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Posted by TwoPlow on May-08-2005 20:17:

quote:
Originally posted by Estella
Interesting, what do you plan on doing?


I figure I'd work as a translator. Translators are in high demand by both major corporations and government agencies, and since Germany is the worlds leading exporter at the moment, even above China, Japan, and the United States, german is a pretty good way to go at the moment. If not that I could always teach it, or teach english in Germany. Something like that.

I'd also consider some sort of english major, and be a journalist, writer, etc, but that's a stretch. Not a particularly stable sort of job.


Posted by beats and beeps on May-08-2005 20:26:

quote:
Originally posted by twisted
i dont know, ive been doing home schooling this year, and i have to say, even though its up to me to finish it all and do the work, no matter what...this program fucking sucks. ive never been such a loss of motivation in my life. i spend all my time making and listening to music. i need a job. i plan on finishing my highschool at Vancouver Community College...apparently you can???

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Haha, man I'm in a similar position. Since grade 8 I've been going to this self paced school, where they don't care how often you attend or how you get your work done. I was originally put there because I was getting straight A's all through elementary, but since I've gone to this school I've been falling behind, mainly because I've only attended school 3 times in the past 2 years. Those 3 days I went I always handed in a shitload of work that I did at home, so apparantly, I'm a year ahead in some courses, a year behind in some courses, and 2 years behind in one course. I'm getting transfered to a regular school next year, but its going to be so fucked up because I'll be in some courses with people 2 years younger than me, and some courses with people a year older than me... If I chicken out, or think that being in such a fucked up situation would be too awkward, I'll just end up paying for night school I guess.

Man, what a fucking stupid idea, this self paced school. The only kids I've met that actually succeed in it are the ones that don't speak english...because the translators get them through it.


Posted by Orbax on May-08-2005 21:48:

went to europe for 3 months. If you dont know what you want to do, I seriously recommend going to a community college and taking some general education classes, maybe even get your AA. Because, not worth spending 20,000 just to figure out what you want to do.

Unless you have that cash and dont care and are only going to

1)get a degree
2)party

took me 3 years to figure out what I wanted to do.

Take quarters off, travel, dont rush anything. Youll never be this young again so dont be in a hurry to get a career started. work to travel.


Posted by Orbax on May-08-2005 21:51:

quote:
Originally posted by idoru
I'll be going to a community college for two years (Edmonds, for the locals) and then I'll hopefully transfer to the Art Institute of Seattle.


go to BCC if you can !


Posted by xx_lucy_xx on May-08-2005 21:53:

To lazy to work so further education will do...
Fine Arts, Theatre Studies, and Music Technology
Dont know how any of them would contribute to a career but meh i enjoy them.


Posted by shades_of_gray on May-08-2005 21:57:

well....when college done A level photography and art....could of went university....but to much money and debt, so decided to work on the building self enployed with my dad


Posted by Dervish on May-08-2005 22:16:

Don't think uni is the be-all-and-end all btw I've got mates who've done uni and not got "graduate level" jobs yet.

I've got mates a Artificial Intelligence & Robotics degree qualified guy, a guy with a Biology degree and a guy with a Mangement degree all of them either working in shops or not atall. Fair enough in time they will all probebly land good jobs but degrees aren't everything.

Most of the guys on my course are there because their 1st class and 2.1 degrees in electronic engineering wern't enough to get jobs.

Then again all the guys off my old course have got jobs (even though it's possibly easier than some of the guys I've mentioned).


Posted by Omega_Blue on May-08-2005 22:54:

^^ that's a little misleading. you won't be forced to work retail or fast-food if you don't get a degree. think about all the factories that pay pretty good, a buddy of mine works at simmons mattress making $28 an hour.. brings home about $1000 every week. he has no degree.


Posted by Dervish on May-08-2005 23:06:

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Originally posted by josh4
^^ many people are quick to say that you dont have to get a degree and they mistakenly stop there. if you dont know what you want to do you should get a degree. unless you have a clear cut plan for survival, without a degree you're going to end up working at a fast-food joint the rest of your life. bill gates is often cited, but lets not forget that he dropped out of HARVARD and obviously he had a clear cut plan for survival


Yeah but the flip-side of that is the people who do the BS degrees (just for the fun...) and end up with shit loads of debt and no chance of a decent job.


Posted by Magnus on May-09-2005 00:02:

Out of highschool, my parents forced me to go to college 1000 miles away for 4 years. It was the best thing they could have ever done for me. I wouldn't trade those college years for anything in the world. Your degree will just be icing on the cake. Its the experiences you have during those years that will last a lifetime. So my advice is, if have the means to go, head to college.


Posted by igottaknow on May-09-2005 00:25:

Re: After High School

quote:
Originally posted by TranceSpeeder
well im gonna graduate high school soon and i dont really know what im going to study in college as im kind of undecided and dont have a damn clue.

what you all do after high school?

Smoke pot and throw down 40s.


Seriously, I was good at art and went to college for a degree. If you have a hard time getting motivated, envision urself at your high school reunion. Don't be that smuck who hasn't done anything with his life.


Posted by Estella on May-09-2005 01:50:

quote:
Originally posted by TwoPlow
I figure I'd work as a translator. Translators are in high demand by both major corporations and government agencies, and since Germany is the worlds leading exporter at the moment, even above China, Japan, and the United States, german is a pretty good way to go at the moment. If not that I could always teach it, or teach english in Germany. Something like that.

I'd also consider some sort of english major, and be a journalist, writer, etc, but that's a stretch. Not a particularly stable sort of job.


Yeah! I was thinking about a translator as well. You get all the governmental benefits.

