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Posted by igottaknow on Jun-26-2005 15:46:

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CRUISE: ...I know that-- psychiatry is-- is a pseudo science.

Where as SCIENTOLOGY is a true science?


Posted by igottaknow on Jun-26-2005 16:09:

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Originally posted by josh4
i wish Lauer knew more about the story of scientology. i'd like to see cruse answer a few questions about that!
would have only resulted in more matt, matt, matt...

http://www.scientology-lies.com/faq...tom-cruise.html


Posted by Floorfiller on Jun-26-2005 16:24:

boy that was really unimpressive. he really comes off as arrogant...


Posted by igottaknow on Jun-26-2005 16:29:

he should have just clammed up like in that interview scene in Magnolia


Posted by metalgearsolid on Jun-26-2005 16:34:

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Originally posted by retrobyte
I think Tom Cruise is a clinically insane closet case. I can't stand his constant preaching and I'm convinced that this shit with Kate Holmes is a big publicity stunt. I can't stand him

dude tom criuse is gay. he wont say it because apparently that will make him less profitable. That katie holmes yes was a publicity stunt since batman begins was coming out.


Posted by dartrance on Jun-26-2005 16:46:

Tom is a very smart individual who does not confine to the norms


Matt got absolutely destroyed on the issue. Bottom line


Posted by mezzir on Jun-26-2005 16:51:

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Originally posted by dartrance
Tom is a very smart individual who does not confine to the norms


Matt got absolutely destroyed on the issue. Bottom line

i'd disagree with that bottom line
yes, tom cruise took control of the interview like a crazy man, but when matt would try to bring up a valid point, tom cruise would just shush him, and say either 'i'm just living my life' or 'i know the history of psychology, matt, YOU DONT'
cruise didn't really answer any questions


Posted by M@t on Jun-26-2005 16:52:

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Originally posted by dartrance
Matt got absolutely destroyed on the issue. Bottom line


did he bollocks
cruise wouldnt even argue the issue, he just kept arguing lauer's ignorance


Posted by Floorfiller on Jun-26-2005 16:59:

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Originally posted by M@t
did he bollocks
cruise wouldnt even argue the issue, he just kept arguing lauer's ignorance


exaclty...

he was there with such an attitude of superiority and arrogance that he wouldn't even argue the point because in his mind, there was no argument and he was 100% right. now that doesn't sound so intelligent to me...i definitely have my own opinions, but i think i usually try to listen to both sides of it and then build my argument accordingly...but Tom just didn't want to hear it because obviously he is the smartest man in the world


Posted by metalgearsolid on Jun-26-2005 17:02:

tom is so stupid honeslty all that $ and attention he gets for being "sexy" has gone to his head he seriously believes he is superior compare to psychiatrist and other scientists ppl who worked hard in their fields and know a lot more than tom criuse.


Posted by Estella on Jun-26-2005 17:55:

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Originally posted by Floorfiller
exaclty...

he was there with such an attitude of superiority and arrogance that he wouldn't even argue the point because in his mind, there was no argument and he was 100% right. now that doesn't sound so intelligent to me...i definitely have my own opinions, but i think i usually try to listen to both sides of it and then build my argument accordingly...but Tom just didn't want to hear it because obviously he is the smartest man in the world


Agreed. I would have definitely found other means of displaying my argument. But then, it's so refreshing to find someone some so passionate about something. I'm not use to seeing others express their views so strongly, so maybe when I finally do see these things (sad that it has to be on TV) they are really just minute? Ok, now, he did seem like to have a bit of a Napolean complex.




I do agree with his thinking. I had to write a paper in Sociology and i researched all these drugs names, made a 2 page list, from Oxy, Valium, Paxil, Prozac, Rit, Perk etc. on and on and then boldly stated, "America's new gumdrop." I think our mentality as Americans is, "I don't feel chirpy, happy (as society expects me to be), something MUST be wrong." in which we procede to the pharmacy in hopes that a pill will compensate. Cos damnit, if we aren't laughing out asses off, smiling, flirting, flipping our hair as we see on the latest episode of Friends, we are in a state of mild depression; which increasingly to me seems like the new common cold.

I don't know. I'm torn. I can see validity in both sides. I remember H.S. friends snorting Ritalin for a high, while someone all too close to me was taking it deter hyperactivity. If it works for that person of the latter in terms of coping, it IS valid, isn't it? I don't know.


