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| Originally posted by Inertia here we go... me using the zabielik scratch technique... this was my first try at it: http://www.sitesled.com/members/twi...bes/scratch.mp3 |
actually no, i had no access to an EFX so i had to use its lesser cousin, the FX unit on the DJM600. used the transform at 1/4 beat. would have added more stuff if i had an EFX as i could tweak more than an effect at once.
not exactly sure how to hook one up as i've never done it.
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| Originally posted by Inertia actually no, i had no access to an EFX so i had to use its lesser cousin, the FX unit on the DJM600. used the transform at 1/4 beat. would have added more stuff if i had an EFX as i could tweak more than an effect at once. not exactly sure how to hook one up as i've never done it. |
get off your high horse man. i'm not claiming i can do it without and FX unit, and for your information, it IS sratching. scratching is anytime you drag a record to and fro for a version of the portion you dragged. what it is not, is cutting, because no faders were involved. no faders are involved in a single baby scratch, yet it's still scratching.
Ok, well it's not scratching to me. Scratching is more than moving your hand back and fourth on your cdj with the transform on which auto cuts it.
Real true scratching with a fader...sounds much better.
man, chill. you have to get some perspective on the subject. if i were doing this at a turntablism competition, i should be beaten up to hell and had rocks thrown at me. if i was claiming to be a turntablist, just as well.
but, i'm just looking to incorporate bits and pieces of that art, into my mixing in a way that it's simple to do, sounds good (IMO) and it doesn't suffer from the main problem that turntablism as an art suffers; turntablism, for the most part, is consumed by it's own principles, meaning if a technique is the hardest to master, even if it doesn't sound all too pleasing, it is the most valued. although it is amazing to watch, i myself couldn't listen to it for too long.
i'm looking just to mix stuff up, keep stuff varied. for instance, in a set, i'd like to do some of this, some straight up mixing, some 3 deck mixing, layering accapellas, live remixing with an FX unit and looping, and soon, i might mess with some ableton goodness and some live production with a friend of mine (wants to whip out his synths [specially interested in his 303] and jam to the rhythm of what i'm spinning).
i'm not focused on turntablism, although i would like to learn it, but this is just something fun i learned and play around with.
"Scratching is more than moving your hand back and fourth on your cdj with the transform on which auto cuts it."
actually, scratching is exactly moving you hand back and forth on your cdj/turntable. what it is NOT, is turntablism. because, well, it is a scratch technique, but i would agree with you if you said it isn't turntablism, rather just an extension of sampling and effects based on a scratch technique. scratching is just an action, that produces a sound. actually making it musical, that's turntablism.
either way man, just chill. in the end, it's what about comes out the speakers.
Everybody is copying Zabiela now. I havn't seen one person come anywhere near close.
bah, whatever. yeah, so i did copy his technique. it was fun. what's the big deal, he doesn't have a patent on using a tranformer, now does he?
either way, just chill already man. we're just trying to swap some knowledge and experiment.
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| Originally posted by Allen&Bream Everybody is copying Zabiela now. I havn't seen one person come anywhere near close. |
lol, chill winston.
Nobody claims to be a scratch master, were just some guys trying new stuff if you don't like it or its not "real scratching" no problem no need to bash everyones attempts at it.
If people didn't copy other people no one would learn new stuff, people can take the Zabelia technique and try their own variation at it and mabey even add more who cares.
Anyway back on topic and lets have some more samples.
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| Originally posted by Inertia here we go... me using the zabielik scratch technique... this was my first try at it: http://www.sitesled.com/members/twi...bes/scratch.mp3 |
thanks man. 
HOKAY, i FINALLY got around to recording me scraching...
so here it is...
AAAAAAHHHHHH RED ALERT!!!!!
^^^ you're getting there man. seems to me you have to cut quicker keep in time with the track. it was offbeat plenty. keep practicing, and i'm pretty sure you'll get there.
my new setup gets here soon, so i'll be able to practice fader cutting.
yeah i now m8, iv only been seriously trying for about 2 months...
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| Originally posted by webbie Hey man, i thought it was pretty good! |
what is the zabiela scratching technique?
oh transformer effects
anyone here use normal turntables like myself? and is there an advantage in scratching using cdjs?
besides hotcue
my thumb and fingers are sore
the 'zabiela' technique, is just a smart way to use the transformer. make it catch the beat of the playing record, then make it affect the channel with the scratch sample.
advantages to CDJ scratch: you can be a lot hader with it, don't have to worry about knocking the tonearm, pressing down to hard, you can make loops, reverse, hotcure and beat cut.
but basically, if you're trying to scratch, your hands will get tired no matter what.
can anyone send me the samples? I sent a pm to the guy but he's either not visiting Ta anymore or chose not to respond
Just went through the intire thread and even though im usually just a ghost i felt i had to give props to you guys and put in my own 2 cents. Well first about the samples , i suggest you go out and get some scratch records (yes this means looking in the hip hop section sometimes) and useing those as these are composed by people that focus just on scratching and are quite amazing at it. i have a scratch record of my own and i just copied it onto my computer and burn it onto cd to scratch with. (Just a tip with this , useing the cue button with the fader can make you sound like a really good turntabalist if done to play a sampled vocal part.)
ANother thing on the topic of steeling other peoples styles , well if we really wanna get into it every one after grand master flash has been takeing ideas from someone else, its developing those ideas that makes the person an artists.
Could someone explan the transform effect used with the efx-500 as i just ordered one and i would like to try some stuff with it when it gets here?
well, i've never tweaked a 500 much because i've not had much chance, but, going from logic i'm guessing it's a bit like the FX unit on the DJM600.
anyways, just make it sync to the BPM of the master playing track (beat tapping works at times). then, set the transformer off on beat to the main track, so it'll cut up the sample in time. you may have to re-pitch your record just a bit if you want it to last long.
furthermore, the CDJ should have the sample you want selected in a loop, that's the easiest way, and you can basically go midevil on the jogwheel.
fun things to do: set your CDJ start/brake speed at min, so it will use a large delay. then, activate the transform effect with the CDJ on pause, make sure to do it on beat, and then hit play, and the scratch sample will pitch up, with a nice effect. also works at the end, hit pause, so it will wind down. whilst doing this, also fun to start reducing the time parameter of the transform effect, so it begins to cut quicker and quicker.
have fun.
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