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Originally posted by Sykonee That's the crux of it, really. For thousands of 'dance fans', the music on Tranceport was quite new. Really, that's all Oakenfold the DJ has done with most of his compilations: provide the most popular trance/prog/euro for folks who don't really pay much attention to such things. DJing as an art really isn't on his mind. As a compilation, it's alright so long as you don't already have a bunch of the same songs on a bunch of other compilations (which I already did so Tranceport passed me by). Coupled with a fierce marketing campaign (touring with U2 certainly helps) and you have yourself a compilation that will get noticed by more than your regular EDM fan. Some call it groundbreaking if they are new to the music. Folks in it longer call it being the Chris Sheppard of the trance scene. Bottom line: Tranceport is a good little compilation to either get you aquainted with the music or have a bunch of classics all together on one disc, but nothing more.

i dont think anyone here has really called it an amazing piece of art. But it does its job...

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Originally posted by SYSTEM-J but they were the most obvious tracks in the world to put on it, which is why I disagree that it is good track selection. Any bedroom DJ or trance fan could have picked the exact same tracks. Does Oakey deserve credit for mixing togethor the most obvious track list you can think of? I don't think so.

no-one knew how big/lasting they were going to be at the time though...
best trance compilation ever imo, with magik 6, boundaries of imagination coming in 2nd and 3rd for me...

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Originally posted by Nell no-one knew how big/lasting they were going to be at the time though...

Y'see, I have to sometimes wonder if the fact folks were first introduced to trance through these tracks has more to do with it rather than a timeless quality to them. We tend to have fonder memories of the music that was around when we go through certain changes in our lives than the music that isn't.

EDIT: Fact of the matter is many were listening to these tracks when they were going to their first raves. Hearing them will always bring back those memories.

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Originally posted by sandstorm03 i dont think anyone here has really called it an amazing piece of art. But it does its job...

Hehe... Maybe not in this thread...

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Originally posted by Sykonee Hehe... Maybe not in this thread...

who cares about anyone else. I mean you basically have to be deaf, to not notice the horrid mixing between tracks.

I do love Tranceport, but I think I fancy the 2nd disc of Another World a little more.

I love Eugina, Northsky, and Song to the Siren... and then there are those other two tracks... can't remember the names...

Oh yeah, Flesh and Silence

Yeah, I much preferred Another World. But what was with all those bloody radio samples? Don't need to pat your back too much there, Mr. Perfecto.

Hahaha, yeah, "Trancegiving Nights, 1999, @ The Roxie, New York City".... uh.... ok, get back to the track please.

I like the overlay on Eugina though. Mengon, mei, mei.

While, Oakenfold's mixing is not very good, its not as bad as people make it out to be. First, I must say that I am talking about his mx cds here, not his live shows. When I first listened to his mixes, before I got into some more talented artists I could not notice that the mixing was poor. People that I played oakenfold to, that are new to EDM, have never commented on his poor mixing. When you actively listen for these messups though you are magenifying how bad the mix is. Oakenfold does not do smooth transitions well, however it is not this abomination that you make it out to be.

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Originally posted by kush paintings When you actively listen for these messups though you...

have too much time on your hands and i challenge you to release a cd that's better, one that stands the test of time like tranceport has.

i let a friend listen to the cd for the first time a month ago, and they commented that it's awesome and he wants to hear more like it

hold on...i thought the mixing in Tranceport was really really good. I didn't think mixing could get much better than that.

maybe i just havent been exposed to enough material? But I was listening for mixing, and thought it was near flawless.

Listen and learn, xstalkrx.

In my humble opinion, Oakenfolds mixing on cds (which is what we are talking about here) is good enough to ge tthe job done, nothing more. There aren't any mismatched beats, the tunes flow pretty smoothly, especially on tranceport and another world. However, after you listen to guys even big guys like Sasha and Digweed, I think you realize how uninventive Oakenfold's mixing is. His track selection has always been good, but in that sense he has always been a one dimensional dj. Back to the point of this thread, though I think if you liked Tranceport although you might not listen to another cd that you might attach the same meaning too you should explore further. Residence at Cream is a great place to start, I suggest Great Wall (moreso disc 2), and then maybe move onto Tiesto and get further and further into it. Once again, just my opinion, not facts.

Actually Tiesto and Quicksilver got me into the scene. However, I was attracted towards the "cheese" side of Tiesto. (example: live @ energy 2000, traffic, etc.)

Sparkles is cool too, though I dont think it is cheese.

Anyways, I'm now giving his older comps a listen. Such as Magik, and In Search of Sunrise.

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Originally posted by xstalkrx hold on...i thought the mixing in Tranceport was really really good. I didn't think mixing could get much better than that. maybe i just havent been exposed to enough material? But I was listening for mixing, and thought it was near flawless.

Oakey mixes the intros and outros of practically every track. This means he is mixing the simplest part of each track. Now, beatmatching is hard, but Oakey makes it a lot easier on himself by basically mixing percussion- removing most of the skill of mixing. You basically have every track stitched togethor over a couple of bars- no imagination or effort. Its only one step up from starting the tracks one after each other without any mixing.

