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if you don't keep on producing and ask for constructive feedback you won't continue to grow. congrats.

Credit due for your reactions mate, however...

...I still don't find your track to be all that great...

If you would like us to hear the full version:

www.yousendit.com

you can upload upto a GB...so get uploading and post a link ASAP

Shep

thanks for the yousendit link Shepless! sorry it has taken me so long. I have a 56k at home so I had to find a faster connection. Here's the URL to download:

edit: URL expired

ANY comments are welcome. Anything that would help me produce better would be great! If you like the song, please support the record label and buy the CD "osmotic pressure" comming out in a few weeks. You can get it here through lowroof/deepsink records and there are much more experienced producers on there than me!

http://www.lowroof.nl

I really had expected more, it sounds like cheap computer game music



Sorry, this track is ultra cheesy, nothing original, perhaps the structure is a little bit unconventional

And I won't buy the "osmotic pressure" CD btw.

Interesting bunch of ideas, but poorly produced.
Just keep practising - you aren't label material yet, that's for sure. But you'll get there eventually.

it might sound cheesy cause I was going for the classic rave sound. Do you think achieved that?

what is it that makes it poorly produced? How can I improve?

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Originally posted by Adambomb337 it might sound cheesy cause I was going for the classic rave sound. Do you think achieved that?

No.

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what is it that makes it poorly produced? How can I improve?

I think as mentioned previously, it sounds like video game music. The reason for this is that the melodies are very "bleepy" and "happy". Everything sounds too "clean". It's too weak.

I think perhaps your ideas could be adapted to achieve a "classic rave sound". For that however, you really need to beef up the energy levels. Layer percussions, give the track some drive, some danceability.

Am I actually listening to the right thing here? Because bar the start of the clip the only percussion I could make out was a bassdrum, I think. :/

Geez they still release old tracker music??

If you're trying to go for a trance release in this day of age, then yes it is poorly produced.. If you're making music releases for old mod-tracker geeks, then it's cool.

yeah you need a real kick if you want it to sound good for today.. try layering a higher end kick ontop of what you have, and make sure you filter propperly... the the resonance on that little hooveresque sound is quite annoying might wanna turn it down...

and the melody is so cheeeeeesey... The lack of percussion like MK-S stated, adds to the cheeseyness... and if you do add some good beefy percs it'll start sounding like a pro trance production and not like a fasttracker competition entry. It sounds like you're trying to achieve a happy trance sound like Cosmicman... It you havent heard of Cosmicman or Sundawner, you should check him out and try to make a track more in that ballpark. It's happy, silly trance music, but excellent production and totally danceable.

Seriously, I don't know what kind of candy those ravers who signed your tune are on... This is perfectly fine for a MOD tracker competition, but not for vynil release.

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Originally posted by Trancevision I really had expected more, it sounds like cheap computer game music Sorry, this track is ultra cheesy, nothing original, perhaps the structure is a little bit unconventional And I won't buy the "osmotic pressure" CD btw.

lol omg that's a seriously funny emoticon.

Yeah...the song isnt so great, but the ending is quite cool. I actually liked the computerey blipps and the melody in the last 30 seconds...too bad the track wasnt more like that.

Keep up tho bro!

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Originally posted by Jay M Hm I'm wondering what arguments this company has on signing this. And the Osmotic Wave "all christian" policy gives me the creeps. And I don't like the track either. Poor mixing and the buildup is even worse. I'd suggest just posting the name of the track as thread title in stead of "accepted by record company".

oh shit? is this really a Christian label? No wonder they signed your music! You probably told them you were glorifying God in the process of making this track or how God showed you a revelation that you had to become a DJ to save millions of lost souls. And there were actually losing songs in this competition? What was the criteria to win? whoever loved Jesus more?

Seriously, you Christian dudes have to stop this crap! Just because the song was made with the intent to glorify the lord, doesnt mean your song is any good! This is exactly the kind of bullshit I was talking about in the last Christian track post. You guys are making yourselves look like morons! If you want people to take Christians seriously, it's about time you start acting more realistic, and start realizing this is crappy music and there is good music (even tho opinions and musical tastes slightly differ... facts are facts and a track that is produced well is notable from a poorly produced track).

If I were God and heard that you were trying to praise me with this shit, I'd strike a lightning bolt. You (and your label) are no better than Cain, from the Bible, who gave God the halfassed sacrifice.

oy... here we go!

can't wait for the flame wars

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Originally posted by Massive84 I didn't check the tune , but just because someone said hear my track because it got signed it gets 10 replies in 1 day!!

this thread should have been removed for such a title

however, Adambomb337, much respect for your positive attitude. But you have to keep in mind that a big number of members on this forum are signed artists and MANY MANY big name artists come from TA. So posting a thread with a title like "I'm Signed. I Are Teh Awesome" isn't really going to help you.

