emm if you just attempt to keep yourself ½ together... I've seen and gotten away with too much stupid shit on the roads down there to worry, who knows though? That's just me. 
Miami is almost not part of the United States, the only connection that's left is Tax money and voting pricincts... you'd be surprised how much our government hates our "type" of music... One reason to sum up why WMC is here: Because its Miami.
I say keep it in Miami where it has been for the past 20 years.
I don't think any other place will be better IMO.
reasons:
A. weather
B. chicks
C. guys
C. BEACHES (because you need stuff to do in the day time)
D. Venues (may not be the best but it sure as hell beats any other states)
E. the scene is bigger here than in other states (many states don't even know wtf EDM is)
everywhere you go you're always going to have a-holes complaining and shutting down parties...
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| Originally posted by PvDOBseSSioN *urgh* cancun is for gweedos, o yeah lets bring MTV into it and ruin everything, great idea (no offense to you) |
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| Originally posted by el.maestro None taken. By the way, I'm from New Jersey. So I know a few things about guidos (Or as I call them.. Chest-Shaving Sissy Boys). |
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| Originally posted by jasin keep it in miami.. NUMBER 1 REASON sooo many hot chicks a teh beach!!  |
Re: Re: WMV Event Closed down
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| Originally posted by TranCyn ??? really??? we showed p there around 3 and stayed until 6, the time is was scheduled to end. we saw G&D and steve porter and a few others.... funny you say it was cancelled... it sure seems as though it wasnt to me! |
Re: Re: Re: WMV Event Closed down
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| Originally posted by DrDave Damn Cynthia!! *Crack* *crack* Is that you're son...? Because Chris, you just got owned, son. |
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| Originally posted by FallingMoon I say keep it in Miami where it has been for the past 20 years. I don't think any other place will be better IMO. reasons: A. weather B. chicks C. guys C. BEACHES (because you need stuff to do in the day time) D. Venues (may not be the best but it sure as hell beats any other states) E. the scene is bigger here than in other states (many states don't even know wtf EDM is) |
Well being from NJ/NY for us NYTA's there's nothing better then knowing that in the middle of March we are gonna shovel out of the snow and cold and head to the warm weather, beaches, and be able to get our fill of kick ass beats. I say keep it in Miami.....in reality it isn't that bad. NYC....water $10 a bottle, drinks forget it, and cabs hold on for dear life, I think everyone just needs to look at the whole picture, there's no Nikki Beach in vegas and WAY to many tourists would want to pop there heads in to the clubs to see what's going on. IMO
As much as I hate the outrageous prices, the overcrowded venues, and the asshole cabdrivers, I will be saving my money for next years WMC whether it's in Miami or not. One thing I wont be doing is going to Space and depending on the lineup probably wont be heading back to Nikki Beach either. Bought tix to Space for two nights out of the week and never stayed for either show, they can ass rape someone else in my place next year. I had a great time without going there. They turned the music down at Nikki Beach in the mid to late afternoon. I can listen to it that loud in my hotel room. There is a lot of things that could change about WMC like buisness owners learning the difference between buisness and theft. There should be a law limited the percentage of mark up on services and good, just like the law for scalping tickets to concerts and sporting events. 11+ for a sorry ass mixed drink??? thats sucks. But until enough are willing find a way and make it work.....guess I'll see yall next year. It's the best thing we have going in the US. I still had a great time, just could be a lot better.
I agree.. but your right.. we'll be there next year.. and probably every year after until they find a new town. maybe Vegas.. hey they rip people off every day, but at least they are up front about it. plus we could get swished in the casino for free.
Re: Re: Re: WMV Event Closed down
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| Originally posted by DrDave Damn Cynthia!! *Crack* *crack* Is that you're son...? Because Chris, you just got owned, son. Mario!! How are supposed to swallow Your One-A-Day's without a beer, bro?! Or to wash the booger drips from your bad allergies down your thoat? I like that about the Vegas, it's a fuc: dup city like MIA, but 24 hr drinks is definitiely tight. I dunno about the Vegas vibe though; every time I go there, it really has me creeped by the time I leave. Beyond everything else you can comepare around the two cities, only one city has Space, Spin, and Crobar in it. I'll be down with it being there if Space Goes On Tour© there. LeAnn, I'm not racist, but I do notice what you're talking about with the taxi drivers... they're pure idiocracy and ignorance in a yellow hazard. Fresh off the boat, I guess... Definitely an idea to rent a car, if possible, or hitch rides off Greg or me, next year. I really don't know what you mean about the cops... there's way too many way dumber people doing way dumber shee ott to find trouble with emm if you just attempt to keep yourself ½ together... I've seen and gotten away with too much stupid shit on the roads down there to worry, who knows though? That's just me. Miami is almost not part of the United States, the only connection that's left is Tax money and voting pricincts... you'd be surprised how much our government hates our "type" of music... One reason to sum up why WMC is here: Because its Miami. |
Re: Re: Re: Re: WMV Event Closed down
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| Originally posted by chrismack Nope. Seems some people were too cracked out to know which day of the week it was. Such a shame, all those brain cells just going to waste. |
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| Originally posted by phuzzyfish12 Well being from NJ/NY for us NYTA's there's nothing better then knowing that in the middle of March we are gonna shovel out of the snow and cold and head to the warm weather, beaches, and be able to get our fill of kick ass beats. I say keep it in Miami.....in reality it isn't that bad. NYC....water $10 a bottle, drinks forget it, and cabs hold on for dear life, I think everyone just needs to look at the whole picture, there's no Nikki Beach in vegas and WAY to many tourists would want to pop there heads in to the clubs to see what's going on. IMO |
A couple things:
First: I love Miami. I love the beach. I love the bars. I am not suggesting that Miami as a party destination needs to be disrespected.
