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iv only even been dissapointed in Tiesto once... and that was due to a technical dificulty at global gathering....

other than that he has absolutly blew the place away whenever i have seen him, his 3 hour set at the Passion Birthday was unbeatable,

he has done more for trance than most DJs,

being the best DJ isnt all about how u mix

all the people who constatly slate him are just childish fools IMO nobody should get so much shit just because they are no.1

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Originally posted by Guerrilla But what I most do not like about Paul Van Dyk is his fucked up attitude toward the crowd and other DJ's.

Agreed. PvD is my number 1 for productions, and his setlists are usually quite good, but he just lacks any emotion from what I've seen. He seems so moody and miserable. Does he not get along with any DJs at all, and he is just bitter about not being number 1?

I am however, mesmorised by Tiesto's performance in the TIC 2 DVD. He's an absolute genius at crowd interaction and is mixing wasn't at all bad either! People saying he went downhill from 2000, I just think is tripe. Sure, he may not have been playing well recently, but I think alot of it is down to taste and style of DJing. Just because I don't like Zabiela's obsession with technical ability, doesn't mean he's a bad DJ.

For DJs being moody, they surely must have off days like the rest of us. It's their job to DJ, not a party. I think sometimes people forget that when they turn up stoned out their heads to ask for an autograph.

I'd be offended if someone came up with their own record and asked me to play it (unless I wanted to). It's in effect saying "I think what you're playing tonight is cr*p, play this instead".

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he has done more for trance than most DJs... all the people who constatly slate him are just childish fools IMO nobody should get so much shit just because they are no.1

Completely agree...

Iv spoke to quite a few Djs

Matt Hardwick is such a nice guy, he actually came over to me an said he recognised me from somwer, i was quite flattered. Lisa Lashes is sooo nice aswell.

Ferry an armin are also both nice lads, as is MIKE, John O Callahagn, Judge Jules and 1 of the guys from rank 1

PVD tends to look miserable while DJing

but when he played at cream not so long ago he was wasted, he was actually jumping up and down in the background while NU NRG wer on..

then in his set he was goin over to the crowd to read msgs on ppl phones taht they wer tryin to show him, seemd so happy and bouncy then, but thats the only time iv seen him like that

You can't say if the dj is rude or arrogant or whatever based on how he performed with the crowd on that specific day that you saw him. I've seen Tiesto just walk off on his crowd a couple times but that doesn't make him an asshole or anything. I'm sure if you knew him in person you'd say "oh he's such a good person and shit". Maybe he walked off for certain reasons, security or safety of his fans when he sees people go literally insane. So you can't say that he's an asshole just by something that you saw him do. You have to know a person in order to judge them properly.

And in terms of music, if you hate Tiesto that's fine, hate him because you don't like certain things about him or you like another dj more. But please don't fucking come to his concert then and go crazy and yell out TI-ES-TO because nothing pisses me off more than those people that talk shit about Tijs and then you see them in the corner going crazy at his gig. Tiesto has done so much for the trance world, not too many dj can show such a level of achievements. It's like saying Paul Oakenfold sucks. He may not be nearly as good now but the man created this kind of music so you have to show respect to him. Tiesto's music has it's own style, just like Armin has his own and Ferry has his own and so on. But there are some dj's that dont' have their own style, they kind of mix it up. Tiesto is definately not one of these dj's. His music has it's own style and it's called Magik Musik. Please people, if you hate him dont' go out and talk shit and then go secretly worshipping him. I don't like certain dj's but i dont' talk shit about them. I respect them anyhow for the music they are trying to produce but i just don't like that music or whaever and that's all. I don't go out there and talk shit about these dj's. Anyway it's 3:33am here in Toronto, so it's time to make a wish

dito...

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Tiesto has done so much for the trance world, not too many dj can show such a level of achievements

I thought that I was the only one who believed that Tiesto had done a lot (more than any other DJ) for the trance music...

