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Posted by Fresh Prince on May-02-2005 20:51:

I haven't heard ISOS 4, but ASOT 2005 is great imho, I prefer the 1st CD. It is what it's name suggests, reflection of the ASOT show.
Now I'm sure you'll all disagree it's reflection of trance in it's current status, but I can't help to think if you're judging mixing and track selection which should be easier than producing, that I'd like to hear your mix CDs ?!
Sure some of you may be talented reviewers, but it's just plain obvious that the TA elite syndrome works here in full effect, ie. "it sucks, I'm cool".
Bottom line is I'm sure both will sell pretty well, infact I bought 2 copies of ASOT 2005, and I'm sure that it's both DJs that will have the last laugh.


Posted by Clovis on May-02-2005 21:11:

quote:
Originally posted by Fresh Prince
I haven't heard ISOS 4, but ASOT 2005 is great imho, I prefer the 1st CD. It is what it's name suggests, reflection of the ASOT show.
Now I'm sure you'll all disagree it's reflection of trance in it's current status, but I can't help to think if you're judging mixing and track selection which should be easier than producing, that I'd like to hear your mix CDs ?!
Sure some of you may be talented reviewers, but it's just plain obvious that the TA elite syndrome works here in full effect, ie. "it sucks, I'm cool".
Bottom line is I'm sure both will sell pretty well, infact I bought 2 copies of ASOT 2005, and I'm sure that it's both DJs that will have the last laugh.


I'm not cool...and I think it sucks.


Posted by auranaut on May-02-2005 21:26:

Here's my quickie review for ISOS4, which I posted in another thread, slightly edited. And I'm not gonna get into an argument about this unless you have damn good reasons for it.



It sucks cock. Utterly shit tracks, though by today's low standards I guess they're about average. No flow whatsoever, at the start of each CD it's just like jumping directly into the middle of a Tiesto set. Boring mixing, friggin' Sasha could mix a LIVE SET better than this 6 years ago. Chugs along with half-assed climaxes now and then. Too many shit vocal tracks; female on CD1, male on CD2.

Sounds like an episode of ASOT anyway.

Perfect Silence was an okay finisher for CD1. The only highlight was Netherworld 2005, but you can't really give him credit for that.


Posted by RickyM on May-02-2005 22:00:

TBH ASOT 05 was shit

Poor track selection, although I did like some tracks, though mostly CD1 was very dull with predictable melodies and silly female vocals.

CD2 - Haven't really bothered with it - though I think Ballerina is and ok track.

ISOS 4 - Havent listened, but track selection is poor - though Electric Pulse - White Noise =


Posted by miamitranceman on May-02-2005 22:15:

quote:
Originally posted by auranaut
Here's my quickie review for ISOS4, which I posted in another thread, slightly edited. And I'm not gonna get into an argument about this unless you have damn good reasons for it.



It sucks cock. Utterly shit tracks, though by today's low standards I guess they're about average. No flow whatsoever, at the start of each CD it's just like jumping directly into the middle of a Tiesto set. Boring mixing, friggin' Sasha could mix a LIVE SET better than this 6 years ago. Chugs along with half-assed climaxes now and then. Too many shit vocal tracks; female on CD1, male on CD2.

Sounds like an episode of ASOT anyway.

Perfect Silence was an okay finisher for CD1. The only highlight was Netherworld 2005, but you can't really give him credit for that.



Have you listened to some of the previous ISOS's? Sometimes Tiesto would slam the crossfader over. It was never about mixing. It was always about feeling.


Posted by auranaut on May-02-2005 22:41:

quote:
Originally posted by miamitranceman
Have you listened to some of the previous ISOS's? Sometimes Tiesto would slam the crossfader over. It was never about mixing. It was always about feeling.


It doesn't have that, either. It's just "chug chug chug chug YOU SEEM SO HAPPY WITH HER chug chug chug chug". (that track isn't all that bad though )


Posted by flavdave on May-03-2005 00:02:

quote:
Originally posted by Nayil
cd 1 was a little too progressive... is tiesto changing his style ?


Are you familiar with the ISOS series? They are more chilled than his other mixes.


Posted by PersianMafia on May-03-2005 01:01:

Can people stop complaining about Tiesto's mixing in ISOS4! From the magiks to the old isos's tiesto always does a half-ass job when it comes to mixing smoothly. Yet people seem to praise those. Why? Because the TLs for the most part were great. If you wanna complaing about something in ISOS4, shut up about the mixing, it's Tiesto. What we should be complainging about is the two disk idea and the shitty tl.


