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a person dyin/gettin fkd from overhydration has nothin to do with the pill itself. it's just from the amount of water a person drank....
n yes, no alcohol.....n yes MODERATION
n comedowns r ewwy

anyway, nice forums with loads of info:
New Bluelight

haha this shit is funny
i never popped anything..now this shit scared me!

sooooo good .. yet sooo bad

xtasy sucks
speed is nice during the night but the effects afterwards are terrible.....feels like everything is sooo boring...

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Originally posted by SiM Pe�Rf xtasy sucks speed is nice during the night but the effects afterwards are terrible.....feels like everything is sooo boring...

Speed is SOOOO much hardsher on the physical system then E. At least after e people couild sleep.

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Originally posted by Wisnia Speed is SOOOO much hardsher on the physical system then E. At least after e people couild sleep.

Correct. My girlfriend is currently finishing a course on Drug Dependeces and Addictions at McGill and, to be honest, both drugs aren't that good for you to begin with. Reading just Erowid and other online sources won't make you knowledgable in this area. Yes, what they're giving you is correct, but they don't give you whole truth.

Ecstasy:
- The max you should take this is once a month at most. If you do it weekly, you're basically killing your memory and learning skills. After a while, you're going to feel depressed all the time due to lack of serotonin cells. If you're lucky, you might get some of them back in a year or two, after your body tries to repair itself. Taking a dose or two of E one night will take your body 1 month to recover itself, but in some cases up to a year.

- As Wisnia said, take sips of water, and don't chug it all down. You should keep track of how dry your mouth and lips are and drink accordingly. Feeling a bit hot? Drink a few sips.

- The comedown is terrible sometimes, so get ready to force yourself to eat healthy foods, because your appetite will diminish for 2-3 days. Take 5-HTP (herbal drug) to help you with your comedowns. It is a precursor to serotonin (it helps regulate the hormone in your body; e.g. bring it back up to its normal level). Vitamin C and E are your friends.

- If you want to get a real good and safe high, drink Vitamin C before pilling. Grapefruit juice is what you need. Drinking this stuff will help your body metabolize ecstasy faster and process its digestion. With the added Vitamin C, you will be doing less damage to your brain. The onset effects by taking this will speed up.


Methamphetamine (Speed):
- In my opinion, it's worse than ecstasy; it WILL do more harm to your body in a single use. If you don't let your body recover for a month after doing this, you're just asking to develop psychosis (schizophrenia). Speed affects your dopamine levels, which is responsible for your motor skills (walking, talking, moving an arm, etc). Depleting this will result in you being one deranged individual. You'll rarely be happy, and your mood is always going to be neutral. Why? Dopamine is the "rewarding hormone" too. The effect of feeling good comes from this baby. Don't lose it.

- Once again, this drug can take up to a month for your body to return to where it was before using it, maybe up to a year. Depends on how healthy you are and how much you use in one night.


In conclusion, as everyone mentioned above, moderation is key. Don't just trust online sources; they're only telling you what you want to hear. And don't necessarily trust what television tells you either. Ecstasy does not "make holes in your brain" or drain your spinal fluid. Some of the reports you see on these drugs are a big mess funded by old presidents to win the war on drugs. Do your own research and remember to play it safe!

EDIT: Fixed a typo or two.

wow, thx a bunch guys, this paper will be a sinch to write never did any of the drugs and dont plan on to...natural is better, or as malek would say, Lets Get Drunk..lol

Hey mmx's that was an awesome post, man. Thank you so very much for sharing your knowledge with us, I definitely learnt something.

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Originally posted by Marcus007 Hey mmx's that was an awesome post, man. Thank you so very much for sharing your knowledge with us, I definitely learnt something.

No problem!

Yo my advice for first time pill-poppers is (mainly for those who work or go to school during the week) if you're out partying or raving on a friday night, go for the speed just because you'll be able to wind down by Sunday and get some sleep, if you are going out saturday night PERSONALY I would take E just because it takes WAY less time to come down from and it's just soooo good.

Oh yeah, moderate hydration is key for both, I think it's a glass and a half of water an hour or something like that, don't chug it all at once at the beginning of the hour, spend the night sipping water. And for all the dudes out there uhh, speed shrinks the goods so bringing your girlfriend with you that night might not be the greatest idea, also if you take speed you'll want to talk A LOT so if you live with your rents or with someone who doesn't approve of you takin shit like that... Find somewhere else to spend the day cause it's pretty obvious.

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Originally posted by Lopitrance And for all the dudes out there uhh, speed shrinks the goods so bringing your girlfriend with you that night might not be the greatest idea,

Something I think anyone who's ever tried speed knows all too well. :/

Concerning the hydration thing, the rule is 500ml of water per hour of dancing.

Hehehe but if you read the top of my post it said for those first timers, I don't think anyone wants to look down there and be suprised like I was, very disturbing :P

And thanks for the exact amount of water I can never remember.

guys how reliable is 5-htp ? can you take it even if you don't pop ?

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Originally posted by fastmp3 guys how reliable is 5-htp ? can you take it even if you don't pop ?

You could get it at any body building store.
It originaly for body builders or people working out to get that deep night sleep that makes u wake up nice and refreshed in the morning. The kind of sleep that makes u wonder what just happend when u wake up.
Like mmx said, it helps with seratonin regeneration.

