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Originally posted by butterfly people try to push god on me more than i would like and i dont know if there is anything that offends me more.

+1. i'm all for religion and i think its a great thing, but i'm not religious at all and therefore cannot stand when someone pushes their beliefs on me. thats the ONLY thing that really gets to me and actually turns me off to religion more than anything else.

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Originally posted by *InVeRs3* Religions don't start wars. Stupid people and propoganda do.

Religious beliefs do. Half the wars in world history probably had religious motives

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Originally posted by Slylee my f'n mother..i swear. ok she just found out that my uncle's wife is an athiest and she's freaking out because my little cousin (he's like 3) isn't going to have "God" in his life and she just went on and on about how it's "WRONG" and "he needs to be brought up with some sort of belief system BLA BLA BLA BLA" which, i'm not saying i disagree with, but it's NOT HER KID, it's her nephew, and it's my UNCLE'S job to try to work something out with HIS WIFE and HIS SON... i mean am i right or am i right? god, she fucking thinks everyone in the world has to see things her way or they're wrong.

you should be like...

"well mom, you fucked up on me...so who are you to tell anyone how to raise their kid"

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Originally posted by *InVeRs3* Of course, not all Christians are blind or close minded. And what's so stupid about religion? Is it bad to promote peace? And no. Religions don't start wars. Stupid people and propoganda do.

religion does not equal peace. some religions are designed to promote peace but most have been warped so that they represent different things. i dont have a problem with good people but the idea that you have to believe in a higher power in order to be able to be a good person is rediculous, IMO.

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Originally posted by Floorfiller you should be like... "well mom, you fucked up on me...so who are you to tell anyone how to raise their kid"

Very self-deprecating of you slylee

Yes...Religions do promote peace...fuckin hell...

Homosexuals should burn in hell = peace
Priests molesting kids = peace
Africans don't get condoms because abstinence is better = peace
If you dont accept Jesus Christ as your saviour you will burn in hell = peace
Follow the Koran or you are an infidel = peace
Israel belongs to the jews because it is their "holy land" = peace



give me a fucking break...

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Originally posted by Slylee my f'n mother..i swear. ok she just found out that my uncle's wife is an athiest and she's freaking out because my little cousin (he's like 3) isn't going to have "God" in his life and she just went on and on about how it's "WRONG" and "he needs to be brought up with some sort of belief system BLA BLA BLA BLA" which, i'm not saying i disagree with, but it's NOT HER KID, it's her nephew, and it's my UNCLE'S job to try to work something out with HIS WIFE and HIS SON... i mean am i right or am i right? god, she fucking thinks everyone in the world has to see things her way or they're wrong.

She should stay out of other peoples lives and let them raise their child the best way they feel fit. Personally, I believe that people who need to have "God" as a major part of their life and rely on religion to tell them what to do are weak minded individuals and should be banished from this planet.

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Originally posted by *InVeRs3* Of course, not all Christians are blind or close minded. And what's so stupid about religion? Is it bad to promote peace? And no. Religions don't start wars. Stupid people and propoganda do.

hmm. so many ways i could affably disagree with you. i do agree that stupid people and propaganda can create war, but smart people in powerful places combined with mass belief and devoted following (or just plain fear) can also create wars. big ones.

in too many cases the principles and morals embraced fundamentally in almost all mass religions have been completely warped or eclipsed by misinterpretation (intentional or otherwise), and with mass followings come the potential for mass destruction.

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Originally posted by butterfly religion does not equal peace. some religions are designed to promote peace but most have been warped so that they represent different things. i dont have a problem with good people but the idea that you have to believe in a higher power in order to be able to be a good person is rediculous, IMO.

Thaaaank you.

The problem with religion is you are categorizing yourself and others...once that happens there is bound to be conflict...