Posted by armandzadza on May-03-2005 02:34:

quote:
Originally posted by Nayil
cd 1 was a little too progressive... is tiesto changing his style ?


Do you even know what progressive is?


Posted by vrahnos on May-03-2005 02:48:

quote:
Originally posted by A_M_8
I can already see this converting into a 15 page "Tie$to sucks" and "ASOT is gay" thread


you're a smart guy....tiesto sucks because he plays the same shit every time....
latelly armin's selections are shitty...but i still prefer shitty progressive trance than i-have-listen-to-this-fuckin-track-a-million-times


Posted by infinity0908 on May-03-2005 02:55:

I love both releases but I prefer ASOT 2005 cuz it has better transitions and harmonys..it's almost flawless..
ISOS4.. it's great, too. It's full of solid tunes but I didn't like some transitions..


Posted by Nayil on May-03-2005 09:49:

quote:
Originally posted by armandzadza
Do you even know what progressive is?


i meant prog trance...


Posted by Nayil on May-03-2005 09:49:

quote:
Originally posted by flavdave
Are you familiar with the ISOS series? They are more chilled than his other mixes.




Sounds like some ASOTS episodes, prog trance ones.


Posted by n0bben on May-03-2005 09:52:

quote:
Originally posted by armandzadza
Do you even know what progressive is?


no, he doesnt. that word is probably the most raped in TA's history


Posted by Nayil on May-03-2005 09:55:

quote:
Originally posted by n0bben
no, he doesnt. that word is probably the most raped in TA's history



lets hear ur definition...


Posted by n0bben on May-03-2005 10:02:

quote:
Originally posted by Nayil
lets hear ur definition...


go to Iskurs site and check out "progressive" trance/house/nameyourgenre there, and be enlightened. he's actually 100% correct on that one.


Posted by Nayil on May-03-2005 10:03:

quote:
Originally posted by n0bben
go to Iskurs site and check out "progressive" trance/house/nameyourgenre there, and be enlightened. he's actually 100% correct on that one.


100% right coming from a person who said...ferry killed trance.

i dont wanna hear ishkurs...whats urs. and do not copy paste his.


Posted by n0bben on May-03-2005 10:07:

quote:
Originally posted by Nayil
100% right coming from a person who said...ferry killed trance.

i dont wanna hear ishkurs...whats urs. and do not copy paste his.


why write it twice when its already there?

or, you can check what the word "progressive" actually means, and then see if that fits into the music you refer to. no similarities? oh, thought so.


Posted by Nayil on May-03-2005 10:11:

quote:
Originally posted by n0bben
why write it twice when its already there?




OK so next time when i want to enlighten my knowledge...il go to ishkurs website...get my defs right and speak up like u do ok ?

So ive failed to fulfill iskurs definition of progressive. lol


Posted by n0bben on May-03-2005 10:16:

then let me hear your definition of "progressive".

oh, let me guess,
"boring music that goes nowhere, a bit slower than your regular cookie trance, and therefore intelligent"?


Posted by Nayil on May-03-2005 10:21:

quote:
Originally posted by n0bben
then let me hear your definition of "progressive".

oh, let me guess,
"boring music that goes nowhere, a bit slower than your regular cookie trance, and therefore intelligent"?






keep assuming man......
btw...it is me who doesnt know progressive remember ?
Ishkur does.......


Posted by n0bben on May-03-2005 10:22:

quote:
Originally posted by Nayil
keep assuming man......
btw...it is me who doesnt know progressive remember ?


yes, it is. because you thought ISOS was "progressive". fucks sake


Posted by Nayil on May-03-2005 10:23:

quote:
Originally posted by n0bben
yes, it is. because you thought ISOS was "progressive". fucks sake


cd 1.... wasnt as uplifting as tiestos any other compilations. It reminds me of a few armins ASOT prog trance ....as armin put it while playing them....

i dont wanna hear abt any opinions made by a person whod call ferry a trance killer. unlike sumone i know


Posted by Cloud on May-03-2005 10:24:

quote:
Originally posted by vrahnos
you're a smart guy....tiesto sucks because he plays the same shit every time....


lol
No he doesn't..
Ferry and PvD play the same tracks like Tiesto.

I prefer PvD though.


Posted by nwopper on May-03-2005 10:27:

People please, we all know that back in 1999/2000 we were all kissingTiesto's butt.


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