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Originally posted by samhouse How can you call the music these people play Progressive House....

when people dont know their genres right or arent able to distinguish well cos they have the most vague description in their heads, they tend to drop any name they want on it.


however trance HAS taken quite a progressive turn and it could be called progressive trance that big name trance djs are spinnig...not friggin progressive house...

im loving the prog trance warmups everyone seems to be doing, gets me pumped up for the bangers later on.

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Originally posted by Pettiscool im loving the prog trance warmups everyone seems to be doing, gets me pumped up for the bangers later on.

well according to some, its progressive house....get in line f00

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when people dont know their genres right or arent able to distinguish well cos they have the most vague description in their heads, they tend to drop any name they want on it.

Trance for me is "Tenshi". What Armin played was house. You can call it trance, but it is not.

I am not going to argue with DJ El Kay Dee or samhouse what is trance or house. I know trance, and if its changing:

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however trance HAS taken quite a progressive turn and it could be called progressive trance that big name trance djs are spinnig...not friggin progressive house...

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exactly...its still trance Jay...but just evolving and chaanging. The idea behind the music remains the same.

then please do not call it trance when it is house.

I have listened to trance since 1995, and what Armin played was house, not trance. You guys can call it trance, but it was not trance. You guys can tell me things are changing, yet I can go to 20 stations on the net that play trance, that is not played in Toronto (or so I found, unless someone points me in the right direction.)

If you wish I can list the stations as my evidence.

DJ Irish plays trance.
DJ Ben Lost plays trance.

The type of music those DJs play is not played in Toronto.

But please, do not call house, trance.

What is your evidence ?

Armin played progressive house?

Thats like saying Danny Howells plays trance. Ridiculous.

I fucking hate FIRE WIRE. The track is almost as annoying as happy hardcore music(if you call that music). Damn you cosmic gate!

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Originally posted by cyper I fucking hate FIRE WIRE.

oh cmon....we know u love it deep inside...just let it out...cmon cmon

dude maybe if you stopped living in 1995 and realised that music is evolving...you might realise a few things...

Progressive House = Danny howells, John Digweed, Sasha...Even these djs are continuously changing and evolving.

but to answer your question...the Trance YOU are describing is not played to often in toronto. There is nothing WRONG with it...my argument simply lies in the fact that you cannot call what Armin and co. play House...

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...the Trance YOU are describing is not played to often in toronto.

At least you admit that. I will admit that what I call trance may not be what you call trance.

Genres in music branch out, I agree. What some might call "Heavy Metal" other would call "classic rock" or "glam rock".

Enough said. But what I hear on the internet radio that calls itself trance is from Europe and it is more euphoric, epic, not bass, bass, bass like house.

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There is nothing WRONG with it...

I agree either way.

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my argument simply lies in the fact that you cannot call what Armin and co. play House...

He may play trance on internet radio (which I think he 100% does) but not what I heard last Oct.

Rspects to your opinion. I have mine.

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Originally posted by doublemandala He may play trance on internet radio (which I think he 100% does) but not what I heard last Oct.

Meh, so his set sounded a little housey (or techy, which is how it sounded at decadence), that doesnt mean its his "genre."

Its up to the djs to spin what they want. I don't care what ANYONE says, DJ's are there to play whats popular, not what they want. It doesnt have to be a popular track, it just has to be a popular style. If a dj played freaking polka, you think many of us would go see him spin? in toronto, this hard bangin music is what is popular, so expect it to be the majority over here. You want epic? go where its popular.

I apologize if I come off sounding rude, but its just the way things are. A DJ is not going to spin something that isn't popular, because no one is going to go to their next show, their managers wont find them another show to book, and later on, albums wont sell. its not good business.

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Originally posted by DJ El Kay Dee talkin bout big names being drug users..

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Originally posted by Salem ??

http://www.tranceaddict.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&forumid=12&threadid=255266

Despite where trance is going we still get a pretty good mix of it here.
I would like it to be around a bit more often.

In the past while we've gotten one of the most epic uplifting sets I've ever heard from Dumonde, another great one from Blank and Jones and in my opinion the best set I've heard from Armin at Decadence 2, even though it was hard as hell.

Well, technically Armin does play a lot of progressive house. It's a mix of trance and house. And I would hardly call Armin's sets "hard". If you think Armin has dropped hard sets, then I guess hearing someone like DJ Scot Project or Yoji Biomehanika would then be deadly for you.

It is true that music is changing, and many styles are blending, but also keep in mind music comes in cycles. House will soon hit a peak, if not already, then drop off, just as tech trance and prog trance will drop off, and we will see a re-emergence of epic, melodic trance. Although to be honest, I think this remergence is occuring with several German, Dutch, and Japanese producers.