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Originally posted by *InVeRs3* Of course, not all Christians are blind or close minded. And what's so stupid about religion? Is it bad to promote peace? And no. Religions don't start wars. Stupid people and propoganda do.

religion doesn't promote peAce lmao

what about satanism? *which isn't about hurting people* but still, that is a religion.


and sayin stupid people and propoganda starts wars.....meh.
a lot of wars are based on religion.

im not going to get into this.

it's all a matter of perspective.

i just think religion separates moreso than brings people together.

i hate religion, i think it's dumb, and i want no part of it.

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Originally posted by *InVeRs3* And no. Religions don't start wars.

This is a bit of a silly thing to say. When it really boils down to it, a lot (not all) of wars that began, started because of religion or a religious issue.

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Originally posted by Mr. Pink religion doesn't promote peAce lmao what about satanism? *which isn't about hurting people* but still, that is a religion. and sayin stupid people and propoganda starts wars.....meh. a lot of wars are based on religion. im not going to get into this. it's all a matter of perspective. i just think religion separates moreso than brings people together. i hate religion, i think it's dumb, and i want no part of it.

Werd...I'm outta this thread too...

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Originally posted by M@t It would be interesting to compare the crime statistics between a country where religious beliefs are commonplace, and one where there is little Im not inferring anything, just wondering

Yea I agree. Trust me, I�m not an atheist�but I get REALLY get annoyed by atheists who get so damn defensive when you even bring up the topic of religion..it�s like frickin calm down, no one is pushing their views on you, relax.

My mom thinks most (not ALL) atheists have no god in their life to not have guilt for their actions or what they chose to do with themselves�I kind of agree, but again, this depends on the individual and she agrees with that too.

I also agree with Inverse�s post about religion being harmless�obviously I�m not talking about the extremes here�but I mean what�s wrong with following a belief system that promotes all good things in life such as forgiveness, acceptance, peace, etc�.


NO! DAMNIT U CANT MAKE ME BE A GOOD PERSON! lol


pink, ur forgiven i thought that was a bit out of character for you to just attack my mother, but ok, i guess u didn't realize i was talking about her...so that's cool.

Being a proud atheist myself, I believe that your mother has no right what so ever interfering with the raising of a child that is not hers.

By the way, why don't we let kids decide for themselves whether they want to believe in something or not? Religion is one of the foremost causes of todays problems in the world. Let kids decide on their own whether they want to believe or not instead of, what i'd like to call it, brainwashing them from the moment they are born. Brainwashing kids doesn't exactly bring solutions to forms of religious conflicts.

Religion is an old concept. It's roots lie in the Dark Ages and it was used as a weapon to strike fear in the hearts of the population. To control the people so to speak. No offense if you believe in some kind of God, but i think the idea of religion is outdated. I have no place for a God in my life. Faith is in your own heart, your inner strenght.

Just my 2 cents n-e-way.

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Originally posted by Mr. Pink religion doesn't promote peAce lmao what about satanism? *which isn't about hurting people* but still, that is a religion. and sayin stupid people and propoganda starts wars.....meh. a lot of wars are based on religion. im not going to get into this. it's all a matter of perspective. i just think religion separates moreso than brings people together. i hate religion, i think it's dumb, and i want no part of it.

Satanism doesn't promote peace or war. It just admires the darkness that's in humans, and their filthy elitism.

A lot of wars aren't based on religions. A lot of wars are made by fat cat kings who aren't even religious themselves.

As for religion separating more than bringing people together, you are right, i'm not going to disagree. But I do think people have to keep an open mind. I am a christian and if I were to marry a person who isn't a christian and is another religon I would do it. Because we don't know what's going to happen in this world when we die, and no God is here right now at this moment helping us, we humans help ourselves. And no, it's not a sin for me a christian to marry someone else of another religion, because I don't think it's a sin, I went to Catholic school and I can confirm that shit 100%.

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Originally posted by Slylee Yea I agree. Trust me, I�m not an atheist�but I get REALLY get annoyed by atheists who get so damn defensive when you even bring up the topic of religion..it�s like frickin calm down, no one is pushing their views on you, relax.

normally i could understand where you are coming from, it's just that 50% of the time, they ARE pushing their beliefs on me. and that makes me defensive all the time.

