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Posted by Slylee on Apr-08-2005 17:06:

sorry ur not convincing me, you just admitted to being excited about paying a bum a visit to kick him for a buck.


real quality human being you are...really.


and since when do you speak on behalf of mankind? it's not your fucking decison on what to do with people who are suffering...and they are only suffering in your eyes.


Posted by mellow_head on Apr-08-2005 17:09:

Slylee, nice signature. Does it boost your self-esteem whenever you see it? I think you're one fucked up broad


Posted by Slylee on Apr-08-2005 17:11:

i posted it because usually everything out of vivid's mouth about me is negative and sarcastic (we have a history of busting each other's balls), so i did it to be funny.



take two?


Posted by Jackson on Apr-08-2005 17:15:

quote:
Originally posted by Moral Hazard
I'm not a pathetic, degenerate, drain on resources, living a miserable, subsistance life, wollowing in my own self pitty.


Have you ever even spoke to a homeless person before! I mean judge them if you know them but just because someone wants a little help in life he doesnt deserve to live!? Not all of them are Drug addicts.

And your remarks about killing them ASAP is the "humane" thing to do!? These are PEOPLE your talking about, not rats! The UK system is quite good. We have a magazine called "The Big Issue", 9 times out of 10 sold by homeless people by shops in towns and citys. This helps them have some kind of income for food.

quote:
I am a valuable member of my society. My life is worth living.


Since when has a complete Twat been a valuable member of society? You couldnt survive a week on the streets! I've been there, its tough.


Posted by Moral Hazard on Apr-08-2005 17:18:

quote:
Originally posted by Slylee
sorry ur not convincing me, you just admitted to being excited about paying a bum a visit to kick him for a buck.


real quality human being you are...really.


and since when do you speak on behalf of mankind? it's not your fucking decison on what to do with people who are suffering...and they are only suffering in your eyes.


First, I didn't say I've every actually kicked the gentleman... I said that he was my favorite bum and I feel like going down to see him when I have a bad day... not that I have.

I didn't say that I spoke on behalf of mankind, I was simply stateing my opinion.

I don't like to see people suffer and if they would rather be dead then so be it, let's help them. That would be the kind thing to do, however, due to our judeao-christian morality we think that these people need to be protected from themselves and given food and shealter so that they can prolong their lives... WHY so they can suffer more? I would rather their suffering come to an end. You, apparently, would prefer to see them continue to suffer until they starve or freeze or die of some disease, a real humanitarian you are


Posted by Moral Hazard on Apr-08-2005 17:24:

quote:
Originally posted by Jackson
Have you ever even spoke to a homeless person before! I mean judge them if you know them but just because someone wants a little help in life he doesnt deserve to live!? Not all of them are Drug addicts.

And your remarks about killing them ASAP is the "humane" thing to do!? These are PEOPLE your talking about, not rats! The UK system is quite good. We have a magazine called "The Big Issue", 9 times out of 10 sold by homeless people by shops in towns and citys. This helps them have some kind of income for food.



Since when has a complete Twat been a valuable member of society? You couldnt survive a week on the streets! I've been there, its tough.


The person's I'm talking about specifically are those that do have substance abuse problems or are otherwise self-destructive.

No need to remaind me that we are talking about people. What you do need to do, however, is convince me that human life is so valuable that we should prolong it at all costs even if the person living the life would rather be dead.

Hey, you're right, I likely couldn't survive on the streets. I congradulate you on improving your life. Clearly, you were not one of the ilk to which I refer.


Posted by Slylee on Apr-08-2005 17:26:

quote:
Originally posted by Moral Hazard
First, I didn't say I've every actually kicked the gentleman... I said that he was my favorite bum and I feel like going down to see him when I have a bad day... not that I have.

I didn't say that I spoke on behalf of mankind, I was simply stateing my opinion.