Instead, it's gonna generate some pretty negative opinions.


As for the song, I have nothing to say that hasn't already been said. Keep working, don't let the a record deal inflate your ego too much.

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Originally posted by nhibberd Depens on which record company. I once found a record company a friend sead I would easily get into. Went to their site and found out they had accepted about 10.000 producers, half of wich were total crap. I'd rather have to try a bit harder for a label at Black Hole or Byte records than to sign for these guys. My advice would be to produce, produce, produce, produce, produce, produce, produce.... I once spent 30 hours a week producing for about 6 months and learnt so much! Anyway, keep going as you are, musicaly it's not all that bad at all. Check me out on the following link. http://www.soundclick.com/bands/5/theorigin_music.htm

Word!

That is what I've been doing in the last 12 months, produce and produce and learn every time I make a new song, most of the older ones are crap, but by that time I was learning something I didn't know. I'm even considering remaking the ones that have a nice melody.

As for the track, didn't like this either, it feels sooo empty, and even more for the fact that I produce tracks that are really full.

Congrats for your signing, if that is true.

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Originally posted by EtherealSL this thread should have been removed for such a title however, Adambomb337, much respect for your positive attitude. But you have to keep in mind that a big number of members on this forum are signed artists and MANY MANY big name artists come from TA. So posting a thread with a title like "I'm Signed. I Are Teh Awesome" isn't really going to help you. Instead, it's gonna generate some pretty negative opinions. As for the song, I have nothing to say that hasn't already been said. Keep working, don't let the a record deal inflate your ego too much.

heh :P did you read my post about Christian labels? They'll sign anything that has a God-attitude. Bragging about signing to a Christian label is like bragging that your music got airplay on college radio... college radio has been known toplay utter crap (and obviously some good music, but there is very little to no criteria music has to meet to be on college radio).. I even heard a song made from armpit farts on the college radio.

trancevision - thanks for the feed back. I love that smily lol!

MK-S - thanks! I'll try that next time. For this song, I left out a lot of the percussion on purpose to give it a different feel.

gerrycueto - thanks for the feedback, I really appreciate it

Digital Aura - thanks bro! that means a lot! I'm glad you at least enjoyed some of it The hardcore people actually had a much better response to this track. I'm thinking of making a hardcore remix. I think the problem is that it barely crosses the line into trance...

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gerrycueto wrote: oh shit? is this really a Christian label? No wonder they signed your music! You probably told them you were glorifying God in the process of making this track or how God showed you a revelation that you had to become a DJ to save millions of lost souls. And there were actually losing songs in this competition? What was the criteria to win? whoever loved Jesus more? Seriously, you Christian dudes have to stop this crap! Just because the song was made with the intent to glorify the lord, doesnt mean your song is any good! This is exactly the kind of bullshit I was talking about in the last Christian track post. You guys are making yourselves look like morons! If you want people to take Christians seriously, it's about time you start acting more realistic, and start realizing this is crappy music and there is good music (even tho opinions and musical tastes slightly differ... facts are facts and a track that is produced well is notable from a poorly produced track). If I were God and heard that you were trying to praise me with this shit, I'd strike a lightning bolt. You (and your label) are no better than Cain, from the Bible, who gave God the halfassed sacrifice.

I don't understand your extreme cynicism and faulty labeling...
I hope you have a better day...

EtherealSL - That's great there are so many professional producers here who are humble enough to help us newbs out! Thanks for the feedback and encouragement

PDM - thanks for the kind words. I gotta check out your music sometime when I can get on a faster connection

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gerrycueto wrote: heh :P did you read my post about Christian labels? They'll sign anything that has a God-attitude. Bragging about signing to a Christian label is like bragging that your music got airplay on college radio... college radio has been known toplay utter crap (and obviously some good music, but there is very little to no criteria music has to meet to be on college radio).. I even heard a song made from armpit farts on the college radio.

You're really hammering this in... I'm not bragging, and I'm not signed. It was a contest I won. There is a lack of chrisitans who produce music so you may be right about them signing almost anyone. I agree with your view on college radio too but you can get a lot of cool ideas from their creativity! You have to hand it to them for trying stuff that no one else would... maybe they'll come up with the next genre trend...