As long as you feel you are a good person of morale and character, who needs a belief? If you do, great, if you don't, great too.

People like that usually have skeletons in their own closet and have to have a belief/faith to feel better about themselves.

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Originally posted by AirPole Being a proud atheist myself, I believe that your mother has no right what so ever interfering with the raising of a child that is not hers. By the way, why don't we let kids decide for themselves whether they want to believe in something or not? Religion is one of the foremost causes of todays problems in the world. Let kids decide on their own whether they want to believe or not instead of, what i'd like to call it, brainwashing them from the moment they are born. Brainwashing kids doesn't exactly bring solutions to forms of religious conflicts. Religion is an old concept. It's roots lie in the Dark Ages and it was used as a weapon to strike fear in the hearts of the population. To control the people so to speak. No offense if you believe in some kind of God, but i think the idea of religion is outdated. I have no place for a God in my life. Faith is in your own heart, your inner strenght. Just my 2 cents n-e-way.

my mom just thinks it's important to at least introduce the child to some form of religion so that he is at least exposed to it...then later on he can make a decision and she would accept it.

i agree with that totally....once again people, i'm not disagreeing with my mom when she thinks it's kind of sad that my cousin is just going to be raised with no religion or KNOWLEDGE of it whatsoever...i disagree that she is butting in...

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Originally posted by Slylee my mom just thinks it's important to at least introduce the child to some form of religion so that he is at least exposed to it...then later on he can make a decision and she would accept it. i agree with that totally....once again people, i'm not disagreeing with my mom when she thinks it's kind of sad that my cousin is just going to be raised with no religion or KNOWLEDGE of it whatsoever...i disagree that she is butting in...

see when you put it that way, i agree with you. but learning what religions are out there and practicing are two different things. i also think a child should have an understanding of both eastern and western religions, not just the ones that stemmed from judaism.

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Originally posted by KarenLuvs2Party As long as you feel you are a good person of morale and character, who needs a belief? If you do, great, if you don't, great too. People like that usually have skeletons in their own closet and have to have a belief/faith to feel better about themselves.

Exactly how I feel. I mean,

DO YOU HONESTLY THINK THAT A LOVING GOD WILL CONDEMN YOU IF YOU DON'T BELIEVE IN HIM?

C'mon people use reason and logic (no pun intended).

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Originally posted by butterfly see when you put it that way, i agree with you. but learning what religions are out there and practicing are two different things. i also think a child should have an understanding of both eastern and western religions, not just the ones that stemmed from judaism.

+1

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Originally posted by Slylee my mom just thinks it's important to at least introduce the child to some form of religion so that he is at least exposed to it...then later on he can make a decision and she would accept it. i agree with that totally....once again people, i'm not disagreeing with my mom when she thinks it's kind of sad that my cousin is just going to be raised with no religion or KNOWLEDGE of it whatsoever...i disagree that she is butting in...

He'll get enough of it from our damn president and the retards on the News.

I respect everyones beliefs, but our country is getting waayyyyyyyyyy too christianated these days...

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Originally posted by Clovis86 Yes...Religions do promote peace...fuckin hell... Homosexuals should burn in hell = peace Priests molesting kids = peace Africans don't get condoms because abstinence is better = peace If you dont accept Jesus Christ as your saviour you will burn in hell = peace Follow the Koran or you are an infidel = peace Israel belongs to the jews because it is their "holy land" = peace give me a fucking break...

nicely put man...

Was the thread title supposed to be a pun slylee?

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Originally posted by *InVeRs3* A lot of wars aren't based on religions. A lot of wars are made by fat cat kings who aren't even religious themselves.

this is a broad generalization, but i would guess most wars are about power and religion has historically played a role that leveraged a lot of power so it was thus used as a tool to start wars.

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