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Posted by Paul Wilson on Nov-26-2001 14:43:

I do not think it's a good idea, that's my opinion. Please do not flame me for this.


Posted by barry_sheen on Nov-26-2001 15:42:

quote:
Originally posted by Blik


I can have an opinion about the forums that we have.......I am moderating them



Blik, you seem to think being a moderator makes you god-like. A moderator is supposed to be of some use to the forums, all you seem to do is enjoy informing everyone your a moderator! Get over it!!!

Barry


Posted by Blik on Nov-26-2001 17:34:

quote:
Originally posted by barry_sheen


Blik, you seem to think being a moderator makes you god-like. A moderator is supposed to be of some use to the forums, all you seem to do is enjoy informing everyone your a moderator! Get over it!!!

Barry

quote:
Originally posted by Blik

just because I don't agree with you you don't have to call me a little boy on a powertrip, cause the only reason you say this is because I am a mod and you think that I think I am better then you, which I am not, I am nothing better then any single one of you, so cut the EGO-crap


I don't feel that I should make a real reply to this immature reply

read my replies first before you are trying to judge me dude!!


Posted by n00b on Nov-26-2001 18:05:

not very necessary isn't it......

(oh wait, a n00b prolly hasn't got a vote)


Posted by j_spot on Nov-26-2001 18:12:

Blik, ya damn tin can....look what youve gone and done!


Now I like u, and I agree with you, these regional forums have gotten out of hand...Western Canada barely gets used, Montreal barely gets used I do agree on that...its going too far.(But im not gonna complain, cuz where else am I supposed to put the whos comin to tiesto on the 15th thread?) So in that respects, maybe there should be an aussie forums.

Either way, I think you have gone about this all wrong. you can have your opinion, but having an opinion, and being an ass about it are 2 very different things, and I think you are being part of the second group. Actually, You are being part of that second group. you are a mod. You were made a mod for a reason. remember that.


Posted by Kia Kaha on Nov-26-2001 20:11:

Talking

Well I say give the Aussie TA's a forum of their own, maybe then the sheep will be able to get a good night's sleep


Posted by JM on Nov-26-2001 21:12:

quote:
Originally posted by FASTDJMP3


useless or not , it is none of ur fucking business , and u have no fucking right to complain about it or even having an opinion , because u don't moderate them and u didn't creat them . what's ur fucking problem with french speaking people ?

sorry i've lost all the respect i used to have for u , i had nothing against u before , but now u have proved that ur a total egoist twat , and u can delet/edit/whatever my post , because i don't fucking care


i agree with FASTDJMP3 here....

Blik, you totally twisted around what i said above in my post...
1st....u are not the all mighty GOD that you like to think you are
U dont moderate all the forums
2nd....as i have noticed, we have more and more TA's from France
every day....they now got a place to post about their stuff
3rd....the celtic forum has nothing to do with this, but while on
the topic, i agree that it would be useless, the UK forum will
have to do for now
4th....THE BIGGEST BULL YOU POSTED was that the aussies would not
have anything to offer the rest of the TA's with their own
forum. Well let me ask you this, what does the Holland forum
have offering us non Dutch speaking ppl on TA??? Nothing,
therefore, your argument is not valid here.
5th....on the same note as #4, you are being quite selfish about
this, an aussie forum would NOT be there to make you FULL and
happy, but for the Aussies a place to post their stuff! just
because there are no big trance events or DJ's out of Australia
dont mean that they have nothing to offer......
6th....maybe u havent noticed that this site is rapidly growing with
new members, many coming form different places of the world,
including Australia....why not give them a forum? the website
is growing, getting more members....let the website grow and
let the people have a place to post their stuff...

in reality, why the hell does it matter if the Aussies have a forum....It has nothing to do with anyone except the Aussies and Swamper if they want a forum....