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Originally posted by Guerrilla Why is Tiesto not so good as a DJ? As you said he has unique style of production and he makes amazing remixes. What else does a DJ need to be a good DJ?

selection of tracks, his not doing that so good these days, if u ask me 3 years ago, id have a different answer about tiesto, dont get me wrong i still like him, but its not like i felt years back.

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Originally posted by eFeKz take a small peek of how Tiesto remixed Motorcycle's - As the Rush Comes

i didnt know tiesto remixed as the rush comes? when was that? never?

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Originally posted by gouuryella i didnt know tiesto remixed as the rush comes? when was that? never?

iv seen the G&D remix under Tiestos name before, just a mistake at some point

hes never rmxed it

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Originally posted by Rob H iv seen the G&D remix under Tiestos name before, just a mistake at some point hes never rmxed it

yeah i know, he has it on nyana cd 2, and people confuse it that he made that remix, anyways the tracks says demo mix, not tiesto.

it's interesting to hear so many people have such bad experiences meeting him. i had a few great one's. two of my guy friends and i ran into him at a hotel. he took the time to identify tracks from one of his old live sets off of an old portable cd player my friend had. then he invited us up to his room for signings. another person i know went to see him on broadway (in san diego) and handed tiesto his record, and tiesto played it. i was there, he definitely played it, unfortunately the record skipped. it's always terrible when you get treated badly and are disrespected. but, from tiesto, i had a totally different experience.

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Originally posted by alphawav BECAUSE HE DOES , DUDE, TIESTO SUCKS . I'm not saying that he plays bad music, but AS A D.J. HE LOST IT WAY BACK IN 2000 HE'S GOOD AT REMIXING AND THE SCUCH BUT HE IS A PIECE OF CRAP OVERRATED DJ. . THATS ALL PEACE.

calm down buddy dont blow a testicle

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Originally posted by Joca Tiesto is nothing more then a name these days. He can get away with half ass dj'ing and people stil love em!

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i think people love him becuase he influenced them...and 90% of people who attend clubs and events dont give a rats ass about how he mixes but how the music hits them. you need to know that not every fan is a dj and not every fan cares if a dj mixes like a fucking machine.

Ive never seen him live. So I cant hate.

Ive only heard him live and his albums. Personally, there are other DJ's and producers out there...the fame that preceeds Tiesto is a bit overrated. His producing doesnt impress me...I find it a bit dull...compared to some other producers with more variety.

DJ'ing though...I have no problem with it.

I like Tiesto...but thats just me and my limited experience with him.

You all amaze me saying that you hate Tiesto and don't even give any reasons, I am begining to believe that you all are just followers. And to say that Tiesto immitates? What is that? And Armin Van Buuren even? Well, I just hope that some of you think about what you are going to say before you say it. And giving a DJ a record to play is very, very rude. For more than half of you I am guessing, go see a DJ live before you say anything else. Last but not least, DJs, all of them, yes all of them no matter how much you like, follow, or worship them, have their own rough times and bad shows, so just a friendly reminder, think before you speak.

Zeiben

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Originally posted by Mindphaser Cause people think it's cool to say he sucks.. makes them think they are really part of a leet group of nerds. Who cares who likes who... just go your own way and enjoy what you're doing.

AMEN.

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Originally posted by Zeiben You all amaze me saying that you hate Tiesto and don't even give any reasons, I am begining to believe that you all are just followers. And to say that Tiesto immitates? What is that? And Armin Van Buuren even? Well, I just hope that some of you think about what you are going to say before you say it. And giving a DJ a record to play is very, very rude. For more than half of you I am guessing, go see a DJ live before you say anything else. Last but not least, DJs, all of them, yes all of them no matter how much you like, follow, or worship them, have their own rough times and bad shows, so just a friendly reminder, think before you speak. Zeiben

I've given reasons about 6,000 times now...because there are hundreds...

But I dont feel like laying them all out to a bunch of idiots who will still love Tiestor just cause.

