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you only just noticed ?

Why party when I can just listen at home???


People believe it's the same experience.

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Originally posted by sandstorm03 Why party when I can just listen at home??? People believe it's the same experience.

You've just degraded yourself imho.
People like you that never go out, don't see the real impact of the music, no wonder you're sitting at home then and writing trance is dead, when you don't go out to see what it does on the dance floors.
What a joke.

lol wanna compair who ive seen the past year to your list

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Originally posted by Fresh Prince You've just degraded yourself imho. People like you that never go out, don't see the real impact of the music, no wonder you're sitting at home then and writing trance is dead, when you don't go out to see what it does on the dance floors. What a joke.

you get the gold star for not detecting the sarcasm

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Originally posted by The Drow I do like armin and tiesto I don't like ferry anymore. His tracks became so popish... "Erm, they use exactly the same wave forms for leads in every other electronic music genre. The waveform has nothing to do with originality, its what you do with it that counts." With new waveforms there will be new possiblities. Right now we are locked on supersaws. Uplifiting trance can be uplifiting without supresaws.

I can think of no more wave forms which aren�t a) physically impossible, or b) variants on the ones we�ve already got. Stop moaning and start being creative with some new ideas if you don�t like what�s being made.

Alternatively if you�re bored with trance listen to something else. If all the trance producrers are 'locked' into super saws, inventing new wave forms won't make a difference - they'll still use the saws.

We make fun of these threads in our CORe Drunk Threads.

Omg pvd sux0rs its no longer 1998 omg wahhh remember when music roxked?!?!threeve10fourteen!!1

Maybe YOUVE lost YOUR passion and you no longer have wonder left in you.

Remember the Far Side comic where Peter Pan is in a cubicle?

Even though Peter had married Wendy, had children, and found a decent job, he still thought back to Wonderland sometimes.

Regain the feeling!

You can do whatever you want to make it "original" but make sure you keep the feeling. You can produce the the most original arty-farty sound you like, but if there are no goosebumps you can fuck off. That's what trance is, that feeling; everyone who listens to trance knows what I'm talking about.

Creating new sounds requires an engineer, not an artist, and who wants to let engineers produce all our trance. Too many people are too quick to announce trances death and insist on something radically different. That's not how it works. Trance will evolve in time. It doesn't need to change in one sudden jump. We didn't jump from The Beatles to Marilyn Manson in 5 years. That's the problem with progressive IMHO, producers so desperate for something new and original, so caught up in the details, that they lose touch with the average fan who just wants to feel good, Tiesto being the classic example.

Just produce what you like and ignore all the trance philosophizing, and "I want to be different" yearnings, because all you'll do is start producing crap, and still not be different because now your part of the "I want to be different" crowd. Just be you.

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Originally posted by Fresh Prince I doubt 1/2 of these guys have been out on a party

I have been, and trance doesn't do it for me anymore.

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Originally posted by TruffleShuffle I have been, and trance doesn't do it for me anymore.

You'll find a home at a Britney Spears concert, it's okay

I'm not trying to say that trance is dead.
But I'm really conserened that we'll become what we don't want to be.
Pop artists.

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Originally posted by Matt You'll find a home at a Britney Spears concert, it's okay

Pop never did it for me :P

I used to dabble in progressive house since around 2001, then when I saw Sasha for my first time it totally blew me away. Now Sasha as well all know is very ahead of the scene and so forth, but I got such a feeling out of his set that trance never gave me.

Everything that is living Dies eventually, you dont hear 60's , 70's or 80's music being produced any more do you.

The only reason POP music is still popular as it is a very powerfull media selling tool jesus britney has started to sell her own perfume now, the internet and the download revelation will give ppl more choice to listen what they want to, i belive trance music will exist but will split into more different styles if it doesn't than im happy to listen to my 100gb collection , pppfft.

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Originally posted by Rostros Everything that is living Dies eventually, you dont hear 60's , 70's or 80's music being produced any more do you.

no, but you hear it being remixed like no tomorrow. so it's not really dead.

everything is cyclical, imo.

also...

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One day, Simba, the sun will set on my time here and will rise with you as the new king.

Personally, I don't understand this anxiety for trance to change. I like the same old stuff. That's what makes it so loveable. I mean sure, it's nice to have variation, but not a complete change.

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Originally posted by Hydarnes Personally, I don't understand this anxiety for trance to change. I like the same old stuff. That's what makes it so loveable. I mean sure, it's nice to have variation, but not a complete change.