However, I fly into Miami to attend WMC. I register as a delegate and attend what is intended to be an industry event. The whole purpose of this is to showcase EDM to people who make, produce and otherwise earn their loving from the scene.
When these showcases are shut down by authorities who don't seem to care about the millions of $ and prestige it brings in, That affects me personally - and the reason why I attend the event (and quite frankly why the event occurs at all.)
I understand that some people are "tourists" who just want to party.. I think that's great and probably makes for a better week. But, if we lose the original goal, fewer parties will take place, the industry guys and their money will slowly stop coming, and by necessity, it will move somewhere else - either by choice or circumstance.
Miami is great, but if they can't or won't stand up for the conference side of WMC - and the reason why they are gettign this windfall of tourist bucks, then it's time to move.
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| Originally posted by phuzzyfish12 Well being from NJ/NY for us NYTA's there's nothing better then knowing that in the middle of March we are gonna shovel out of the snow and cold and head to the warm weather, beaches, and be able to get our fill of kick ass beats. I say keep it in Miami.....in reality it isn't that bad. NYC....water $10 a bottle, drinks forget it, and cabs hold on for dear life, I think everyone just needs to look at the whole picture, there's no Nikki Beach in vegas and WAY to many tourists would want to pop there heads in to the clubs to see what's going on. IMO |
esp. for Nikki Beach
your right .. we'll be back.. but if they moved it to vegas.. we'd be there.. or wherever they moved it.. i think they should let the city of miami decide... give them an ultimatum.. allow the parties during that week. or we will take our 60,000+ tourists to the city of our choice. if miami says no.. then we go
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| Originally posted by Vegas your right .. we'll be back.. but if they moved it to vegas.. we'd be there.. or wherever they moved it.. i think they should let the city of miami decide... give them an ultimatum.. allow the parties during that week. or we will take our 60,000+ tourists to the city of our choice. if miami says no.. then we go |
IMO, WMC/Ultra was bigger and better this year than ever before. People love coming to Miami for the conference. And the Wyndham? WMC owns the hotel that week. The price wasn’t bad considering what other hotels charge.
The problem with people complaining was a bit out of hand though. The RA pool party got shut down during the day. Now that’s going a bit far considering the law allows noise until 11 PM. I wonder if there was something else behind that…
Conspiracy theories aside, in spite of the problems, the conference went on and will continue to do so in the years to come.
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| Originally posted by Vegas your right .. we'll be back.. but if they moved it to vegas.. we'd be there.. or wherever they moved it.. i think they should let the city of miami decide... give them an ultimatum.. allow the parties during that week. or we will take our 60,000+ tourists to the city of our choice. if miami says no.. then we go |
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| Originally posted by GloryHole Definitely couldn't agree more, although I do like Miami - it's just not friendly to the WMC scene. I came down here yesterday for the weekend and to enjoy being with friends who were attending the conference but I've never seen such shoddy reception for people who've planned for this a long time and have $$ to spend. I'm thinking Atlanta or NYC for a new venue. Sure beats the fascist police state atmosphere you get here. |
, lots of places to party, easy to get to from many places in USA and world. Esp. for Europeans that come over, it is still too early for Meditranian Summer... It is also close to Europe and South America. Relatively short flights from most EDM spots around the world. You have to remember that huge % of people come from Europe and even larger % of industry people come from there.
Next year, Ultra is gonna be 170 DJ's, half hour sets, just not the same anymore, just have the parties and thats good
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| Originally posted by mdamon7278 Next year, Ultra is gonna be 170 DJ's, half hour sets, just not the same anymore, just have the parties and thats good |
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| Originally posted by tatgirl says who?? why in their right minds would they even book 1/2 hour sets (when they're already short enought) for DJ's they're shelling shitloads of money out for, only to squeeze in more acts? that's just not logical. |
1 1/2 sets are just not good enough, 2 1/2 are better, remember Ultra 2003, the last good one, tiesto, underworld and more, rocked it, the more u have the more of a overkill it is
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