Personally, Blik, i dont believe a person of such intolerant reasoning such as you should even be a Moderator. By not wanting the Aussie forum, you, in my mind are not working towards the success and growth of this website, in a way you are a traitor, which is against my views and i'm sure Swamper's. Please stop continuing to post against the Aussie forum without any VALID REASONING...you're entitled to your opinion, but the opintion only stands with some kind of valid reason behind it.....

>JM<


Posted by jeronemango on Nov-27-2001 00:30:

im up for an aussie forum,, oh im australian just not living there at the moment..

we all know why Mr paul wilson doesnt want one,, JamesM, but rember he just posted allover the place so what difference does it make..not giving u a flame lol

i think half u guys dont know about the aus scene really.. melb syd bring most of the international acts ,, then they tour on to the other states,, huge events TwoTribes,Godskitchen,Creamfields,Slinky,Gatecrasher,Welcome2000.2001 etc, then all the other clubs that bring over international DJ,s.

whatever blah blah,, i guess it just comes down to how many people want it ..


Posted by stamper on Nov-27-2001 01:04:

Cmon TA's, lets not turn this into a flame war, lets get back to the main point:
GIVE US OUR OWN FORUM DAMMIT!!!


Posted by Blik on Nov-27-2001 08:16:

quote:
Originally posted by Juricimo

Blik, you totally twisted around what i said above in my post...


ehh no I didn't
quote:
Originally posted by Juricimo

1st....u are not the all mighty GOD that you like to think you are
U dont moderate all the forums

this is getting lame, I said allready a thousand times that I don't I am the "allmighty God" you think I am

(but it is quite nice to say that about me tho )

quote:
Originally posted by Juricimo

2nd....as i have noticed, we have more and more TA's from France
every day....they now got a place to post about their stuff


there are 6!!!!!!! if you are looking at it that way you can give every one a forum!!

quote:
Originally posted by Juricimo

3rd....the celtic forum has nothing to do with this, but while on
the topic, i agree that it would be useless, the UK forum will
have to do for now


yes, it has a lot to do with this, although I agree that the Aussie forum is the first forum that should be created, I also think that there has to be a stop of making new regional forums, cause for example, making that France Forum could been the reason why that guy posted a Celtic Forum request

I mean, make west coast forum and an east coast forum for the USA, make 2 forums for Canada, a few Europe forums, and perhaps the Aussie forum, I believe that is enough. I think that we have too much now, so I believe we have to delete a few forums that are useless, I mean, look at the RMF forums, they have like 10 d/dl forums, everybody thinks it's bullshit.......you can see this in the same perspective

quote:
Originally posted by Juricimo

4th....THE BIGGEST BULL YOU POSTED was that the aussies would not
have anything to offer the rest of the TA's with their own
forum. Well let me ask you this, what does the Holland forum
have offering us non Dutch speaking ppl on TA??? Nothing,
therefore, your argument is not valid here.


that wasn't my point, when you have a big scene in your country, you can talk about those parties in that forum. Holland is little, we actually can go to every party to meet someone when you have the money for it, in Australia, everything is big.....you can talk about parties, but a lot of aussie ta's can't be there cause it is 500 KM away

got the point

quote:
Originally posted by Juricimo

5th....on the same note as #4, you are being quite selfish about
this, an aussie forum would NOT be there to make you FULL and
happy, but for the Aussies a place to post their stuff! just
because there are no big trance events or DJ's out of Australia
dont mean that they have nothing to offer......


can you tell me why I was quite happy about the israel forum?? I can't even read that stuff!!!

quote:
Originally posted by Juricimo

6th....maybe u havent noticed that this site is rapidly growing with
new members, many coming form different places of the world,
including Australia....why not give them a forum? the website
is growing, getting more members....let the website grow and
let the people have a place to post their stuff...


let's give everybody a forum, hey, every state of america is getting more members in here, let's make regional forums for every state of America.......I counted the peeps from australia, I counted 11.....


quote:
Originally posted by Juricimo


in reality, why the hell does it matter if the Aussies have a forum....It has nothing to do with anyone except the Aussies and Swamper if they want a forum....

