DJ's producing their own music or not?

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Posted by sandstorm03 on May-11-2005 20:17:

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Originally posted by SYSTEM-J
Yes but it leads to this kind of confusion. Most DJs also drive cars, but you don't call them drivers when you're talking about their DJing do you?

djing & driving doesn't go hand in hand.

Posted by Arno F on May-11-2005 20:19:

Junkie Xl had a huge influence in Sasha - Airdawndagger and Involver is produced by 4 people

Ah well, both are awesome cd's so i dont give a shit

Posted by Desty Nova on May-11-2005 23:43:

quote:
Originally posted by sandstorm03
djing & driving doesn't go hand in hand.

yeah you might spill your beer

Posted by Traiden on May-12-2005 09:09:

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Originally posted by sandstorm03
i think the thread starter meant producers, producing their own music

Jep... that's what I meant...

Posted by sandstorm03 on May-12-2005 11:45:

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Originally posted by Desty Nova
yeah you might spill your beer

cant let that happen

Posted by skip on May-12-2005 12:16:

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Originally posted by sandstorm03
I thought MIKE tried to take credit for Haak - Frenzy

is this true? if it is, tell me more!

Posted by sandstorm03 on May-12-2005 12:24:

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Originally posted by skip
is this true? if it is, tell me more!

(from what i know) At one point Armin was going to release Frenzy as Mike presents Annunaki - Frenzy or something like that...

Which obviousely was a load of crap since Frenzy was done a while ago. I know Haak was on Mike's Armada sublabel. Anyway Haak should probably say what was up with that.

Posted by Light The Fuse on May-12-2005 12:57:

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Originally posted by sandstorm03
duh, but it doesnt really matter seeing as just about all djs produce at least a few tracks. As its needed today...

i spose it is...but fark, how many substandard dj/ standard producers are around these days...makes clubbing shite imho.

Posted by sandstorm03 on May-12-2005 13:10:

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Originally posted by Light The Fuse
i spose it is...but fark, how many substandard dj/ standard producers are around these days...makes clubbing shite imho.

just look @ numero uno

Posted by JakeC on May-12-2005 13:23:

Whats wrong with the face putting a name on a track, whilst the brains sit in the studio making tracks?

Posted by SYSTEM-J on May-12-2005 15:45:

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Originally posted by sandstorm03
djing & driving doesn't go hand in hand.

How many DJs can't drive? How many thousands of DJs out there have never produced anything? Only a comparatively small number of DJs have actually made tracks. Has the DJ at your local club made a track? I doubt it.

Posted by sandstorm03 on May-12-2005 15:50:

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Originally posted by SYSTEM-J
How many DJs can't drive? How many thousands of DJs out there have never produced anything? Only a comparatively small number of DJs have actually made tracks. Has the DJ at your local club made a track? I doubt it.

Steve Porter & Dave Ralph? prob not. I swear ive seen their name somewhere though.

Posted by SYSTEM-J on May-12-2005 15:54:

So they don't automatically go hand in hand. And even if they did, they're totally different skills and so shouldn't be lumped together like this, because it's pointlessly confusing.

Posted by sandstorm03 on May-12-2005 15:57:

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Originally posted by SYSTEM-J
So they don't automatically go hand in hand. And even if they did, they're totally different skills and so shouldn't be lumped together like this, because it's pointlessly confusing.

To be successful I think its necessary. To take djing to the next level, you almost need to produce.

Posted by dj tek on May-12-2005 15:57:

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Originally posted by sandstorm03
Dave Ralph?

one of my fav. dj/producer...

Posted by SYSTEM-J on May-12-2005 15:59:

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Originally posted by sandstorm03
To be successful I think its necessary. To take djing to the next level, you almost need to produce.

To be popular, yes. But popularity is not neccesary to be a good DJ, is it? And almost always, these threads aren't about DJing. They're about producing. So why write "DJ" when you aren't talking about DJing?

Posted by sandstorm03 on May-12-2005 16:00:

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Originally posted by SYSTEM-J
To be popular, yes. But popularity is not neccesary to be a good DJ, is it? And almost always, these threads aren't about DJing. They're about producing. So why write "DJ" when you aren't talking about DJing?

i agree with you, but u dont have to be soo picky

Posted by Traiden on May-17-2005 14:27:

Posted by SYSTEM-J on May-17-2005 14:37:

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Originally posted by Traiden
You've obviously didn't read all posts in this thread... Cause if you did you'd find out I meant 'Producers producing their own music or not'... not 'DJ's... '

I know perfectly well you did, so why the hell did you write "DJ" when you meant producer? If you read all the posts in this thread, you'll see other people misunderstood the thread because you're too lazy to distinguish.