Edit* I would love to further research aspects of Scientology, but with spokemen such as Tom Cruise, John Travolta, Katie Holmes? hahaah. Seems like a bit of a marketing technique to me. I've yet to see ONE, working member of the common middle class speak of this psuedo-science.


Posted by Allied Nations on Jun-26-2005 17:59:

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Originally posted by Estella
Agreed. I would have definitely found other means of displaying my argument. But then, it's so refreshing to find someone some so passionate about something. I'm not use to seeing others express their views so strongly, so maybe when I finally do see these things (sad that it has to be on TV) they are really just minute? Ok, now, he did seem like to have a bit of a Napolean complex.




I do agree with his thinking. I had to write a paper in Sociology and i researched all these drugs names, made a 2 page list, from Oxy, Valium, Paxil, Prozac, Rit, Perk etc. on and on and then boldly stated, "America's new gumdrop." I think our mentality as Americans is, "I don't feel chirpy, happy (as society expects me to be), something MUST be wrong." in which we procede to the pharmacy in hopes that a pill will compensate. Cos damnit, if we aren't laughing out asses off, smiling, flirting, flipping our hair as we see on the latest episode of Friends, we are in a state of mild depression; which increasingly to me seems like the new common cold.

I don't know. I'm torn. I can see validity in both sides. I remember H.S. friends snorting Ritalin for a high, while someone all too close to me was taking it deter hyperactivity. If it works for that person of the latter in terms of coping, it IS valid, is it now? I don't know.


Edit* I would love to further research aspects of Scientology, but with spokemen such as Tom Cruise, John Travolta, Katie Holmes? hahaah. Seems like a bit of a marketing technique to me. I've yet to see ONE, working, common, middle class person speak of Scientology.


good post.


Posted by M@t on Jun-26-2005 18:04:

quote:
Originally posted by Estella
I do agree with his thinking. I had to write a paper in Sociology and i researched all these drugs names, made a 2 page list, from Oxy, Valium, Paxil, Prozac, Rit, Perk etc. on and on and then boldly stated, "America's new gumdrop." I think our mentality as Americans is, "I don't feel chirpy, happy (as society expects me to be), something MUST be wrong." in which we procede to the pharmacy in hopes that a pill will compensate. Cos damnit, if we aren't laughing out asses off, smiling, flirting, flipping our hair as we see on the latest episode of Friends, we are in a state of mild depression; which increasingly to me seems like the new common cold.


I agree this is true, its the same over here

But Cruise is clearly denying the benefits of antidepressants in any scenarios, and also saying there's no such thing as a chemical imbalance, when clearly if he knew anything about science he would know the whole body is made up of chemicals, balanced or not, and that depression at a physiological/chemical level is due to his "chemical imbalances"


Posted by mezzir on Jun-26-2005 18:23:

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Originally posted by M@t
I agree this is true, its the same over here

But Cruise is clearly denying the benefits of antidepressants in any scenarios, and also saying there's no such thing as a chemical imbalance, when clearly if he knew anything about science he would know the whole body is made up of chemicals, balanced or not, and that depression at a physiological/chemical level is due to his "chemical imbalances"

yeah considering the fact that i have a chemical imbalance, the whole thing sounded like BS to me


Posted by Estella on Jun-26-2005 20:19:

quote:
Originally posted by M@t
I agree this is true, its the same over here

But Cruise is clearly denying the benefits of antidepressants in any scenarios, and also saying there's no such thing as a chemical imbalance, when clearly if he knew anything about science he would know the whole body is made up of chemicals, balanced or not, and that depression at a physiological/chemical level is due to his "chemical imbalances"


Yeah, I believe he went even went to the extreme in saying "they didn't exist."


Posted by gmoney on Jun-26-2005 20:38:

If Tom Cruise doesn't believe there is such a thing as a chemical imbalance then he should check himself into a mental hospital and spend a week sorrounded by 20 paranoid schzophrenics. I think he might change his mind afterwards.


Posted by jonze on Jun-26-2005 20:59:

his role in Vanilla Sky somewhat contradicts his belief system.


Posted by Xenocreator_PG_ on Jun-26-2005 20:59:

quote:
Originally posted by Estella
Agreed. I would have definitely found other means of displaying my argument. But then, it's so refreshing to find someone some so passionate about something. I'm not use to seeing others express their views so strongly, so maybe when I finally do see these things (sad that it has to be on TV) they are really just minute? Ok, now, he did seem like to have a bit of a Napolean complex.