Personally, Blik, i dont believe a person of such intolerant reasoning such as you should even be a Moderator. By not wanting the Aussie forum, you, in my mind are not working towards the success and growth of this website, in a way you are a traitor, which is against my views and i'm sure Swamper's. Please stop continuing to post against the Aussie forum without any VALID REASONING...you're entitled to your opinion, but the opintion only stands with some kind of valid reason behind it.....

>JM<


I think I gave enough valid reasoning, I have an opinion about this, and you have one too, we can have ourdifferences in that, but you are not the only one who can be right, so cut the crap that my arguments suck and your arguments are great, cause that's just not reality

well, you think I am a traitor, I really don't give a damn about what you think about me, I am trying to keep this forum clean, and I am giving my own personal opinion about things, you don't have to like them, you can go in discussion with me, but don't give me that bullshit that I am a traitor......


Posted by ABTsportsline on Nov-27-2001 08:23:

I'm going to have to agree with Juricimo here.....

I think the Aussies should get a forum b/c there is no forums for anywhere NEAR them (unlike the Celtic/UK dilemma).....

I think people are entitled to have their own opinions, but why go about it so vehemently, Blik? Why can't we all just get along????? Peeps can't just state their opinion? .....always has to be an arguement, it seems like.

I can understand if we were in a heated debate about abortion, homosexuality, religion, etc...... but about adding a forum? Would another forum really hurt or affect your life in such a bad way that it wouldn't make sense to implement it? Thats the way i see it.

Time for everyone to visit a "coffee shop" and chillax d00d!

-ABT-


Posted by Miss Proximus on Nov-27-2001 08:40:

quote:
Originally posted by Blik
this is getting lame, I said allready a thousand times that I don't I am the "allmighty God" you think I am

(but it is quite nice to say that about me tho )


joking about it is kinda out of place don't you think?

quote:
Originally posted by Blik
that wasn't my point, when you have a big scene in your country, you can talk about those parties in that forum. Holland is little, we actually can go to every party to meet someone when you have the money for it, in Australia, everything is big.....you can talk about parties, but a lot of aussie ta's can't be there cause it is 500 KM away

got the point


I disagree with you on this Blik: certainly because you never even go to those parties you're referring to! What is YOUR use @ the Holland Forum if you don't even use it for the stuff you write about in this thread? Only party you been to was Impulz last year: and I bet there wasn't even a thread for it (did the Holland forum exist already then???)

Anyway: you can act as if the Holland forum is a GOD sent (?) to all TA's..as if it's only usefull stuff that's written in there
Well "foreign" TA's, lemme tell you....I think 75% of what is posted in there should be referred to as useless! It doesn't even handle about Trance, or big events or shit...and according to your posts, that's what the regional forums should all be about!
And let me not even get started about the mods jobs there....

quote:
Originally posted by Blik
well, you think I am a traitor, I really don't give a damn about what you think about me, I am trying to keep this forum clean, and I am giving my own personal opinion about things, you don't have to like them, you can go in discussion with me, but don't give me that bullshit that I am a traitor......


It's not your business to keep the whole forum clean, right?

And maybe, for once, you should try to look at things with another perspective. I know it's really difficult, but if we all think you are being close-minded in your discussing, maybe it's time to do smth about it...

Peace out


Posted by DjTS-NeXiLe on Nov-27-2001 08:40:

quote:
Originally posted by Blik

that wasn't my point, when you have a big scene in your country, you can talk about those parties in that forum. Holland is little, we actually can go to every party to meet someone when you have the money for it, in Australia, everything is big.....you can talk about parties, but a lot of aussie ta's can't be there cause it is 500 KM away

got the point

are u insane Blik. I was reading this thread feeling happy for the support towards the Aussie forum when i kept coming across your ridiculous posts. First u kill tiesto, then you say Australia has no scene. Let me ask you Blik:


Armin is going to be here next Saturday, along with Sander, Hybrid and just around is like Scott Bond and many others. The gatecrasher tour is here. Lately we have been getting some great acts and i can tell you we have one healthy scene here. If you maybe knew Anything about our country other than what u assumed then you would know the a high perecentage of the nation participates in these events.