I teach pre-schoolers Spanish and couldn't envision myself doing it for the span of my life. I guess I'm just not interested in the traditional route (teaching) as far in my language major.

Check out www.state.com for job offerings, internships, practice tests, etc. Very helpfute site. Good luck in your endeavors !

Oh, I was thinking of English as well, with a focus on creative writing. I wouldn't call it unstable per say, just highly competitive. But I understand, who wants to be a poor poet/artist?

By the way, your avatar scares me

Edit again: Here's my mentality on the english perspective. I want to make a difference. For me personally, to be a writer would only be a release of me.. all about me, my rants, my thoughts, my nothings and everythings, etc. It just seems a bit selfish I guess. Of course you could write things to create an impact on someone, but it just seems so self involved.

Maybe a double major in Global Studies and Foreign Language ? Feck I don't know. It changes every 4.57 minutes...


Posted by beats and beeps on May-09-2005 01:58:

Trades are supposed to be pretty big, I'll probably end up taking one at BCIT, seeing as I don't see how I could pay for university. I'm looking into Radiology, or something like that.


Posted by TwoPlow on May-09-2005 06:26:

quote:
Originally posted by Estella
Edit again: Here's my mentality on the english perspective. I want to make a difference. For me personally, to be a writer would only be a release of me.. all about me, my rants, my thoughts, my nothings and everythings, etc. It just seems a bit selfish I guess. Of course you could write things to create an impact on someone, but it just seems so self involved.


Well sure, the philosophy-esque side of writing is great, but it's hard to get any real employment out of that, or, employment aside, to even get published; unless you're absolutely brilliant in composition, idea, or both. As far as being a writer, something in the Hunter S. Thompson gonzo manner would be quite acceptable. Hard to say if there is room in the world for a person like that these days though.

I think creating an impact in the reader is the entire point of writing. Even if it's just your personal musings, what's the point if you don't illicit a reaction?


Posted by occrider on May-09-2005 07:27:

quote:
Originally posted by josh4
but he still works as a mattress salesman it may make much more money than retail or fast-food but in my eyes (and generally the eyes of society) isnt that much more prestigious



Actually seems like he is a factory worker as opposed to a salesman. Nothing wrong with such jobs if that person has some genuine skills and ambition. For example, Boeing factory aircraft workers probably make more than me and may have engineering degrees. Also nothing excludes him from going into white collar responsibilities from his current job.

I don't really tie occupation to intelligence/ my perception. I've seen way too many dumb fucks who can barely tell their assholes from their elbows in management positions.


Posted by kr00t0n on May-09-2005 07:38:

quote:
Originally posted by occrider
Actually seems like he is a factory worker as opposed to a salesman. Nothing wrong with such jobs if that person has some genuine skills and ambition. For example, Boeing factory aircraft workers probably make more than me and may have engineering degrees. Also nothing excludes him from going into white collar responsibilities from his current job.

I don't really tie occupation to intelligence/ my perception. I've seen way too many dumb fucks who can barely tell their assholes from their elbows in management positions.


That's coz managers are there to be responsible for shit, not actually have any sort of productive input

As far as careers go, with the impending collapse of society (you never know ), core jobs like electrician/plumber/etc will prove far more fruitful should the sheeyat hit the fan


Posted by occrider on May-09-2005 07:47:

quote:
Originally posted by kr00t0n
That's coz managers are there to be responsible for shit, not actually have any sort of productive input


Well don't get me wrong, I've met plenty of factory workers who are dumbshits as well .


Posted by igottaknow on May-09-2005 14:40:

quote:
Originally posted by occrider
Well don't get me wrong, I've met plenty of factory workers who are dumbshits as well .

there are plenty of TAs who are dumbshits, so whats your point?


Posted by DaveSZ on May-09-2005 14:54:

quote:
Originally posted by Orbax
went to europe for 3 months. If you dont know what you want to do, I seriously recommend going to a community college and taking some general education classes, maybe even get your AA. Because, not worth spending 20,000 just to figure out what you want to do.

Unless you have that cash and dont care and are only going to

1)get a degree
2)party

took me 3 years to figure out what I wanted to do.

Take quarters off, travel, dont rush anything. Youll never be this young again so dont be in a hurry to get a career started. work to travel.



I agree with this 100%.

Above all else, do what makes you happy, and don't rush into anything just to please your parents, your girlfriend, your friends, etc.


Posted by DaveSZ on May-09-2005 14:55:

quote:
Originally posted by occrider
I've seen way too many dumb fucks who can barely tell their assholes from their elbows in management positions.


So true.

You will soon learn after entering the job market that the world is run by assholes.


Posted by Estella on May-09-2005 17:24:

quote:
Originally posted by TwoPlow
Well sure, the philosophy-esque side of writing is great, but it's hard to get any real employment out of that, or, employment aside, to even get published; unless you're absolutely brilliant in composition, idea, or both. As far as being a writer, something in the Hunter S. Thompson gonzo manner would be quite acceptable. Hard to say if there is room in the world for a person like that these days though.

I think creating an impact in the reader is the entire point of writing. Even if it's just your personal musings, what's the point if you don't illicit a reaction?


I agree. You must understand, telling you these things is a method of venting, a further means of manuevering astray from the English major. I like how you're further helping me. I don't want to be isolated; be on the outside looking in, yet possessing no desire to be in. I will not ostracize society and its ways. I don't want to turn into a raving madwoman alcoholic (Ginsberg, Burroughs, Kerouac, Plath) I don't want to die at the age of 53 ! I want to be dynamic and converge into lives of others.

I'm not much a fan of Thompson I wish I was.

Edit: Has anyone ever thought of Horticulture?


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