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Posted by Sand Leaper on Apr-11-2005 23:17:

quote:
Originally posted by fissipissi
n0bben bastard listen, you dare insulting someone who is listening to electronic music( no i dont pull rap,hip-hop into the electronic genre) ) on a trance board? you can stick your fucking rap,hip-hop music right up your ass and piss off ...rap,hip-hop listeners are not welcome here !!!!!


And let me guess, you complain about people saying trance "sounds all the same" and "trance is stupid noise"? Hypocrite.


Posted by drufrumvancity on Apr-11-2005 23:45:

strangely enough I got into electronic music through hip hop break beats and instumentals and the like...but back to the topic....pick up some Pharoahe Monch, Blackstar....its Talib Kweli and Mos Def as a group theres some good stuff there...if you look hard enough some more popular rappers put out good concious songs...."It Was A Good Day" by Ice Cube "Dear Mama" by 2Pac and "The Foundation" by Xzibit come to mind


Posted by biznology on Apr-11-2005 23:51:

if anyone has heard Phoenix Orion id be amazed. good cd there tho...but spensive or dropped off the map|


Posted by Desty Nova on Apr-12-2005 02:27:

Rj D2, Asop Rock, Atmosphere, Dr. Octogon,


Posted by Atari Addict on Apr-12-2005 02:30:

quote:
Originally posted by Sand Leaper
Some albums that come to mind:

Quasimoto - The Unseen
Madvillain - Madvillainy
Deltron 3000 - Deltron 3000


These are all PHENOM! There was a time when Deltron 3000 didn't come out of my player....except to change to the instrumentall cd once in a while haha.

Good to see some people believe there is some good in this genre...although most anything you hear on the radio or MTV would give you the impression there isn't any


Posted by Nick Mimas on Apr-12-2005 02:34:

Wu Tang, Run DMC, Mos Def, The Roots, Ol' Dirty Bastard, Method Man, Cypress Hill, Rahzel.


Posted by Chris T. Dot on Apr-12-2005 03:00:

Immortal Technique is awesome. Music labels today only want candy rap that makes u stupid just listening to it. Rappers with harsh lyrics about reality don't even get signed. Rap is going through its bad period right now.


Posted by Earthsnail on Apr-12-2005 03:25:

quote:
Originally posted by fissipissi
hip-hop,rap is neither good nor intelligent ...its not even music but annoying noise in most cases



obviously you've heard little to none of this type of music. This genre can be very deep and spiritual. Don't put your negative two cents in a thread that is obviously pro hip-hop. At least give a decent explanation for your feelings. I mean damn dude work with me here.


and as for the person who started this thread...I personally like Tupacs stuff. It maybe a little to "gansta rappish" for you, but it suits my fancy. Check some of his stuff out if you haven't already.


Posted by mmilo on Apr-12-2005 03:38:

Haven't seen anyone mention Gangstarr yet..

Most of his stuff is pretty old though (late 80s early 90s).
Some of his more recent stuff (Moment of Truth) is pretty good.


Posted by Plastick on Apr-12-2005 03:53:

Good, Intelligent = Underground stuff?


Posted by BshidoHEAT on Apr-12-2005 03:56:

quote:
Originally posted by Chris T. Dot
Immortal Technique is awesome. Music labels today only want candy rap that makes u stupid just listening to it. Rappers with harsh lyrics about reality don't even get signed. Rap is going through its bad period right now.


Yea Technique is definitely good, my only problem about him is that many of his tracks sounds the same (same f the government, f the lables, etc etc etc) but he's worth a listen.

I don't listen to much mainstream hiphop now but back in the day Notorious BIG, Tu-Pac, Wu-Tang, IceCube, Snoop were all really good, check some of their earily 90's stuff out.

Personally one of my favorite songs is Nas - One Mic. That song is deep. And it was made back in 2000-01 iirc.


Posted by Allied Nations on Apr-12-2005 04:06:

wow

How did i miss the thread! im an intelligent hip hop expert!!



Im a big fan of Mr lif, busdriver, afu ra, dead prezz.. diggin the vibe of this thread.


