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Originally posted by MarkT LOL thank you...I didn't want to be the one to say that, hahahahaha couldn't pay me to go to that event...too much show, not enough go.

Agree about the show aspect...I mean, I love hot chicks regardless, but for me it was all about the power under the hood. I didn't care much about the looks of the car (no paint, no skirts, no rims). It was all about engine and handling. Wider rims with wider tires would've come eventually, though.

On the FI vs. NA issue, you don't have the wear-and-tear on your engine by going NA AT FIRST, rather than jumping straight to FI. My goal was always to get to Turbo eventually, after the cam gears, ECM, etc. But I wanted to make the car at its peak possible potential before I threw the SMACK down.

I think the two complement each other rather than one vs. the other. And for that reason, you have to change the smaller parts FIRST, logically.

I was able to take my car over 400 hp and 400 ft/lb without any FI.

Unless I'm running a wee 4-banger or small V6, I'm not touching FI.

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Originally posted by rabbitjoker I was able to take my car over 400 hp and 400 ft/lb without any FI. Unless I'm running a wee 4-banger or small V6, I'm not touching FI.

Well of course. V8s should be left naturally aspirated.

Except in this case.



Twin-turbocharged AND supercharged Holden 304 V8 in a Holden LJ Torana.

Pure awesomeness, and I think we can all agree on this.

How do you post JPGs?

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Originally posted by VERTiG0 Well of course. V8s should be left naturally aspirated. Except in this case. Twin-turbocharged AND supercharged Holden 304 V8 in a Holden LJ Torana. Pure awesomeness, and I think we can all agree on this.

That engine is so sexy with its BREASTS...

Use the IMG button to post the URL of the image.

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Originally posted by rabbitjoker Use the IMG button to post the URL of the image.

How do I get the URL of something on my harddrive?

here is a free host for you.

www.**************

(just try to be easy on the size )

Since I'm here....might as well throw up a few shots of my car.








it's going to have another nice little item under the hood this year...tired of being slow-ish

meh...it's all good

http://www.streetsourcemag.com/Profile.aspx?Profileid=32750

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Originally posted by Skuce http://www.streetsourcemag.com/Prof...Profileid=32750

{edit} Nevermind, works now.


Oh god no. I'm sorry, but, uh, that is absolutely ridiculous... It's... an Escort. You live in KW, right?

I mean, it's certainly different, but why put money into such a car?

^^^lol...I was waiting for that

cause I got it for $400 as a wreck.

and plus...why not put some money into a car that NO-ONE ever does?

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Originally posted by Skuce ^^^lol...I was waiting for that

I've Ricecopped your car before



Yes, I have a physical booklet of these tickets that I fill out whenever I feel the need

^^ lol..nice try with the ticket there (btw...isn't that Older than the Internet? lol)

edit* and how many of those can you check off anyways? just curious now

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Originally posted by Skuce ^^ lol..nice try with the ticket there (btw...isn't that Older than the Internet? lol)

Yes, I've had my ticket book for about 3 years now, since they originally went on sale. I've been through about half of it (about 50 tickets).

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Originally posted by Skuce ^^^lol...I was waiting for that cause I got it for $400 as a wreck. and plus...why not put some money into a car that NO-ONE ever does?

Wow, turning a $400 lemon into THAT is a pretty good job!!! Impressive! Anyway, here go mine: (and thanks for the advice, Skuce!)

Smokey Cannon...
http://us.f1.yahoofs.com/bc/c570e8b7_m418b33a6/bc/civic/smokey+cannon.jpg?BCfv3SCBsvjyhmsM

Sparco Pedals...
http://us.f1.yahoofs.com/bc/c570e8b7_m418b33a6/bc/civic/sparco.jpg?BCfv3SCBKZP4WWQ0

Money shot...the flag, by the way, is for my web group of Ferrari F1 fans (actually it's the official manufacturer's fan site: www.ferrariworld.com) pretty good perks, like the flag! And the driver's a friend, not me!
http://us.f1.yahoofs.com/bc/c570e8b7_m418b33a6/bc/civic/side+shot.jpg?BCfv3SCBsk9UQZB.

Corner pose with the TANABE in all its glory...
http://us.f1.yahoofs.com/bc/c570e8b7_m418b33a6/bc/civic/pose.jpg?BCfv3SCBqEWqJFWa

Action shot...
http://us.f1.yahoofs.com/bc/c570e8b7_m418b33a6/bc/civic/action.jpg?BCfv3SCBlZWgsQSh

And full-frontal!
http://us.f1.yahoofs.com/bc/c570e8b7_m418b33a6/bc/civic/front.jpg?BCfv3SCBC0WMwDBk

How do you get the images to actually show up in the post? Man, I'm such a rookie with this!!! I don't have pictures of the engine; only videos. I made a massive video with music and all: 550 MB...will have to show y'all some day.

G'night,
Fahad

Yahoo is terrible for hotlinking pics...they don't like it when you do that. Plus I think you have those linked to your personal folder...not the one that everyone can see.

Try a couple on Image Shack....I know they have zero probs with you hotlinking from them

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Originally posted by fayraree Agree about the show aspect...I mean, I love hot chicks regardless, but for me it was all about the power under the hood. I didn't care much about the looks of the car (no paint, no skirts, no rims). It was all about engine and handling. Wider rims with wider tires would've come eventually, though. On the FI vs. NA issue, you don't have the wear-and-tear on your engine by going NA AT FIRST, rather than jumping straight to FI. My goal was always to get to Turbo eventually, after the cam gears, ECM, etc. But I wanted to make the car at its peak possible potential before I threw the SMACK down. I think the two complement each other rather than one vs. the other. And for that reason, you have to change the smaller parts FIRST, logically.

