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Posted by Floorfiller on Apr-07-2005 14:44:
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Originally posted by Krysta_101
Actual good djs that spin regularly in our clubs. More than just one decent club in my city. And to not be surrounded by people who think Ti�sto - Love Comes Again is the anthem of all trance.
Either that, or set up residence on Ibiza. |
i agree...america needs more good clubs. we've got a farely decent one here in CO and we get great dj's all the time, but it'd be nice to have another choice as well.
and i agree on the kandy kids thing too. i don't see it out as much these days because of age limits like someone mentioned, but we usually try to dress like we're adults and it'd be nice to see girls looking good as well. seems like you gotta go to a bar to find girls to hit on, well, lets get them in the clubs hehehe
Posted by dj tek on Apr-07-2005 14:46:
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Originally posted by Krysta_101
....and you say this like I don't |
well all you displayed was complain about candy ravers and that is whats killing edm in usa ?
Posted by ctprincess on Apr-07-2005 14:46:
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Originally posted by Krysta_101
Miami still has WMC though. Which I must say, kicked ass this year |
yes - but one weekend a year does not sustain the scene.
the underground movement in chicago is HUGE and that is what sustains and furthers the scene - not the big ass clubs.
Posted by Krysta_101 on Apr-07-2005 14:48:
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Originally posted by Floorfiller
i agree...america needs more good clubs. we've got a farely decent one here in CO and we get great dj's all the time, but it'd be nice to have another choice as well.
and i agree on the kandy kids thing too. i don't see it out as much these days because of age limits like someone mentioned, but we usually try to dress like we're adults and it'd be nice to see girls looking good as well. seems like you gotta go to a bar to find girls to hit on, well, lets get them in the clubs hehehe |
The only halfways decent club we have in Atlanta is the Eleven50. That's it. There used to be The Globe, but that sure shut down. The only other one I am hearing anything about is this place called the Combine.
Posted by Krysta_101 on Apr-07-2005 14:49:
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Originally posted by dj tek
well all you displayed was complain about candy ravers and that is whats killing edm in usa ? |
Should I really list all the times of I have attempted to help the scene in America. I thought that would be... y'know... boring as all hell.
Posted by sandstorm03 on Apr-07-2005 14:49:
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Originally posted by Krysta_101
The only halfways decent club we have in Atlanta is the Eleven50. That's it. There used to be The Globe, but that sure shut down. The only other one I am hearing anything about is this place called the Combine. |
so more people interested in edm is going to change that?
Posted by UWM on Apr-07-2005 14:51:
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Originally posted by sandstorm03
so more people interested in edm is going to change that? |
Do you know anything about business?
Posted by Krysta_101 on Apr-07-2005 14:51:
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Originally posted by sandstorm03
so more people interested in edm is going to change that? |
....yes... the more people interested in the music, the higher demand for sources that play this music. Thusly, more clubs will be built. Economics 101 there.
Posted by Floorfiller on Apr-07-2005 14:51:
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Originally posted by Krysta_101
The only halfways decent club we have in Atlanta is the Eleven50. That's it. There used to be The Globe, but that sure shut down. The only other one I am hearing anything about is this place called the Combine. |
well in CO, we have...The Church. basically its an old church that got turned into a club hehehe. we get pretty quality line ups. tonight we're getting Danny Howells and Nic Fancuili, Friday Satoshi Tomiie, last week we had Carl Cox one night and Steve Porter another. we get lots of the big names coming through every so often too...
Posted by sandstorm03 on Apr-07-2005 14:52:
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Originally posted by UWM
Do you know anything about business? |
you do know that the more attention that clubs get, more laws are bound to result from it.
Posted by sandstorm03 on Apr-07-2005 14:53:
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Originally posted by Krysta_101
....yes... the more people interested in the music, the higher demand for sources that play this music. Thusly, more clubs will be built. Economics 101 there. |
You think clubs don't make enough money to stay open?
