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Originally posted by Aiwendil nevertheless, if that's what you want, the thread is largely useless. you think tiesto is inconsistent, and someone else thinks he's consistent. you can't both be right. therefore, what is the point? to see what people's tastes are like. and what better way than to make a thread like this, where everyone will put their favorite producers as the most consistent, and most likely their most hated producers as the least consistent.

She is asking for your opinion on who you consider are consistent or inconsistent producers... she is not asking for favourite producers or most hated producers.

Secondly its just an opinion, there are no facts because people have different taste.... she is not asking for facts

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Originally posted by ONION She is asking for your opinion on who you consider are consistent or inconsistent producers... she is not asking for favourite producers or most hated producers. Secondly its just an opinion, there are no facts because people have different taste.... she is not asking for facts

^^^ this person gets it.

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Originally posted by sandstorm03 you have seen ta track of the year eh, as well as dj mag #1 dj of the year as well...?

yes, and those votes are nothing more than "vote for your favorite" contests, which is what this thread is.

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Originally posted by Aiwendil yes, and those votes are nothing more than "vote for your favorite" contests, which is what this thread is.

consistent and favorite are different.

Last time I checked.

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Originally posted by ONION She is asking for your opinion on who you consider are consistent or inconsistent producers... she is not asking for favourite producers or most hated producers.

yes, and like i said, one person's opinion is that tiesto is consistent, and another's is that he isn't consistent. both can't be right. so why do they have different answers? probably because one likes tiesto more than the other. which means that in the end, he's just listing who he likes, not who is truly the most consistent.

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Secondly its just an opinion, there are no facts because people have different taste.... she is not asking for facts

if i hear one more moron use this shallow cop out of a "philosophy", i might go cuckoo.

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Originally posted by Aiwendil yes, and those votes are nothing more than "vote for your favorite" contests, which is what this thread is.

you just said u tried to ignore personal favorites and said what u thought most people would agree on.

You really are the master at coherent argument, aren't you Sandstorm?

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Originally posted by sandstorm03 you just said u tried to ignore personal favorites and said what u thought most people would agree on.

what i posted in my first post, and what the premise of the thread is are two different things.

Currently consistent: Sander K, Steve Lawler
All time consistent: Sander K, Steve Helstrip (aka Thrillseekers)
Currently inconsistent: Ozgur Can, Markus Schulz
All time inconsistent: Oliver Lieb (although I love a lot of his work, another half of it I don't, even though it's well produced), Tiesto, Picotto

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Originally posted by Aiwendil what i posted in my first post, and what the premise of the thread is are two different things.

not a suprise

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Originally posted by Aiwendil yes, and like i said, one person's opinion is that tiesto is consistent, and another's is that he isn't consistent. both can't be right. so why do they have different answers? probably because one likes tiesto more than the other. which means that in the end, he's just listing who he likes, not who is truly the most consistent.

you list what you know therefore you're listing what you have an opinion on. obviously it's going to just be an opinionated thread because you can't state who is/isn't consistant as fact.

this is similar to a favourite/most hated artist thread in that sence but otherwise I could easily list a producer that I like as inconsistant and a producer I don't like as being consistant.

That is true. Some of the best tracks I've ever heard are the only good thing that artist ever made.

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Originally posted by Blue. you list what you know therefore you're listing what you have an opinion on. obviously it's going to just be an opinionated thread because you can't state who is/isn't consistant as fact.

you can determine who is/isn't consistant as a fact in several ways, by using objective criterea such as:

who is the most consistent: who makes the most tracks of the same genre
who is the most inconsistent: who is the most erratic in their productions
who is the most consistent: who do most people think is the most consistent
who is the most inconsistent: who do most people think is most inconsistent

the answers to these questions would be fact, and therefore the producers would be factually consistent to an adequate extent.


whereas

who is the most consistent: who always makes good or bad music
who is the most inconsistent: who makes sporadically good and bad music

the answer to the first question, most people will list their favorite artist or their least favorit artist, because most people believe their favorite artist(s) to be infallable, and when thinking of who makes the wors music consistently will probably go first to their most hated artists(s)(the sammy's, darude's, and so on). the answer to the second could go either way, people might list someone they like as being inconsistent, but that still doesn't change my point.

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I could easily list a producer that I like as inconsistant and a producer I don't like as being consistant.

the former will probably happen, and i did that myself. if someone says that someone they don't like is consistant, then they probably mean consistantly bad.

so you listed lieb as the artist "who makes the most tracks of the same genre"?

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Originally posted by sandstorm03 so you listed lieb as the artist "who makes the most tracks of the same genre"?

no

Hehe. Had to laugh then.

Okay, so getting back to naming which producers are most consistent/inconsistent:

In addition, Paul van Dyk is fairly consistent.