This is where opinions clash.
If you look at trance today it's already changed from "200x anthem times", to name a couple of examples: Gouryella - Gouryella, Airscape - l'Esperanza, and many tunes like these.
The tunes produced today don't sound like that anymore.
And if they were people would frown and bash.
Now what happens if a DJ today plays such a tune, once it would probably receive a standing ovation, but set of these would probably end in trashing the DJ booth
Anyway to continue on tunes today, they are more subtle and more progressive, atleast the ones that are suppose to be trance anthems, and what happens is that most people don't like them, so they keep saying this is just another recylcing of old hits, so they tend to stray away and listen to some other types that you could hardly call trance anymore. Trance set of today consists of many styles blended into one, and in there you'll find some anthems, but not as it used to be. I would just love it if people could either accept the trance the way it is now or bugger off. Or we should form a tranceaddictclassics.com where the trance of yesterday will be discussed about, because as much as they hate it, there are people that like today's trance, yours truly being one of them.

I'm talking about the want for a dramatic change in approach or style. I like today's trance as well. There's some nice stuff coming out. Again, I don't mind variation.

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Originally posted by Hydarnes I'm talking about the want for a dramatic change in approach or style.

Yes I know what you mean, IMO if this happens trance can't be called trance anymore. It's simply something else.

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Originally posted by Fresh Prince Yes I know what you mean, IMO if this happens trance can't be called trance anymore. It's simply something else.

You really are a dumbass. Make up your fucking mind or shut the fuck up.

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Originally posted by auranaut You really are a dumbass. Make up your fucking mind or shut the fuck up.

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And then you get these sort of comments from people that don't like trance as it is.
They'd like to hijack the name and call it trance for themselves, Ie. prog. and god knows what else.

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Originally posted by Fresh Prince ^ | | And then you get these sort of comments from people that don't like trance as it is. They'd like to hijack the name and call it trance for themselves, Ie. prog. and god knows what else.

you say if trance changes it can't be called trance, but before that you admit it's changed from the 'anthem' days, Surely by that thinking what you listen to now isn't trance then

Since you say we should make a classic ta & go there, i don't agree, if you don't like ta as it is (and the fact that it was the people who liked the older stuff what made it the best community in the world) then why not just make www.shittynewtranceaddict.com & go there rather than moving those who were there first

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Originally posted by Ian^ you say if trance changes it can't be called trance, but before that you admit it's changed from the 'anthem' days, Surely by that thinking what you listen to now isn't trance then Since you say we should make a classic ta & go there, i don't agree, if you don't like ta as it is (and the fact that it was the people who liked the older stuff what made it the best community in the world) then why not just make www.shittynewtranceaddict.com & go there rather than moving those who were there first

I said before if it completely changes, like if you take a guitar out of rock! What we listen today - I also said that trance sets are different, but hey it's still called trance, I am just saying people have lowered the main ingredient (super saws etc.) because apparently it's cheesy now to many.

Ok I'll agree with you on 2nd point, but it's "you" who don't seem to accept today's trance.

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Originally posted by Fresh Prince I said before if it completely changes, like if you take a guitar out of rock! What we listen today - I also said that trance sets are different, but hey it's still called trance, I am just saying people have lowered the main ingredient (super saws etc.) because apparently it's cheesy now to many. Ok I'll agree with you on 2nd point, but it's "you" who don't seem to accept today's trance.

The main ingredient in trance is not a supersaw. It's supposed to be acid, but it's been almost completely taken out. So again, like Ian said... by your definition, what you listen to is NOT trance.

Make up your mind.

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Originally posted by Fresh Prince I said before if it completely changes, like if you take a guitar out of rock!

I bet you wouldn't call Eternal Basement - Taking Place In You or The Source Experience - Point Zero trance if you heard it, so that pretty much nullifies your point.

Alright you guys are obviously gonna continue this into oblivion.
If you listen to deep 90s stuff that's called trance, that's good for you, I was never into it, but I do acknowledge it.
I think it would be fairest if TA was renamed to EDMA due to fact that this music isn't 100% one sound, and it never will be.

Since You know what I like, I know what you like, why can't we all just be friends? I'll tell you why.
Because you come to, for example ASOT threads and say it sucks.
Do 'we' come to your 'deep 90s trance' threads and say it sucks ?
This is off topic - but it's the reason why TA isn't amicable towards music lovers.

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