While the two CAN complement each other, it's not a given. For example if you're going to slap a turbo onto your car, but you've enlarged the exhaust pipes all the way through, you might not develop enough back pressure to get decent response from the turbo. Also, things that change the timing and compression of the engine can adversely affect turbo performance. Most imports run notoriously high compression ratios, ie Hondas, which is not necessarily conducive to cramming larger amounts of air through. If you've been tweaking your car of NA performance, many of the mods may actually be counter productive to FI performance. In theory, for the best NA performance, you want the highest compression you can reasonably maintain within your engine, and run a somewhat lean fuel mixture to optimize the power and combustion. Those statements aren't necessarily what a FI tuned car should be optimized to run under.

I think while your theory is sound, in practice, it's always better to have both long term and short term plans for any project and understand that all components will eventually have to work together. If the general idea is to one day have a turbo in your car, the parts and build leading up to that should be complementary to that goal, otherwise you may have to backtrack and replace several if not many components you've already put in.

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Originally posted by Tranceplanted While the two CAN complement each other, it's not a given. For example if you're going to slap a turbo onto your car, but you've enlarged the exhaust pipes all the way through, you might not develop enough back pressure to get decent response from the turbo. Also, things that change the timing and compression of the engine can adversely affect turbo performance. Most imports run notoriously high compression ratios, ie Hondas, which is not necessarily conducive to cramming larger amounts of air through. If you've been tweaking your car of NA performance, many of the mods may actually be counter productive to FI performance. In theory, for the best NA performance, you want the highest compression you can reasonably maintain within your engine, and run a somewhat lean fuel mixture to optimize the power and combustion. Those statements aren't necessarily what a FI tuned car should be optimized to run under. I think while your theory is sound, in practice, it's always better to have both long term and short term plans for any project and understand that all components will eventually have to work together. If the general idea is to one day have a turbo in your car, the parts and build leading up to that should be complementary to that goal, otherwise you may have to backtrack and replace several if not many components you've already put in.

Agreed 100% I know nothing about cars except for what the techies at Formula Honda feed me. And we had a plan for my car so I was trusting that they knew what they were doing, with the long term in mind (especially after fitting the owner's S2000 with a Comptech blower). I guess we can never find out...except on my current PRELUDE!!!! I will be continuing that story in the next few YEARS...

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Originally posted by Skuce Since I'm here....might as well throw up a few shots of my car. it's going to have another nice little item under the hood this year...tired of being slow-ish meh...it's all good http://www.streetsourcemag.com/Prof...Profileid=32750

I really don't like off-center plates...but otherwise I think it's well done. *thumbsup*

that project would be soooooo not my style...but I love the super-clean look...shaving the handles looks terrible on some cars, but fits in well here...I wouldn't call that riced up at all...I think Vertigo is just being a bitch

Aren't those Escort GT wheels (minus the colour)? How can that be called rice...no dumb tint, no over-the-top bodykit, no lame APC tails, 18" bling wheels, etc...and he didn't cheap out on the drop with just springs...I like it.

I hope that "nice little item under the hood..." means FI though...assuming some decent rubber...then it would truly be badass

considered a 16" wheel with fat 225 tires? (if 225 could fit under there , that is)

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Originally posted by Skuce Yahoo is terrible for hotlinking pics...they don't like it when you do that. Plus I think you have those linked to your personal folder...not the one that everyone can see. Try a couple on Image Shack....I know they have zero probs with you hotlinking from them

Thanks for the advice!! Here's a starter for my new love...as soon as it gets warmer and after the first waxing of the summer there'll be more pictures to come...

May I introduce you to my 100% stock 1997 Prelude, gentlemen...

By the way, were you guys able to see my Civic? Or should I also try uploading those pics to the free server?

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Originally posted by Tranceplanted For example if you're going to slap a turbo onto your car, but you've enlarged the exhaust pipes all the way through, you might not develop enough back pressure to get decent response from the turbo.

Uh, you want as little backpressure as possible with a turbocharged car. You want that exhaust OUT, and if theres a lot of backpressure you're going to get reversion, which causes the engines' internals to heat up far more than they would normally... This can lead to detonation, which can potentially destroy your engine


PS: MarkT: You're kidding about the Escort not being riced up... Right?

the thing i dont understand about "tuners" is why they spend so much useless money on parts and mods taht dont really affect their performance. i have a buddy who just dropped a couple hundred bucks on a new steerign wheel and shift knob just cause it says momo on it???

i must say tho, shaving the door handles on an escort..... new defenition of class. the drop was nicely done. i want to drop the truck as well but im not going to drop the fram im just going to do a body drop i think, cause i still want the clearance underneath for the drivetrain components etc. my current commuter car (89 mazda mx-6 turbo) has a nice body drop to it, my front struts are fucked and im too broke right now to replace them so the front end has a nice dip to it, and it looks like i have a body kit in the rear since my bumper is held on with a couple long strips of duct tape. o and my custom badges on the trunk lid help out as well... police interceptor badge and mustang cobra badge (courtesy of ford motor company), these strike fear into the heart of the other streetracers when they go up against my ss shitbox.


cant wait to get home and get started on that truck tho

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Originally posted by VERTiG0 Uh, you want as little backpressure as possible with a turbocharged car. You want that exhaust OUT, and if theres a lot of backpressure you're going to get reversion, which causes the engines' internals to heat up far more than they would normally... This can lead to detonation, which can potentially destroy your engine PS: MarkT: You're kidding about the Escort not being riced up... Right?

Not entirely true. With very little back pressure, especially with a larger turbo housing, it would take a long time for your turbo to spool tothe proper rpm, and hence you would suffer turbo lag. Back pressure is important for a turbo, and as for the overheating issue, the blow off valve is designed to release the excess pressure that the turbo cannot utilize.

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