I see what the original poster is saying ... it's that he wants more pure trance, and less prog trance. I too am not a big fan of prog trance. I recommend going to some raves, where you'll hear a lot of classic tunes, and also new tunes. Either that, or wait when a melodic trance DJ shows up. DJ Dean is going to be here in May, so that should be good.

Uplifting trance... What I love the most. I heard that last on Min Tian by Limin Li on ETN at 00:00 on Fridays... Monster epic tunes. When I last listened, it was 3 hours of MONSTROUS HUGE FUCKIN UBERTRANCE tunes. Svenson - Sunlight Theory (Ozone remix) and Nebulus - Destination Paradise. Things like that.


I really hope that Cosmic Gate at Viva delivers. I'm jonesin' for some serious live trance. Not prog, not any of that other shit, pure, unadulterated ubertrance.

COSMIC GATE STYLE.


I sometimes wish trance would go back to 1998-2001... With Gouryella and such. I would KILL to hear Ligaya live on a huge sound system. I'm so young, oh man

I want to hear Gamemaster in a club... is that too much to ask? Oh, and Saltwater.

I think EVERY night should include a 5 song classic-segment

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Originally posted by doublemandala Trance for me is "Tenshi". What Armin played was house. You can call it trance, but it is not. I am not going to argue with DJ El Kay Dee or samhouse what is trance or house. I know trance, and if its changing: then please do not call it trance when it is house. I have listened to trance since 1995, and what Armin played was house, not trance. You guys can call it trance, but it was not trance. You guys can tell me things are changing, yet I can go to 20 stations on the net that play trance, that is not played in Toronto (or so I found, unless someone points me in the right direction.) If you wish I can list the stations as my evidence. DJ Irish plays trance. DJ Ben Lost plays trance. The type of music those DJs play is not played in Toronto. But please, do not call house, trance. What is your evidence ?

I agree entirely with you doublemandala

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Originally posted by Spam I want to hear Gamemaster in a club... is that too much to ask? Oh, and Saltwater. I think EVERY night should include a 5 song classic-segment

I have both of those tracks... Lost Tribe- Gamemaster actually doesn't fit in a modern trance set because the production was so different then... the intricacies of production have grown leaps and bounds even since '98. I can't really explain it but even when you fit in in a set where it should be it doesn't sound right.

That's why alot of producers have gone ahead and done remixes of these classic tracks to make the production styles up to date with the current evolution of trance so that they don't sound out of place/date when you mix them in.



PS- Not that genre-izing music is important enough to fight over but Armin was playing tech-trance last Thursday- not house... and it was by-far the best set I've ever heard from him. Nice to see he's moving away from that formulaic anthem trance in into some more thoughtful stuff

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Originally posted by Dennis Hahn I have both of those tracks... Lost Tribe- Gamemaster actually doesn't fit in a modern trance set because the production was so different then... the intricacies of production have grown leaps and bounds even since '98. I can't really explain it but even when you fit in in a set where it should be it doesn't sound right. That's why alot of producers have gone ahead and done remixes of these classic tracks to make the production styles up to date with the current evolution of trance so that they don't sound out of place/date when you mix them in. PS- Not that genre-izing music is important enough to fight over but Armin was playing tech-trance last Thursday- not house... and it was by-far the best set I've ever heard from him. Nice to see he's moving away from that formulaic anthem trance in into some more thoughtful stuff

This man knows of what he speaks

when Ferry came to ottawa last year he dropped ligaya.... and carte blanche......... sooo good.

i wanna hear symetry C in a club someday tho.... ilove that song

No such thing.

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Originally posted by Dennis Hahn Not that genre-izing music is important enough to fight over but Armin was playing tech-trance last Thursday- not house... and it was by-far the best set I've ever heard from him. Nice to see he's moving away from that formulaic anthem trance in into some more thoughtful stuff

Psssht. Figures you'd say that.



lol

Agreed, Armin went way harder than I've ever heard him go before.. It was strange, but given the fact I was dancing my ass off, I didn't terribly mind either.

There is Trance in Toronto, but only when the big names come. I agree; we need more resident DJ's that play good, journeyrific epic Trance.

theres room for everytype of music in Toronto

I'm with Denis on this. Certain oldschool tracks can't really be played in a set, so that's why there are remakes, however I still think there are some tunes that can be played in a set and would still fit with what's being played. As for just pure uplifting trance constantly? Sure it can be done but for me I need some variety. I can't listen to a 6 hour set with nothing but anthemic huge build up trance. Just like I can't listen to a set filled with 8 hours of progressive house. I'd want to kill myself afterwards...

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