I do agree with his thinking. I had to write a paper in Sociology and i researched all these drugs names, made a 2 page list, from Oxy, Valium, Paxil, Prozac, Rit, Perk etc. on and on and then boldly stated, "America's new gumdrop." I think our mentality as Americans is, "I don't feel chirpy, happy (as society expects me to be), something MUST be wrong." in which we procede to the pharmacy in hopes that a pill will compensate. Cos damnit, if we aren't laughing out asses off, smiling, flirting, flipping our hair as we see on the latest episode of Friends, we are in a state of mild depression; which increasingly to me seems like the new common cold.

I don't know. I'm torn. I can see validity in both sides. I remember H.S. friends snorting Ritalin for a high, while someone all too close to me was taking it deter hyperactivity. If it works for that person of the latter in terms of coping, it IS valid, isn't it? I don't know.


Edit* I would love to further research aspects of Scientology, but with spokemen such as Tom Cruise, John Travolta, Katie Holmes? hahaah. Seems like a bit of a marketing technique to me. I've yet to see ONE, working member of the common middle class speak of this psuedo-science.


good post.

Tom does have a good point, though he really needs to improve his communictiaion skills & maybe do a coarse in 'Plain English'. It is obvious that he struggles to express himself.


Posted by Orbax on Jun-27-2005 01:54:

if someone used my name that many times in a conversation id punch them in the face.


Posted by Xenocreator_PG_ on Jun-27-2005 02:38:

Your wish is my command!! *pooof*

Orbax
quote:
Originally posted by Orbax
if someone

Don't Orbax
quote:
Originally posted by Orbax
used my name

Orbax Im asking you a question Orbax
quote:
Originally posted by Orbax
that many times

Orbax Orbax Orbax - Orbax - Orbax
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Originally posted by Orbax
in a conversation

You're talking about two different things orbax
quote:
Originally posted by Orbax
id punch

No No Orbax
quote:
Originally posted by Orbax
them in the

Orbax--
quote:
Originally posted by Orbax
face.

I'm passionate about learning. I'm passionate about life, Orbax.


Posted by squirrelly on Jun-27-2005 03:13:

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Originally posted by Estella
I've yet to see ONE, working member of the common middle class speak of this psuedo-science.


I can introduce you to a few


Posted by wwu.punisher on Jun-27-2005 03:43:

Here's what this whole incident boils down to.

Tom Cruise is nuttier than squirrel shit. Regardless of whether or not he's done a few decent movies... he's a fucking nutter. He doesn't believe in psychiatry because he thinks he's some sort of intellectual that can self-medicate and tap into his chee or whatever the fuck his scientologist friends tell him he can do.

I, for one, would lock the nutball up and throw away the key considering how he's been ranting and raving all over television in recent months.

And he knows shit about psychology and psychiatry. That's obvious from the way he was attacking both fields in the interview.


Posted by igottaknow on Jun-27-2005 03:53:

quote:
Originally posted by wwu.punisher
Here's what this whole incident boils down to.

Tom Cruise is nuttier than squirrel shit. Regardless of whether or not he's done a few decent movies... he's a fucking nutter. He doesn't believe in psychiatry because he thinks he's some sort of intellectual that can self-medicate and tap into his chee or whatever the fuck his scientologist friends tell him he can do.

I, for one, would lock the nutball up and throw away the key considering how he's been ranting and raving all over television in recent months.

And he knows shit about psychology and psychiatry. That's obvious from the way he was attacking both fields in the interview.

Deep down inside he knows he's a nut case so he fears a psychiatrist would send him off to a nut house or medicate his ass.


Posted by Tranceplant on Jun-27-2005 04:20:

quote:
Originally posted by wwu.punisher
Here's what this whole incident boils down to.

Tom Cruise is nuttier than squirrel shit. Regardless of whether or not he's done a few decent movies... he's a fucking nutter. He doesn't believe in psychiatry because he thinks he's some sort of intellectual that can self-medicate and tap into his chee or whatever the fuck his scientologist friends tell him he can do.

I, for one, would lock the nutball up and throw away the key considering how he's been ranting and raving all over television in recent months.

And he knows shit about psychology and psychiatry. That's obvious from the way he was attacking both fields in the interview.


No, you see. Here's the problem. You don't know the history of psychiatry. I do.


Posted by wwu.punisher on Jun-27-2005 04:37:

quote:
Originally posted by Tranceplant
No, you see. Here's the problem. You don't know the history of psychiatry. I do.


Haha. I hope that was a joke...


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