Posted by Zenchowdah on Apr-12-2005 04:13:

man, how has jedi mind tricks not been mentioned?

also,

kid koala throws down some amazing mixes
Dan the automator, del tha funkee homosapien, hieroglyphics, kool keith aka dr octagon, aka dr dooom (3 o's )

<3


Posted by c2lancas on Apr-12-2005 04:21:

Blackalicious - the gab is one of the most positive, inciteful guys out there
Atmosphere - one of my favs, not as positive, but has a way with words


Posted by Allied Nations on Apr-12-2005 04:55:

quote:
Originally posted by Zenchowdah
man, how has jedi mind tricks not been mentioned?

also,

kid koala throws down some amazing mixes
Dan the automator, del tha funkee homosapien, hieroglyphics, kool keith aka dr octagon, aka dr dooom (3 o's )

<3


hiero!!!!! my favorite! full circle is the shit

i didnt like jedi's most recent album...

i like the first one. that was hot.


Posted by D-res on Apr-12-2005 05:28:

hip hop with depth and meaning...

my personal favorite would beeee

Binary Star


Posted by Omega_Blue on Apr-12-2005 05:43:

not necessarily intelligent but Outkast is pretty good, especially their older stuff.


Posted by Allied Nations on Apr-12-2005 06:07:

quote:
Originally posted by Omega_Blue
not necessarily intelligent but Outkast is pretty good, especially their older stuff.


some of their lyrics are actually pretty deep...


if anyone wants some real food for thought, try out buck 65..

this guy is fuckign smart and his rhymes are.. like someone who is smarter than u telling you whats what.


Posted by tylerc on Apr-12-2005 06:12:

I've really been diggin Saul Williams lately. It's very politically and culturally intelligent and it's not just straight up hip hop. He's all over the place from hip hop to indy rock to punk, all sorts of cool influences.

I'd also recommend Atmosphere/Slug, Brother Ali, Traditional Methods, Blueprint, Eyedea & Abilities, 3-Point, Talib Kweli, etc.


Posted by Omega_Blue on Apr-12-2005 06:15:

any fans of wyclef?


Posted by Allied Nations on Apr-12-2005 08:12:

quote:
Originally posted by Omega_Blue
any fans of wyclef?


i like his older stuff with the fugees, and his first solo album..


any fans of canadian hip hop?
swollen members.
moka only.
battle axe records
choclair
rascalz


Posted by drufrumvancity on Apr-12-2005 08:42:

Canadian hip hop?? I honestly cant stand Swollen Members and Moka Only sounds like a cheap rip off of Nate Dogg...but i can say that im a fan of DL Incognito..... I cant believe I forgot to say Immortal Technique... Dance With tthe Devil is a great song


Posted by GT_TraNcE on Apr-12-2005 09:35:

here are some of my fav hip hop tracks
Benefit-So sick
Jedi Mind Tricks - The Rage of Angels
Gangstar-The Revolutionist
Guru f. Master Ace-Conflict
Cage -Ballad of Worms
Immortal Technique -Internally Bleeding
Bless Feat Guru -My Time



and just about anything from Tribe called quest


Posted by n0bben on Apr-12-2005 10:13:

quote:
Originally posted by mmilo
Haven't seen anyone mention Gangstarr yet..

Most of his stuff is pretty old though (late 80s early 90s).
Some of his more recent stuff (Moment of Truth) is pretty good.


gangstarr aint one guy. dj premier and mc guru.
i didnt name em, because in my opinion they dont usually quite qualify as "intelligent" hiphop, i call it straight up real hiphop

quote:
Originally posted by Zenchowdah
man, how has jedi mind tricks not been mentioned?


because vinnie paz is a wack mc. i mean, i like some jmt tracks, but to call him intelligent is a huge overstatement.


Posted by Hydarnes on Apr-12-2005 11:38:

I can't even believe someone would have the gall to post this in a Trance forum. Fissipissi, I agree with you.

Go to www.rapmusic.com if you want some suggestions, but don't pollute our site with that filthy stuff.


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