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Posted by JakeC on Apr-28-2005 06:51:

it would be a sight if Zabs suddenly did one of this spinning things like dj craze does.


Posted by auranaut on Apr-28-2005 14:30:

Anyone got any DJ Craze videos?


Posted by dj tek on Apr-28-2005 16:06:

overrated


Posted by WM2 on Apr-28-2005 16:44:

quote:
Originally posted by beats and beeps
He is not a turntablist.

No kidding.

Reading comprehension would have really helped you in this situation.


Posted by Sthlm on Apr-28-2005 19:23:

Wtf is wrong w/ everyone in here? All i said was he is unreal what he does w/ those cdj's and for a edm artist, thats saying something. I never compared him to any turntablist or said he was better. Its an over all aspect of him that is incredible. I'd like those turntablist do mixing, producing, and making the track selection Zab's makes. Everyone that compared him to Craze and others is a fucking troll.


Posted by dj_alucard on Apr-28-2005 19:33:

id love to have access to the technology he does

his dj gear is liek over 10 grand aint it

id love to fool with musci that way

his sets are very intersting


Posted by beats and beeps on Apr-28-2005 19:38:

quote:
Originally posted by NomiKhan
Wtf is wrong w/ everyone in here? All i said was he is unreal what he does w/ those cdj's and for a edm artist, thats saying something. I never compared him to any turntablist or said he was better. Its an over all aspect of him that is incredible. I'd like those turntablist do mixing, producing, and making the track selection Zab's makes. Everyone that compared him to Craze and others is a fucking troll.


Most turntablists do mix, produce, and have superb track selection. Look into that dj ishkur was on about...z trip or whatever. He has superb production and track selection skills, although I dont like his music.

In fact alot of turntablists have many more successful productions behind them than zabiela does...look at Kid Koala. His productions are great.

What does he do with the cdjs that is so "unreal" if you would care to explain. Setting hot cues to edit/remix a track is something many djs have been doing for a while. Do you consider looping a scratch sample, running it through the 1/4 tranform effect on and efx 500, and moving the jet effect wheel along as you spin the cdj platter backwards, and adjusting the timing with the paremeter knob to exit the scratch unreal?


Posted by NiteMer on Apr-28-2005 19:39:

quote:
Originally posted by NomiKhan
Wtf is wrong w/ everyone in here? All i said was he is unreal what he does w/ those cdj's and for a edm artist, thats saying something. I never compared him to any turntablist or said he was better. Its an over all aspect of him that is incredible. I'd like those turntablist do mixing, producing, and making the track selection Zab's makes. Everyone that compared him to Craze and others is a fucking troll.



Calm down. I know that I, for one, wasn't comparing him to Craze to make you look like an idiot. It's just a good topic of discussion. Auranaut called him a turntablist, and that's how that got started.


Posted by NiteMer on Apr-28-2005 19:40:

quote:
Originally posted by beats and beeps
Most turntablists do mix, produce, and have superb track selection. Look into that dj ishkur was on about...z trip or whatever. He has superb production and track selection skills, although I dont like his music.

In fact alot of turntablists have many more successful productions behind them than zabiela does...look at Kid Koala. His productions are great.

What does he do with the cdjs that is so "unreal" if you would care to explain. Setting hot cues to edit/remix a track is something many djs have been doing for a while. Do you consider looping a scratch sample, running it through the 1/4 tranform effect on and efx 500, and moving the jet effect wheel along as you spin the cdj platter backwards, and adjusting the timing with the paremeter knob to exit the scratch unreal?


Kid Koala's cd was an embarassment. I was going to keep it to play, as a joke, for my friends, but it got all scratched up, in my back seat, with no cover on it.


Posted by beats and beeps on Apr-28-2005 19:42:

quote:
Originally posted by NiteMer
Kid Koala's cd was an embarassment. I was going to keep it to play, as a joke, for my friends, but it got all scratched up, in my back seat, with no cover on it.

Which cd?


Posted by Pete K on Apr-28-2005 19:45:

Not to mention that he's also one of a few DJ's that uses the DVJ's. As well as being talented, James is very humble and down to earth.


Posted by NiteMer on Apr-28-2005 19:46:

quote:
Originally posted by beats and beeps
Which cd?


I have no idea. I got it from a friend and didn't desire to listen to anything else of his. All the music was geeked out, super out there, and I wasn't particularly impressed by his turntablism. It wasn't bad table work (certainly better than I could do, turntablism wise), but I wasn't down with it, at all. Seemed like a bunch of samples, being mashed together. No real continuity.


Posted by beats and beeps on Apr-28-2005 19:49:

quote:
Originally posted by NiteMer
Seemed like a bunch of samples, being mashed together.