Posted by Traiden on May-17-2005 15:03:

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Originally posted by SYSTEM-J
I know perfectly well you did, so why the hell did you write "DJ" when you meant producer? If you read all the posts in this thread, you'll see other people misunderstood the thread because you're too lazy to distinguish.

Oh my god!! I didn't know that!! I'm so terribly sorry!!

Posted by trancebrat on May-17-2005 18:21:

There's nothing worse than an artist that bitches about someone taking credit for his work when he has done the same thing to other artists.

Posted by Pinokio on May-17-2005 18:21:

Producing & djing are totally Different Skills

I know a lot of good producers, that made beautiful tracks, and when they got into djing its just boring not so exciting.

Djing seems to be easy, just playing records, it doesnt matte rif its your production or not, jus play the right track at the right moment, and you are gonna be good DJ.

Not Everyone can earn this skill.

and of course there are also Great Dj's , that are bad producers, or they dont even know how to produce.

Posted by Haak on May-17-2005 23:52:

quote:
Originally posted by sandstorm03
(from what i know) At one point Armin was going to release Frenzy as Mike presents Annunaki - Frenzy or something like that...

Which obviousely was a load of crap since Frenzy was done a while ago. I know Haak was on Mike's Armada sublabel. Anyway Haak should probably say what was up with that.

ok, no idea where you got that from. that never happened.
mike was gonna remix it though, well he did actually, but he had a computer crash. too bad cause it was a cool remix

Posted by Miss Lizzie on May-17-2005 23:58:

+1 For Producers , and if they can DJ even effin better!!!

Posted by Kuffdam on May-18-2005 10:08:

Hey guys

I am not sure how much this will help this thread but here goes...

Any producer who uses a sample of gets help from another producer doesn't get it for free... nothing in this life is ever truley free.

I am not sure how many of you are aware of PRS or know what they do but this company handle the royalties for tracks airplay and also for the use on compilations, TV adverts etc... Worldwide...

Now as Kuffdam & Plant, both myself and Plant are members. We sign up every track we write and any airplay etc we get a payment. Ie Radio 1 in the UK pays �14 per minute of a track. That money is then spilt between the artists, label etc.

So when Tiesto uses a sample, he must pay the original artist a royalty plus they will also get a cut from any airplay providing that artist is registered with PRS.

PRS costs �100 for a lifetime membership so there is no excuse for an artist not to join.

Now in the example of Sasha... I have looked up the PRS database for his track Scorchio and here are the details of the track and who worked on it.

Mechanical Shares Status: Normal Copyright
Role Name CAE Number Share (%) Society
Comp-Auth COE ALEXANDER PAUL 245874930 MCPS
Composer EMERSON DARREN PAUL 263243483 MRS
Comp-Auth MAY CHARLIE (GB) 176973223 MCPS
Publisher SHERLOCK HOLMES MUSIC LTD 162297661 33.33 MCPS
Publisher WARNER CHAPPELL MUSIC LTD 160187388 33.33 MCPS
Publisher EMI MUSIC PUBLISHING LTD 87019563 33.34 MCPS

Final Shares SHERLOCK HOLMES MUSIC LIMITED 162297661 33.33 MCPS
Final Shares WARNER CHAPPELL MUSIC LTD 160187388 33.33 MCPS
Final Shares EMI MUSIC PUBLISHING LTD 87019563 33.34 MCPS

Performing Shares Status: Normal Copyright
Role Name CAE Number Share (%) Society
Comp-Auth COE ALEXANDER PAUL 245874930 16.67 PRS
Composer EMERSON DARREN PAUL 263243483 16.67 PRS
Comp-Auth MAY CHARLIE (GB) 176973223 16.66 PRS
Publisher SHERLOCK HOLMES MUSIC LTD 162297661 16.67 PRS
Publisher WARNER CHAPPELL MUSIC LTD 160187388 16.66 PRS
Publisher EMI MUSIC PUBLISHING LTD 87019563 16.67 PRS

So as you can see... Charlie May also gets his cut for the work on the track....

No one does anything for free in this life....

Kuffdam

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