BT and Paul Oakenfold are inconsistent (mainly due to their failed attempts to "crack" the mainstream market)

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Originally posted by Aiwendil yes, and like i said, one person's opinion is that tiesto is consistent, and another's is that he isn't consistent. both can't be right. so why do they have different answers? probably because one likes tiesto more than the other. which means that in the end, he's just listing who he likes, not who is truly the most consistent. if i hear one more moron use this shallow cop out of a "philosophy", i might go cuckoo.

Do you understand the definition of OPINION... There is no right or wrong answer... There isnt an Encyclopedia in the world that will tell you the best track of all time, the worst producer of all time or the most consistent producer of all time...

My opinion is Oliver Lieb is the most consistent producer... To me he is a genious... Does that mean everyone else should THINK so too? Ofcourse not... Because its MY perception... whether you agree or disagree its your perogative.

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Originally posted by surfrgal Okay, so getting back to naming which producers are most consistent/inconsistent: In addition, Paul van Dyk is fairly consistent. BT and Paul Oakenfold are inconsistent (mainly due to their failed attempts to "crack" the mainstream market)

PVD is consistent alright. He uses the same bassline and synths in all his songs.

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Originally posted by tactik Most consistent of all producer(s) of all time: Oliver Lieb

I saw the post title, and that is the first artist that came to mind regarding most consistent. I would also include Richard D James as one of the most consistent.

Will read the rest of the thread now, and I doubt I could name a most incosistent. I think anybody putting out bad tunes would sound inconsistent to me.

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Originally posted by NiteMer Currently consistent: Sander K, Steve Lawler All time consistent: Sander K, Steve Helstrip (aka Thrillseekers) Currently inconsistent: Ozgur Can, Markus Schulz All time inconsistent: Oliver Lieb (although I love a lot of his work, another half of it I don't, even though it's well produced), Tiesto, Picotto

Have to disagree with your OPINION here.

Most of what I have heard from Ozgur has been quality, and Oliver Lieb I have nothing to say that he has been nothing but brilliant since I have heard of him - including backtracking into the early 90's. And as for Sander K, my opinion of him is exactly what you stated about Oliver Lieb, hehe. Some is quality, some I just fall asleep and don't feel anything towards.

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Originally posted by Krysta_101 consistent and favorite are different. Last time I checked.

What's the difference, really? You know I'd let you sit on my face any day ( !!!), but I think you're wrong this time. Obviously your favorite producer isn't going to be someone who has only put out a single good track, but someone who is consistent.

Like, for example, say Space Manoeuvres - Stage One is my favorite trance track, but Quivver hasn't put out as much other stuff that I like as much. That means he's not my favorite, and inconsistent. Oliver Lieb on the other hand... I like pretty much every track he's ever produced. That makes him my favorite, because he is consistent.

You can't say a producer who is not your favorite, is the most consistent, because it's all opinion in the end.

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Originally posted by Steve Stephano Have to disagree with your OPINION here. Most of what I have heard from Ozgur has been quality, and Oliver Lieb I have nothing to say that he has been nothing but brilliant since I have heard of him - including backtracking into the early 90's. And as for Sander K, my opinion of him is exactly what you stated about Oliver Lieb, hehe. Some is quality, some I just fall asleep and don't feel anything towards.

I own several Lieb productions and remixes, and they are some of my favorite tracks ever. I would probably consider him one of my favorite producers. However there are a lot of LSG tracks, Paragliders - Change Me and others that I've listened to and didn't like much at all. On the other hand, Substraumbulism, Lost Vagueness, The Fade and Netherworld are some of my favorite tracks ever.

I like most of the Sander productions that I've heard, but there are plenty I haven't heard so I can understand there could be some bad ones. I might also just like his style.

As far as Ozgur goes, maybe I'm being unfair. I love External Key, but his mix of Arcadia left a lot to be desired. I haven't heard much of his other work, so my pool is rather small.

Subraumstimulation, noob.

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Originally posted by NiteMer I own several Lieb productions and remixes, and they are some of my favorite tracks ever. I would probably consider him one of my favorite producers. However there are a lot of LSG tracks, Paragliders - Change Me and others that I've listened to and didn't like much at all. On the other hand, Substraumbulism, Lost Vagueness, The Fade and Netherworld are some of my favorite tracks ever.

You can also try to put in perspective of the amount of releases Lieb has had over the past 15 years, there are bound to be a few shit ones. But the majority are not, from back when he was releasing as Spicelab, LSG or as Lieb I have always heard 90% or better quality productions. And most of the stuff I didn't like first time, usually grows on me until I do like it.

And he has done it covering many genres too. Not many artists can boast the success he has had.

Anyway, not criticising your opinion, just stating my own. <3

Listening to 'The Last Supernova' now. <3

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