Anyhow, if u take it during the day it puts u in a more happy mood.

cuz i'm really interested in it, but it's banned in some countries apparently

when you take it by the nose you feel better

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Originally posted by Verm when you take it by the nose you feel better

LOL.

If anyone ever needs 5htp ask me cause I have a bottle from my crackhead days. Honestly I don't suggest doing any pills at all cause all it takes is 1 and ur hooked. Oh and all the shit about dieing is BS TRUST ME because if it was true id be 1 dead funker right now.

putting it into your ass causes the most effects....not that I tried it tho.....

i've heard you can get the best effect if you shove it up your ass can anyone confirm ? this might interest a lot of you

btw i just came back from ferry, i'm destroyed

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Originally posted by fastmp3 cuz i'm really interested in it, but it's banned in some countries apparently

5htp is actually a substance found in many kinds of foods. For example, turkey, eggs etc.

the pill is just a concentrated for of this. What it basicly does is break down in your system into a natural catalist for the neurotransmitter. Serotonin. so basicly. help you get serotonin faster.

why do ppl use it. because it makes you sleepy when you first take it. and when it breaks down to make serotonin, keeps you in good mood

perfectly safe

psy-trancer, i once had a very good paper (or movie? can't remember) regarding the economics of the pills market (X = pills), but I can't remember where to find it

Basicly;
The newest the brand is, the better quality it will be.

Pills sales can't be pushed by a marketing campaign. It all about getting the trust of the vendors (pushers) and the trust of the street (users). The first batches of drugs have to be pure or near-pure because that's how the name of the pills will be known and dissociated from all the other. The makers wants the street to name their brand next time they see their pushers. So, when they are creating a new brand (new name, size, color, etc), they need the street to be crazy about it so that way they'll get the marketing they want from mouth-to-ear. Next, the pill is well-known. People knows the name. People are asking for it.

Street is going crazy about your brand. The mouth-to-ear is so much powerful that it's time for improving profits. They don't need to push their sales anymore. Never forget that this is all about profits. The makers arent a bunch of fundamentaly rave-fan hippies trying to do so good in society by making pills.

Increasing profits is very simple. Diminuate the components that costs more. MDMA costs more. Cafeine costs less. Ephedrine costs less. The swap will be easy to do, especially when there's no way to really quantifiate the high you're getting. They know that their brand will die anyway in a mid-term period, so they just want to cash in profits.

That's why the quality is always getting worse, function of time, which is function of popularity.

It's very frequent to find 50% cafeine - 50% ephedrine pills on the market, sold as speed+bit of mdma. Always 1~2 years old brands.


As for the argument, sometime heard, that pills could be cut with cocaine sometimes, this cant be true, as explained above, since gross cocaine costs more than gross mdma.

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Originally posted by RazerYokes psy-trancer, i once had a very good paper (or movie? can't remember) regarding the economics of the pills market (X = pills), but I can't remember where to find it Basicly; The newest the brand is, the better quality it will be. Pills sales can't be pushed by a marketing campaign. It all about getting the trust of the vendors (pushers) and the trust of the street (users). The first batches of drugs have to be pure or near-pure because that's how the name of the pills will be known and dissociated from all the other. The makers wants the street to name their brand next time they see their pushers. So, when they are creating a new brand (new name, size, color, etc), they need the street to be crazy about it so that way they'll get the marketing they want from mouth-to-ear. Next, the pill is well-known. People knows the name. People are asking for it. Street is going crazy about your brand. The mouth-to-ear is so much powerful that it's time for improving profits. They don't need to push their sales anymore. Never forget that this is all about profits. The makers arent a bunch of fundamentaly rave-fan hippies trying to do so good in society by making pills. Increasing profits is very simple. Diminuate the components that costs more. MDMA costs more. Cafeine costs less. Ephedrine costs less. The swap will be easy to do, especially when there's no way to really quantifiate the high you're getting. They know that their brand will die anyway in a mid-term period, so they just want to cash in profits. That's why the quality is always getting worse, function of time, which is function of popularity. It's very frequent to find 50% cafeine - 50% ephedrine pills on the market, sold as speed+bit of mdma. Always 1~2 years old brands. As for the argument, sometime heard, that pills could be cut with cocaine sometimes, this cant be true, as explained above, since gross cocaine costs more than gross mdma.

perfectly said

so to make sure what you're getting, try and get it from someone reliable. example i used to get it from someone that was doing it himself
also, get something new, never get the same pill you got two months ago, its no longer the same batch, its now crap.

and rumour of heroine and cocaine in it, what a load of crap.
cocaine can cost what 70 a gram, e cost like 10-15 a pill.

e is very cheap to make. where as cocaine is expensive, so just purely from and economics point of view it make no sence for a dealer to do this

from a highness point of view. now i've never done coke. but from what i know you get a rush for like 20 - 30 mins, then its like a low, so you have to take more, and so on and so on

e on the other hand, you take a smaller amount, and you're messed for a good 4hours high 2 -3 hours messed after

so not exactly something good to put in there.
makes no sence

i heard pills in montreal were good..

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Originally posted by nchs09 i heard pills in montreal were good..

actually pills in ottawa are better

i beleive ottawa in one of the, if not the biggest producer of e pills in north america, they get shipped everywhere else.

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