I don't like to see people suffer and BLA BLA BLA BLA


hahahah oh now he's a GENTLEMEN and not a bum...how nice of you. ur a joke.

quote:
Originally posted by Moral Hazard

Toronto bums kick ass.... they usually don't say a thing, just sit there with a sign or their hand out. My favorit is this guy that has a sign "kick a punk for a buck".... someday when I have a really bad day I'm going to pay him a visit with a roll of Loonnies (nick name for Canadian dollar coin).




just quit trying to redeem yourself. oh excuse me! you didn't actually KICK the bum, you just said that you would LIKE to...they are two totally different things. lol


Posted by Moral Hazard on Apr-08-2005 17:32:

quote:
Originally posted by Slylee
just quit trying to redeem yourself. oh excuse me! you didn't actually KICK the bum, you just said that you would LIKE to...they are too totally different things. lol


I'm not trying to redeem myself, I am quite comfortable in my beliefs.

Can you not even consider that in some cases these people would be better off dead?

I would love to continue this conversation but I have work to attend to.

Take care and good day


Posted by Slylee on Apr-08-2005 17:44:

i think we all need to just focus on the main point here...and that is that moral hazard is gay.

quote:
Originally posted by Moral Hazard
I love all men.


Posted by igottaknow on Apr-08-2005 17:49:

will you two get a room already


Posted by NiteMer on Apr-08-2005 17:53:

quote:
Originally posted by Slylee
i posted it because usually everything out of vivid's mouth about me is negative and sarcastic (we have a history of busting each other's balls), so i did it to be funny.



take two?


Gotta be a COR n00b to not realize this.


Posted by Omega_Blue on Apr-08-2005 18:11:

quote:
Originally posted by Moral Hazard
Quite the contrary. I love all men.



dude?!? are you gay?!?! not like it matters or anything!!?!?


Posted by Slylee on Apr-08-2005 19:25:

quote:
Originally posted by NiteMer
Gotta be a COR n00b to not realize this.


u'd have to be an idiot in general to actually take that literally in the first place and try to use it against me...whether or not you know the story. lol


Posted by UWM on Apr-08-2005 19:40:

quote:
Originally posted by Slylee
u'd have to be an idiot in general to actually take that literally in the first place and try to use it against me...whether or not you know the story. lol


Yeah I mean seriously WTF who would ever take you seriously?!


Posted by Slylee on Apr-08-2005 19:47:


Posted by UWM on Apr-08-2005 19:50:

Heeyyyy-O! I got the rolleyes!


Posted by DJ Mikey Mike on Apr-08-2005 19:50:

I always think of this comedy quote whenever I see a beggar.




"Of course I've got some change for a cup of tea! What a stupid fucking question.

I even have a kettle and a house all mystically paid for by having a job and an ounce of self respect."





Posted by placebo on Apr-08-2005 19:53:

you'll buy a bum a 6 pack but you wont cyber w/ me.

i call shenanigans


Posted by Slylee on Apr-08-2005 19:57:

that's right. now quit PMing me.


Posted by placebo on Apr-08-2005 20:01:

quote:
Originally posted by Slylee
that's right. now quit PMing me.


i put on my robe and wizard hat for you too.


Posted by Fundamental on Apr-08-2005 21:14:

quote:
Originally posted by DJ Mikey Mike
"Of course I've got some change for a cup of tea! What a stupid fucking question.

I even have a kettle and a house all mystically paid for by having a job and an ounce of self respect."






I remember that one! It was from www.holymoly.co.uk


Posted by Earthsnail on Apr-08-2005 22:00:

quote:
Originally posted by Moral Hazard
screw the 6-pack... buy him a 60oz of the hardest shit you can find. Buy him a case of 60oz. With any luck the poor bastard will die of alcohol poisoning. I don't understand people that want to help these people. I mean really, if they want to wollow in self-pitty then let them. If they are lucky they will drink themselves to death quickly and end their misery.


What goes around comes around pimpin..acts of kindness are never forgotten..


There was actually a true story of a guy who grew up in a troubled family and then became homeless when he was on his own. But he got a big break and is a millionaire today. And he is paying back his debt to the people who gave something as little as a sandwich or a 6-pack.