Posted by dj tek on Apr-07-2005 14:53:
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Originally posted by Krysta_101
Should I really list all the times of I have attempted to help the scene in America. I thought that would be... y'know... boring as all hell. |
nah, that wasnt my point.. i was saying try to be optimistic about it[as long as youre living here] instead of looking seeing how bad things are. international djs spinning in georgia was unheard of say 10 years ago.. i think eventually it will get better.. it will just take some time.
Posted by Krysta_101 on Apr-07-2005 14:53:
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Originally posted by Floorfiller
well in CO, we have...The Church. basically its an old church that got turned into a club hehehe. we get pretty quality line ups. tonight we're getting Danny Howells and Nic Fancuili, Friday Satoshi Tomiie, last week we had Carl Cox one night and Steve Porter another. we get lots of the big names coming through every so often too... |
The djs that play at the Eleven50 range from Paul van Dyk, Deep Dish, Irene, Ti�sto, Rap, to... well... hip hop, George Acosta, and whatever else they decide to splice in there.
Posted by Floorfiller on Apr-07-2005 14:54:
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Originally posted by sandstorm03
you do know that the more attention that clubs get, more laws are bound to result from it. |
well now that's just stupid...night clubs are going to have restrictions no matter how big they are. and i don't think that is a disinsentive to have a club...
Posted by Floorfiller on Apr-07-2005 14:55:
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Originally posted by sandstorm03
You think clubs don't make enough money to stay open? |
for most clubs? no..they don't
Posted by Krysta_101 on Apr-07-2005 14:56:
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Originally posted by Floorfiller
well now that's just stupid...night clubs are going to have restrictions no matter how big they are. and i don't think that is a disinsentive to have a club... |
+1
I'd rather have a club to attend that may be somewhat restricted than one club that has a good show once in a while.
Posted by Psionic on Apr-07-2005 14:58:
A majority of Americans don't have good taste in a lot of things. Music is one of them.
Posted by sandstorm03 on Apr-07-2005 14:59:
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Originally posted by Krysta_101
+1
I'd rather have a club to attend that may be somewhat restricted than one club that has a good show once in a while. |
what?
Posted by Floorfiller on Apr-07-2005 15:00:
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Originally posted by sandstorm03
what? |
i think what she meant was a good club with restrictions that has great shows all the time...versus a club where anything goes and a good dj once in a while...
Posted by Krysta_101 on Apr-07-2005 15:01:
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Originally posted by TruffleShuffle
A majority of Americans don't have good taste in a lot of things. Music is one of them. |
My question is why in the hell it hasn't changed too much though what with the access one has to it. Why listen to some emo band that sings about bloody eyelashes when you can easily download a track that is meant to uplift you and get you moving? It's just grrrr-ish.
Posted by sandstorm03 on Apr-07-2005 15:01:
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Originally posted by Floorfiller
i think what she meant was a good club with restrictions that has great shows all the time...versus a club where anything goes and a good dj once in a while... |
ok so what would happen if i said your town now has a 2am curfew
Posted by ctprincess on Apr-07-2005 15:01:
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Originally posted by sandstorm03
You think clubs don't make enough money to stay open? |
no - in fact, most shows are money losers.
only a few are actually money makers that sustain the other shows.
Posted by UWM on Apr-07-2005 15:01:
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Originally posted by Krysta_101
Why listen to some emo band that sings about bloody eyelashes when you can easily download a track that is meant to uplift you and get you moving? |
Because it's popular, and people like to be trend-whores to fit in with their friends.
Posted by Krysta_101 on Apr-07-2005 15:02:
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Originally posted by Floorfiller
i think what she meant was a good club with restrictions that has great shows all the time...versus a club where anything goes and a good dj once in a while... |
You got it. Somehow, I tend to not be adept in English. But hey, I can walk and chew gum at the same time and make some meeeaaan Easy Mac, which must account for something... right?
Posted by sandstorm03 on Apr-07-2005 15:02:
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Originally posted by ctprincess
no - in fact, most shows are money losers.
only a few are actually money makers that sustain the other shows. |
hahahahaha yea, when was the last time a club closed cause of bankrupcy, with a totally legit buisness?
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