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Posted by zig on Apr-19-2005 21:02:

Cant figure out if they are affiliated to the church or not....seems a little bizaare as a sideline for a Cardinal....anyway heres the goodies.....

Posted by DrUg_Tit0 on Apr-19-2005 21:02:

Re: And the winner is....

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Originally posted by Shakka
The new pope is the German. Someone tell me how they decide what name they're gonna call themselves. This guy just went from being John Q. Smithenweizter to Pope Benedict XVI.

They usually name themselves after previous popes or saints which they hold as being the closest to their own planned way of reigning. In other words, he aims to be similar to the first (or every other for that matter) Benedict(s).

And yes he was in Hitlerjungen, but it wasn't a voluntary organization, every german kid was forced into it. It is, however, an interesting coincidence considering his rather strict and ortodox views...

Posted by zig on Apr-19-2005 21:12:

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Originally posted by Shakka
Wow. That didn't take long. Service temporarily unavailable. He must have quite the fan club!

It does work, i had to try it a few times myself, whoever is running the site probably cant believe their luck that he was made Pope....a blessing in disguise....or something like that.. mmmm those ten packs look tempting....

And those hats would look good on any Protestant imo.....

Posted by LiquidX on Apr-20-2005 02:38:

He looks like the dude from Star Wars .. The Dark Side heh..

Posted by Lira on Apr-20-2005 03:15:

I'm truely disappointed. Both in a serious and in a comical context.

In a serious context, his choice makes it clear that the church has not learned from its previous mistakes (being an extremely stubborn institution). Claiming that "Only in the Catholic church is there eternal salvation" is a really narrow-minded statement for the leader of a 1 billion follower religion.

It also makes it clear that it's the Roman Apostholic (sp?) Church... I wonder for how long the Catholic church will cease to be an exclusively "European" religion in spite of having only 25% of total followers in that continent.

As for the comical context... let's face it - the Nigerian pope would totally rock!

Nay, I'm not converting back to Catholicism.

edit: It's just a transition pope anyway... let's see what who's next.

Posted by TigerClaw on Apr-20-2005 03:24:

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Originally posted by LiquidX
He looks like the dude from Star Wars .. The Dark Side heh..

You mean, Emperor Palpatine, Yep, The Sith are now in control of the Vatican.

Posted by Massive84 on Apr-20-2005 04:44:

Sigh, PICK A YOUNG POPE AT LEAST!

5 years laters this dude dies and my TV gets ruined again ;/

Posted by razmataz on Apr-20-2005 09:59:

I am a little confused. The choice of Pope is allegedly made by God with the Cardinals acting as servants. So why are so many Africans and Latin Americans pissed off about the choice. After all it was God's choice.

Though, they do have a right to be since he was a clear favourite from the start. I wonder what is God's point of view on this.

Posted by Lira on Apr-20-2005 12:49:

Posted by Rhand on Apr-20-2005 14:23:

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Originally posted by Lira
Because God's sense of rockness has completely vanished. Otherwise he would've chosen the Nigerian pope, who would totally rock! Or Jackie Chan... I'd immediately convert back to Christianity if he were the pope.

Who wouldn't?

Posted by zig on Apr-20-2005 16:30:

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Originally posted by razmataz
I am a little confused. The choice of Pope is allegedly made by God with the Cardinals acting as servants. So why are so many Africans and Latin Americans pissed off about the choice. After all it was God's choice.

Though, they do have a right to be since he was a clear favourite from the start. I wonder what is God's point of view on this.

Yes it is an interesting situation, it seems to be devisive within the Catholic church, at a local level last night i listened to our national radio station which had a 1 1/2 hour discussion on the new pope, this was a really good programme its usually a political programme but current affairs also, they had many theologians priests bishops etc and also lay people.But i dont think i have ever heard so much dissent from irish priests before, not so openly anyway.A lot of them had serious objections to the new pope and thought it as a retrograde step as regards the catholic church.

Just in reference to your point about it being Gods choice, they also interviewed some of the cardinals who were involved in the election process and each of them said they felt "Gods hand of guidence" in coming to the decision as to whom they would vote for, now presumably not every Cardinal voted for Ratzinger, so you would wonder how "Gods hand of guidence" worked for those that didnt vote for him, as it dosent seem to be a universal guidence if the cracks are now beginning to appear, but i suppose freewill and all that, would be argued against me....(does this make sense to anybody else...just something i thought of it as the Cardinals spoke last night...maybe my thoughts arent clear enough?....anyway)

Posted by razmataz on Apr-20-2005 18:33:

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Originally posted by zig
Yes it is an interesting situation, it seems to be devisive within the Catholic church, at a local level last night i listened to our national radio station which had a 1 1/2 hour discussion on the new pope, this was a really good programme its usually a political programme but current affairs also, they had many theologians priests bishops etc and also lay people.But i dont think i have ever heard so much dissent from irish priests before, not so openly anyway.A lot of them had serious objections to the new pope and thought it as a retrograde step as regards the catholic church.

Just in reference to your point about it being Gods choice, they also interviewed some of the cardinals who were involved in the election process and each of them said they felt "Gods hand of guidence" in coming to the decision as to whom they would vote for, now presumably not every Cardinal voted for Ratzinger, so you would wonder how "Gods hand of guidence" worked for those that didnt vote for him, as it dosent seem to be a universal guidence if the cracks are now beginning to appear, but i suppose freewill and all that, would be argued against me....(does this make sense to anybody else...just something i thought of it as the Cardinals spoke last night...maybe my thoughts arent clear enough?....anyway)

I do get you. I am not religious (not even Christian for that matter) and I don't pretend to know much about anything related to religion. I just figured that the people who would pay most attention to the pope's election would be religious by nature and thus accept "God's decision". Seeing so much resentment in my mind is a good thing because it means to me that people around the world are yearning for more practical effects rather than depending on a bogus notion of God. Whether they realise this is another thing I suppose.

Posted by Rhand on Apr-20-2005 18:56:

Cardinal Danneels had to win

Posted by LiquidX on Apr-21-2005 20:13:

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