Posted by kossack on Apr-08-2005 22:07:

I think buyin' booze for the guy isn't always best (although you probably got in his good books that way and definitely made the dude happy...) but i think the idea of sharing what you've got with the less fortunate is very cool.

i generally try to buy folks food wherever possible (despite the odd ungrateful one who just wants cash or nothing, but screw them). i also like to hang out with some of the homeless folk around town. there's the odd few i see all the time and just chill with them for a bit, maybe bring them a coffee and muffin or whatever.

my opinion, ignoring the less fortunate isn't going to make their life any easier, and shunning them isn't going to help or encourage them to get a job. just treat them like people and be cool with them. maybe you might even make a difference in their life that way...

(and hey, if nothing else, it's someone to drink with! hehehe)


Posted by igottaknow on Apr-09-2005 01:33:

quote:
Originally posted by placebo
i put on my robe and wizard hat for you too.

and you wasted you're mana too


Posted by Orbax on Apr-09-2005 01:38:

A HOMELESS MAN is lying in a doorway on top of an open
grate, surrounded by bags of garbage and a shopping cart. A
cardboard sign is attached to the front of the cart: I AM
HOMELESS AND HUNGRY PLEASE HELP ME. A small, thin dog lies
next to him.

He is black, dressed in a stained, torn, lime-green
polyester pants suit with jeans worn over the pants.

BATEMAN
(Offering his hand) Hello. Pat Bateman.

The Homeless Man stares at Bateman, struggling to sit up.

BATEMAN
You want some money?. Some...food?

The Homeless Man nods and starts to cry. Bateman reaches
into his pocket and pulls out a $10 bill, then changes his
mind and holds out a $5 instead.

BATEMAN
Is this what you need?

The Homeless Man nods, looks away, wipes his nose.

HOMELESS MAN
I'm so hungry.

BATEMAN
It's cold out, too, isn't it?

HOMELESS MAN
I'm so hungry.

BATEMAN
(Holding the bill just out of the man's reach)
Why don't you get a job? If you're so hungry, why don't you
get a job?

HOMELESS MAN
(Shivering and sobbing)
I lost my job...

BATEMAN
Why? Were you drinking? Is that why you lost it?
Insider trading? Just joking. No, really-were you drinking on
the job?

HOMELESS MAN I was fired. I was laid off.

BATEMAN
Gee, uh, that's too bad.

HOMELESS MAN
I'm so hungry.

The dog starts to whimper.

BATEMAN
Why don't you get another one? Why don't , you get another job?

HOMELESS MAN
I'm not...

BATEMAN
You're not what? Qualified for anything else?

HOMELESS MAN
I'm hungry

BATEMAN
I know that, I know that. Jeez, you're like a broken record.
I'm trying to help you.

HOMELESS MAN
I'm hungry.

BATEMAN
Listen, do you think it's fair to take money from people who
do have jobs? From people who do work?

HOMELESS MAN
What am I gonna do?

BATEMAN
Listen, what's your name?

HOMELESS MAN
Al.

BATEMAN
Speak up. Come on.

HOMELESS MAN
Al.

BATEMAN
Get a goddamn job, Al. You've got a negative attitude.
That's what's stopping you. You've got to get your act together.
I'll help you.

HOMELESS MAN
You re so kind, mister. You're kind. You're a kind
man. I can tell.

BATEMAN
(Petting the dog)
Shhhh...it's okay.

HOMELESS MAN
(Grabbing Bateman's wrist)
Please...I don know what to do. I'm so cold.

BATEMAN
(Stroking his face, whispering)
Do ,you know how bad you smell? The stench, my God.

HOMELESS MAN
I can't...I can't find a shelter

BATEMAN
You reek. You reek of...shit. Do you know that?
(Shouting)
Goddammit, Al-look at me and stop crying like some kind of
******. Al...I'm sorry.

Bateman carefully puts the money back in his wallet.

BATEMAN
It's just that...I don't know I don't have anything in common
with you.

He opens his briefcase and pulls out a long thin knife with
a serrated edge. He pushes up the sleeve of his jacket to
protect it.


*********

I like the insider trading part the best



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