Now although NL is the epitome of events etc we still have our own scene and we have our own followers. If the AU forum makes it way in i would go out of my way to try and get more Aussie to signup to the forum and if u want an idea of how many people are just going to an event in my local city checkout the mail-forum thingy @ www.adventjah.com.au ... its absolutely massive.

Anyway Blik i have lost respect for you now and looking by the opinions of everyone else they have also. Please get your act together and act happy and positive on this forum. I havent seen a positive post from you in... well i can't remember.

Contribute to the vibe that is TA Forums... Dont Kill It


Posted by DjTS-NeXiLe on Nov-27-2001 08:49:

quote:
Originally posted by Miss Proximus
It's not your business to keep the whole forum clean, right?

And maybe, for once, you should try to look at things with another perspective. I know it's really difficult, but if we all think you are being close-minded in your discussing, maybe it's time to do smth about it...

very well said


Posted by Master Bates on Nov-27-2001 09:37:

blik u say that being a mod hasnt gone to ur head, but i think it has. i remember ur posts from before u were a mod and u used to be very nice and positive about everything. Now ur a damn dick and always criticizing everyone, denying everyone's vote to have something. yeah ur allowed to have ur opinion, but u are the only one here that FORCES ur opinions on others (we all HAVE to accept ur opinion as what is right). thats not fair and not right. u also get soooo involved with something that has absolutely nothing to do with u. an aussie forum would not effekt u in any way, yet u so spastically defend ur choice here. unless ur swamper telling the aussies why they cant have a forum i dont think its ur place to say these things uve been saying - especially that there is no trance scene in austrailia????????? jesus.
i also have lost any respect for u that i had (after the whole senior VIP thing too). it just seems that u like being involved in controversy and pessimism. and when alls said an done, u change ur tune to 'play it off' as if u were never wrong in the 1st place! i hope they have one of those tranceaddict picnics, because if i see u there im gonna *smack* u!

we want the OLD blik back!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


Posted by Fraggle on Nov-27-2001 12:18:

errrrmm...

ya...just thought i'd post so i look like i know what i'm doing


hehehe!!!

AUSSIE AUSSIE AUSSIE !!!


Posted by Blik on Nov-27-2001 12:26:

quote:
Originally posted by Miss Proximus


I disagree with you on this Blik: certainly because you never even go to those parties you're referring to! What is YOUR use @ the Holland Forum if you don't even use it for the stuff you write about in this thread? Only party you been to was Impulz last year: and I bet there wasn't even a thread for it (did the Holland forum exist already then???)


as you read in the reply you quoted, I don't really have the money for those parties, I work once in a week and make 40 guilders with that, a party costs around the 100 guilders (without transport and drinks and stuff) when I calculate that all, it is around 200-250 guilders for me to go to a big party, I have to work 1.5 months for that and then I am not allowed to give out one penny to something else

and yes, the Holland Forum exists since februari, impulz was 17 februari

quote:
Originally posted by DjTS-NeXiLe

are u insane Blik. I was reading this thread feeling happy for the support towards the Aussie forum when i kept coming across your ridiculous posts. First u kill tiesto, then you say Australia has no scene. Let me ask you Blik:



Have you been to Australia ?

Have you been to an Australian Party/Rave/Niteclub/Event ?

Are you assuming all you know about Australia is that we are a bunch of aboriginals who bang our clothes on rocks and eat vegemite and ride kangaroos to work ?


Armin is going to be here next Saturday, along with Sander, Hybrid and just around is like Scott Bond and many others. The gatecrasher tour is here. Lately we have been getting some great acts and i can tell you we have one healthy scene here. If you maybe knew Anything about our country other than what u assumed then you would know the a high perecentage of the nation participates in these events.