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Originally posted by SYSTEM-J Oakey mixes the intros and outros of practically every track. This means he is mixing the simplest part of each track. Now, beatmatching is hard, but Oakey makes it a lot easier on himself by basically mixing percussion- removing most of the skill of mixing. You basically have every track stitched togethor over a couple of bars- no imagination or effort. Its only one step up from starting the tracks one after each other without any mixing.

he doesn't even mix it. He slams most of the levels.

you people dont notice?

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Originally posted by kush paintings In my humble opinion, Oakenfolds mixing on cds (which is what we are talking about here) is good enough to ge tthe job done, nothing more. There aren't any mismatched beats, the tunes flow pretty smoothly, especially on tranceport and another world.

hello i can almost do that...

Oakenfold has never been the most technical dj, but he plays good tracks, and he's better than Tiesto, technically, IMO. He, at least, doesn't sloppily slam bass upon bass and come off on as many mixes as Tiesto does. He's pretty good at covering up his mistakes, live, too. Those with an ear will notice, but the average listener won't because he shields his mistakes from his audience.

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Originally posted by NiteMer Oakenfold has never been the most technical dj, but he plays good tracks, and he's better than Tiesto, technically, IMO. He, at least, doesn't sloppily slam bass upon bass and come off on as many mixes as Tiesto does. He's pretty good at covering up his mistakes, live, too. Those with an ear will notice, but the average listener won't because he shields his mistakes from his audience.

Tiesto & Oaki do have things in common, and share many tracks. But their style has obviousely been different over the years. Other then the recent Ultra set that Oaki played. He has never been the Techy, "hard kick", dj that Tiesto has held onto for a while. Tiestos style has always been clashy, so its hard to cover up mistakes...

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Originally posted by sandstorm03 Tiesto & Oaki do have things in common, and share many tracks. But their style has obviousely been different over the years. Other then the recent Ultra set that Oaki played. He has never been the Techy, "hard kick", dj that Tiesto has held onto for a while. Tiestos style has always been clashy, so its hard to cover up mistakes...

Yeah, but he's a straight up fader mixer. His bass is always up too high, IMO, when he brings his mix in, and he's super abrupt. I'm not into abrupt, bass cancelling mixes, even if they're locked on beat. That sound really irritates my ears. You won't hear Sasha or Digweed mixing like that.

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Originally posted by NiteMer Yeah, but he's a straight up fader mixer. His bass is always up too high, IMO, when he brings his mix in, and he's super abrupt. I'm not into abrupt, bass cancelling mixes, even if they're locked on beat. That sound really irritates my ears. You won't hear Sasha or Digweed mixing like that.

Well duh... Thats Tiesto, I don't mind the kick drops. I mean Techno Djs do that all the time. Not that its a good thing or not. When Cox was here he did that every mix. I didn't mind it. It works well in a club(depending on how lazy you are ).

Anyway about Sasha & Digweed I think they actually do use a few slams. It just sounds different @ 125, and obviousely their levels are done a bit better.

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Originally posted by sandstorm03 Well duh... Thats Tiesto, I don't mind the kick drops. I mean Techno Djs do that all the time. Not that its a good thing or not. When Cox was here he did that every mix. I didn't mind it. It works well in a club(depending on how lazy you are ). Anyway about Sasha & Digweed I think they actually do use a few slams. It just sounds different @ 125, and obviousely their levels are done a bit better.

I don't mind bass drops, one bit. I use them, myself, at times. I just don't like when it's full on bass, against full on bass, creating that pop sound of bass cancellation. If the levels are managed appropriately it sounds good, but when they're not, it sounds like shit (aka Tijs).

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Originally posted by kush paintings While, Oakenfold's mixing is not very good, its not as bad as people make it out to be. First, I must say that I am talking about his mx cds here, not his live shows. When I first listened to his mixes, before I got into some more talented artists I could not notice that the mixing was poor. People that I played oakenfold to, that are new to EDM, have never commented on his poor mixing. When you actively listen for these messups though you are magenifying how bad the mix is. Oakenfold does not do smooth transitions well, however it is not this abomination that you make it out to be.

I couldnt agree more. When i started to listen, i thought his mixing was top notch. But then i got to sasha, and diggers, and other great mixers, and could hear the oakey mistakes.

It doesnt bother me too much. The fact is, his mixing usually was there to serve a different purpose than other djs. While others have longer mixes, which almost build a third track in between, Oakey always just wanted to get on with things. In interviews he always insisted on being in the momment.

I believe his mixing was about the momment. Dont let the two songs tred on eachother for too long, just get on in, and then get it out, so you can instantly enjoy the next song. One thing you guys are totally missing is where he mixed in songs. I found that he usually mixed it in at the perfect spot, the song has had enough time to build up, but its not too far in.

In the end, im content with his mixing.

i have almost every oakey album:

tranceport = BEST COMPILATION EVER!!!!!!!

Great point. Whenver I listen to an Oakenfold mix I never find myself itching to hear the next track, as with some djs who are smooth as silk but at some point in their mixes you find yourself bored.

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