Hm...well, thats what alot of turntablism sounds like.
Something like this short 4 minute video might show more musical value, if you're interested.
http://www.ninjatune.net/videos/video.php?type=qt&id=56


Posted by NiteMer on Apr-28-2005 20:01:

quote:
Originally posted by beats and beeps
Hm...well, thats what alot of turntablism sounds like.
Something like this short 4 minute video might show more musical value, if you're interested.
http://www.ninjatune.net/videos/video.php?type=qt&id=56


I'm at work. Can't access it here, and don't have internet at home. It's a son of a bitch. I'm sure he has value for some, but he's not my cup of tea. I'd rather see Rectangle, Craze, Cubert, or some of the other hip-hop oriented turntablists.


Posted by Sthlm on Apr-28-2005 20:07:

quote:
Originally posted by beats and beeps
Most turntablists do mix, produce, and have superb track selection. Look into that dj ishkur was on about...z trip or whatever. He has superb production and track selection skills, although I dont like his music.

In fact alot of turntablists have many more successful productions behind them than zabiela does...look at Kid Koala. His productions are great.

What does he do with the cdjs that is so "unreal" if you would care to explain. Setting hot cues to edit/remix a track is something many djs have been doing for a while. Do you consider looping a scratch sample, running it through the 1/4 tranform effect on and efx 500, and moving the jet effect wheel along as you spin the cdj platter backwards, and adjusting the timing with the paremeter knob to exit the scratch unreal?


I'm not gonna read all that, but if those guys are just as good as Zabiela, then thats really good for them. But the fact still remains that Zab's is still at the top of his genre and what he's doing. When they get to his level of sucess, then come talk to me man.


Posted by beats and beeps on Apr-28-2005 20:16:

quote:
Originally posted by NomiKhan
I'm not gonna read all that, but if those guys are just as good as Zabiela, then thats really good for them. But the fact still remains that Zab's is still at the top of his genre and what he's doing. When they get to his level of sucess, then come talk to me man.

You failed to answer my question. Or see my original point, which is that Mr. Zabielas success is not due to his technical skills.


Posted by auranaut on Apr-28-2005 20:22:

quote:
Originally posted by NiteMer
Calm down. I know that I, for one, wasn't comparing him to Craze to make you look like an idiot. It's just a good topic of discussion. Auranaut called him a turntablist, and that's how that got started.


Sorry, didn't mean to imply that he should be compared to turntablists, 'cuz he's far from a proper one.


Posted by NiteMer on Apr-28-2005 20:30:

quote:
Originally posted by auranaut
Sorry, didn't mean to imply that he should be compared to turntablists, 'cuz he's far from a proper one.


No worries. It was a good topic of conversation. I just brought it up to bring the thread starter out of his hissy fit.


Posted by Sthlm on Apr-28-2005 21:16:

quote:
Originally posted by beats and beeps
You failed to answer my question. Or see my original point, which is that Mr. Zabielas success is not due to his technical skills.


I never said he was sucessful because of his technical skills, but he does incorporate them well into his sets which makes him the only edm artist doing it soo well.


Posted by Sthlm on Apr-28-2005 21:17:

quote:
Originally posted by auranaut
Sorry, didn't mean to imply that he should be compared to turntablists, 'cuz he's far from a proper one.


no worries mate, its because the thread was going into a negative direction that made me kinda pissed.


Posted by Sthlm on Apr-28-2005 21:18:

quote:
Originally posted by NiteMer
No worries. It was a good topic of conversation. I just brought it up to bring the thread starter out of his hissy fit.


is that right?


Posted by NiteMer on Apr-28-2005 21:26:

quote:
Originally posted by NomiKhan
is that right?



Damn, bro. I was just trying to get a rise out of you, and it, apparantly, worked. Ease up a little bit, and stop taking everything so seriously.

Edit - Did you go to the academy in CO Spgs?


Posted by JakeC on Apr-28-2005 21:29:

he got great technical skills.

but hes a geek.

theoretically hes verging on EMO.


Posted by beats and beeps on Apr-28-2005 23:38:

quote:
Originally posted by Aiwendil
holy krap, that's entertaining. i like the other one more though
http://www.ninjatune.net/videos/video.php?type=qt&id=21

Hehe, I remember seeing Fender Bender on the Canadian Broadcasting Corporation when I was about 10. (2000 or 2001 if I remember)


Posted by Sthlm on Apr-28-2005 23:55:

quote:
Originally posted by NiteMer
Damn, bro. I was just trying to get a rise out of you, and it, apparantly, worked. Ease up a little bit, and stop taking everything so seriously.

Edit - Did you go to the academy in CO Spgs?


I started this thread as a serious discussion, but it went into a direction i did not intend to. Anyways, i'm in rotc at my University and will be a 2nd LT in the air force after i get my masters.


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