Now although NL is the epitome of events etc we still have our own scene and we have our own followers. If the AU forum makes it way in i would go out of my way to try and get more Aussie to signup to the forum and if u want an idea of how many people are just going to an event in my local city checkout the mail-forum thingy @ www.adventjah.com.au ... its absolutely massive.


you said you read all my replies??!! then you probably read my reply about me being wrong about the scene in Australia.....and if you didn't, go and look for it now!!!!

and if you read my last reply (with the quotes from Juricimo) you have read that I actually think that if there should a regional forum, that that should be the Australia Forum!!!!!! But I don't support it because everyone wants one, when we go through this way we have 50 forums at the end of 2002.

quote:
Originally posted by Master Bates

blik u say that being a mod hasnt gone to ur head, but i think it has. i remember ur posts from before u were a mod and u used to be very nice and positive about everything. Now ur a damn dick and always criticizing everyone, denying everyone's vote to have something. yeah ur allowed to have ur opinion, but u are the only one here that FORCES ur opinions on others (we all HAVE to accept ur opinion as what is right). thats not fair and not right. u also get soooo involved with something that has absolutely nothing to do with u. an aussie forum would not effekt u in any way, yet u so spastically defend ur choice here. unless ur swamper telling the aussies why they cant have a forum i dont think its ur place to say these things uve been saying - especially that there is no trance scene in austrailia????????? jesus.
i also have lost any respect for u that i had (after the whole senior VIP thing too). it just seems that u like being involved in controversy and pessimism. and when alls said an done, u change ur tune to 'play it off' as if u were never wrong in the 1st place! i hope they have one of those tranceaddict picnics, because if i see u there im gonna *smack* u!

we want the OLD blik back!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


oh sure, I am the only who thinks he is right!!?? I always critisice everything!!?? I am the only one who forces opinions, I am the only who gives his opinion about something and says why, I didn't see you giving your opinion about this, you just come here to flame me, which makes you exactly the same as DJ James M..... and you are saying this with your 38 posts, registered on 31 May......I was allready a mod then.....so don't lie about me being friendlier before I was a mod, you never knew me before I was a mod......

and yes, I like having conversations about things, and I didn't start the flaming in here, you guys did, and I answer them.....

I am done talking about this, I only reply back when I see another flame about me, when you want to discuss this further, you send me a PM, I will reply them in a good way (except those from Master Bates)


Posted by Kia Kaha on Nov-27-2001 12:40:

Thumbs down

This is all so bloody ridiculous

Blik, I don't even know you, but I'm a mod on another very big (non trance related) board. I've always seen my job as basically to keep the spammers and lamers out of my forum, move around any mis placed posts, very occasionally cool down the worst excesses of childishness and flame warfare, and most importantly to do whatever I can to make sure that everyone who hangs on the board has a pleasant and enjoyable experience. Clearly that is not what's going on here To be honest I'm really amazed that a supposedly respected member of the boards like a mod, particularly one who by his own admission knows FA about the Aussie clubbing scene anyway, should come wading in and perpetuate this worst kind of he-said-she-said ridiculous flame war that makes for such goddam tedious and ugly reading on any forum. Especially when it's clear that you're in the minority of opinion! It is your job as a mod to stop flames like this, not start them! Maybe you should have a look at how Wicked Neo has handled some of the bigger threads over on Music Discussion that have threatened to get out of hand, that is the professional way to do it man!

I can't see why a few guys requesting a new forum for their local chat should be any of the mod's business anyway, as long as they ask for it in a civil and polite fashion. There's either the server space for it or there isn't - either way it's an issue for the system administrator.

At the end of the day it's Swamper's train set and he can play with it however he likes. I say close the thread if it even threatens to get bitchy again, and when swamper has made his own mind up about how he wants to run his website then he can make his own decision. If there's gonna be a poll over it then put it in the polls forum where it belongs, with a simple yes/no response.