Well everything regarding the track I wanted to say has been said, plus I gave you a pretty quick review of what may have been left on page 3, so it's not like I'm a 100% cynical bastard. I just make observations. I know all Christian music doesn't suck.. that's why there's good bands like Relient K, Switchfoot, Krystal Meyers, ect... but most of it does. Most if it is well produced, but the themes talked about in the songs and the moronically superhappy fanfares make it totally unappealing to one who doesn't go to church. The above bands I mentioned who are good Christian bands don't have every song going "Jesus I love you... praise the name almighty... halleluja he is risen"... they talk about struggles of life, problems with society, solutions for society, how they found God, anything other than the same old crap you hear in church, not to mention how boring it is.

So if I came off as making a stereotype, then forgive me... but seriously this garbage has got to stop! It's making Christians look like mindless people with no lives what-so-ever.

As far as Christian electronic music goes, it's probably the worst out of all christian genres. Like I said in Digital Aura's post, there is no drive to produce quality. Anything with made in God's name, gets the deal.

I'm actually trying to offer you guys help here, I know I may come off rude, but I can't help noticing how lame Christians are becoming.

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Originally posted by gerrycueto If I were God and heard that you were trying to praise me with this shit, I'd strike a lightning bolt. You (and your label) are no better than Cain, from the Bible, who gave God the halfassed sacrifice.

OMG!!!

yeah that's a pretty powerful quote right there. it hits me hard, but makes me laugh at the same time.

In all seriousness, I heard the track as well, and I wasn't surprised. Just as previously stated, when someone puts up a title thread like that, it just screams "Look at me! I'm pro now! My track is GOOD, no if ands or butts about it!" But you did say you didn't intend on making it seem that way. Tip: Next time, just post up a simple thread, "New track, check it out guys". It somehow grabs more people's attention more so than "NEW TRACK! RECORD LABEL DEAL!", you know what I mean.

Although I never spend much time getting into flame wars, or even bothering (I see it as pointless sometimes), this one just caught my eye. My recommendation, keep producing, don't let this "label" get to your head, and as someone else stated, always keep progressing with your sound. Be diverse with your music, aim for different sounds, but the key is produce produce produce. If a label sees that you can't keep up with the times, and just sticking to the same old sounds, then how do you expect your music to sell? You have to be able to show the label different sides of your music and sound all the time. Well, heh, not THIS label you're signed with anyway, they seem to be accepting anything remotely related to christian belief, no matter how bad* it is :P.

There's nothing wrong with this tune. very good overalltrack!
But, it sounds a bit old. It could have been taken from an old ravemission or trancemaster(for example) from 1994 or 1995.

Keep it up!


/Moolow

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Originally posted by Axolotyl OMG!!!

lol okay maybe I shouldn't have said that, but at the time I was pretty aggrevated. Oh well I'll leave it there for comedy's sake.

many people say, the truth comes out in times of anger :P

lol for comedy's sake *dies laughing*

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Originally posted by Nullistic Tip: Next time, just post up a simple thread, "New track, check it out guys". It somehow grabs more people's attention more so than "NEW TRACK! RECORD LABEL DEAL!", you know what I mean.

I disagree with you completely. In fact, I disagree with you so much that if there were any more disagreement, I'd explode. You're actually telling him that if he had posted a simple "check out my tune" thread he would have gotten more response?

Be serious. There are tons of tracks like this posted on TA, but with a humble post "Please check out my track and let me know what you think thx" that get absolutely little to no attention. Then when mr pompous up the ass comes along, people get turned off by his big pompus personality and so they start flamewars... giving the track far more attention than all the others posted. HELL!!! this track got so much attention that even MK-S posted a review. You don't get people like MK-S reviewing every track that's on here.

I'm not endorsing you guys go out and post pompous crap to promote your track, but you have to admit that the threads that get the most attention are those created by moronic people. They know what they're doing isn't cool, and they're smart in a way... They're trying to get attention.. and they're good at it. Trust me.. had this been a humble "check out my track" post, I wouldn't have even bothered to click on it.

I agree that it caused ATTENTION, but not the RIGHT kind of attention this guy wanted, BECAUSE of the way he said it.

He caused the wrong kind of attention to himself, granted it attracted many people to the forum, but so what? The tune sucked, they posetd their comment, the track got a few listeners, doesn't mean it's changed the world cause they heard it.

Posting a "hey guys, new track" may not lead as many people in, but the ones that do come in, will usually leave a significant and valuable opinion to your post.

A remedy would be to meet in the middle of "new track, check it out" and the exact opposite. Somewhere between the two, would work perfectly.

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From what you're saying, and i'm being serious, I guess we should just do the "moronic" thing, and post pompous, misleading, false information to lure people on to our threads as well then. Hey, if it grabs attention, then I guess that's what we need, don't we.

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