By the way I say yes (I was joking about the sheep )


Posted by Spad on Nov-27-2001 12:48:

You're a wise, wise man Kia Kaha. I hate it when things get personal (partly because I often lose ). Maybe it's time to close this thread, I think everybody's made their feelings clear on the matter.


Posted by ZinG on Nov-27-2001 12:52:

anyway we can do a poll and decide.
democracy man!
why do u have to bother with all that shit


Posted by stamper on Nov-27-2001 13:38:

Only one way to settle this, a good old fashioned vote!!

http://www.tranceaddict.com/forums/...?threadid=26623


Posted by Master Bates on Nov-27-2001 21:36:

quote:
Originally posted by Blik
oh sure, I am the only who thinks he is right!!?? I always critisice everything!!?? I am the only one who forces opinions, I am the only who gives his opinion about something and says why, I didn't see you giving your opinion about this, you just come here to flame me, which makes you exactly the same as DJ James M..... and you are saying this with your 38 posts, registered on 31 May......I was allready a mod then.....so don't lie about me being friendlier before I was a mod, you never knew me before I was a mod......

and yes, I like having conversations about things, and I didn't start the flaming in here, you guys did, and I answer them.....

I am done talking about this, I only reply back when I see another flame about me, when you want to discuss this further, you send me a PM, I will reply them in a good way (except those from Master Bates)


u truly are an idiot blik. FYI, u were NOT a mod when i signed up. u were made a mod in like august moron. 2nd i was reading these boards for 2 months before i signd up. 3rd just because i dont have 2000 posts like u or whatever, doesnt mean i don read this board everyday. who the hell do u think u are (being a mod) to tell others what to do? and the fact that u got "flamed" (as u call it) by 5 people and single out me is also pathetic.

u think u are 100% right about EVERYTHING. don't believe me? than why do u answer EVERYONEs posts with an attack? and u still haven't answered the question everyones been asking..... HOW WOULD AN AUSSIE FORUMS MAKE YOUR LIFE WORSE????????? u keep dodging the main question here. an im not going to waste my time sending u a PM becuz i think ure an idiot and not worth the time.

in fact u are a disgrace to TranceAddict.


Posted by ProjektZwo on Nov-27-2001 21:51:

Damn it took me a long time to read this thread! After reading everything, I wonder what Blik's problem is with there being an Austrailia forum. I don't even know Blik and already don't like him. Having an opinion is one thing. But so vigorously fighting it is another. And Blik, don't be a hypocrite. You attack others claiming you have a right to have an opinion, but you don't realize that others are simply voicing their opinions too!

I don't see why the Aussies can't have their own forum. What are you worried about Blik, that the extra line on the forums page would take longer for it to load in your browser?

I have seen better than 20 Aussies in these forums. Thats more than "regular" posters in the Holland forums. Anyways, I prepare for a flame rebuttal from you based on my simple comment. Go ahead, I'm ready.


Oh yeah and go ahead and flame me because I've only been here since June 30, 2001 and only have 9 posts. Yeah, flame me for that because that's the best you can come up with. Yeah I have no say in anything!


Posted by Blik on Nov-27-2001 22:04:

quote:
Originally posted by ProjektZwo

I have seen better than 20 Aussies in these forums. Thats more than "regular" posters in the Holland forums. Anyways, I prepare for a flame rebuttal from you based on my simple comment. Go ahead, I'm ready. [/color]



you visit the Holland Forums?? we have at least 30 regular posters in the Holland forum

and master Bates, in august??? lol I picked you out cause the rest gave his opinion about what they think about the Australian forum, and you didn't.....


Posted by Kia Kaha on Nov-27-2001 22:46:

Jesus H Christ - could ANOTHER mod please close this thing now? And have a quiet word to your pal there about basic moderator etiquette while you're at it?

Hey Blik - word of advice - if you're a mod, and you still feel the need to start the occasional flame war and make immature shoot-your-mouth-off posts like a goddam noob, then create a new user ID for yourself, because people tend to follow the examples set by the mods when it comes to standards of behaviour and civility. And you are setting a bloody poor one my friend


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