He used to be great...he's a total joke now...

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Originally posted by eFeKz I too feel that Tiesto is a subpar DJ. His compilations are somewhat weird to begin with, they're like their own genre of trance..take a small peek of how Tiesto remixed Motorcycle's - As the Rush Comes.... I think the only reason Tiesto has gotten so much hype is due to Armin van Buuren featuring his compilations and remixes on his A State of Trance shows and such, along with Paul Oakenfold featuring his goodies too. Personally, I think Tiesto is a cling-on to famous DJ's, an imitator, not an originator. Ah well, not the DJ for me.

That is the most ass backwards post I have ever read. First:
"they're like their own genre of trance" and then:
"I think Tiesto is a cling-on to famous DJ's, an imitator, not an originator."


Doesn't make any sense to me.

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Originally posted by Guerrilla Paul Van Dyk does a better job than Tiesto? Are you serious? I think that Paul Van Dyk is the DJ who does not deserve to be #2. I've been 3 times on his shows during the last 3 month; and I can say that compare to Tiesto or even Ferry Corsten, this German is a way below (in my opinion). But what I most do not like about Paul Van Dyk is his fucked up attitude toward the crowd and other DJ's.

I agree with this. PVD stands there, does nothing, and makes me feel like I just ate 6 Xanax. He never gets a crowd hyped.

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Originally posted by ncgroov808 That is the most ass backwards post I have ever read. First: "they're like their own genre of trance" and then: "I think Tiesto is a cling-on to famous DJ's, an imitator, not an originator." Doesn't make any sense to me.

And Armin and all the other Dutch dj's would be washing dishes or working at the coffeehouses in Amsterdam if it wasn't for Tiesto. Tiesto opened the floodgates for Dutch trance. I'm not saying I dislike the other Dutch dj's, but they would be far from where they are now if Tiesto didn't make "Dutch" and "Trance" synonymous.

And also, you could be techinically the best mixer in the world, but if you play 50 shitty tracks, no one is going to like you. But if you are even mediocre at mixing and have an awesome track selection and ability to read a crowd, more people will like you. Mixing is NOT the only standard by which a dj should be judged.

And I have met Tiesto several times. He has always been more than willing to just relax and talk to people. I met him before and after he was voted #1 and he seems the same person to me.

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Originally posted by Guerrilla My bad... The rudest and the most arrogant DJ I have met, so far, was Paul Van Dyk.

Me too. He is such a conceited asshole.

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Originally posted by ncgroov808 And Armin and all the other Dutch dj's would be washing dishes or working at the coffeehouses in Amsterdam if it wasn't for Tiesto. Tiesto opened the floodgates for Dutch trance. I'm not saying I dislike the other Dutch dj's, but they would be far from where they are now if Tiesto didn't make "Dutch" and "Trance" synonymous. And also, you could be techinically the best mixer in the world, but if you play 50 shitty tracks, no one is going to like you. But if you are even mediocre at mixing and have an awesome track selection and ability to read a crowd, more people will like you. Mixing is NOT the only standard by which a dj should be judged. And I have met Tiesto several times. He has always been more than willing to just relax and talk to people. I met him before and after he was voted #1 and he seems the same person to me. He talks to people more at his smaller gigs because there are too many assholes at the larger ones.

And then there are all these othjer dj's who say Tijs is an asshole or conceited orwhatever, but these are the same people who have a picture of themselves behind two turnatbles with headphones on as an avatar. You're so unique.

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Originally posted by ncgroov808 I agree with this. PVD stands there, does nothing, and makes me feel like I just ate 6 Xanax. He never gets a crowd hyped.

But he does bitch about not being #1 and about how people shouldn't download his music. Tijs, on the other hand realizes how people downloading his music in North America before it was available here exposed a lot of people to him. And the PVD also bitches because no one's contacted him to play the Olympics or any other non-traditional edm setting and syas that "trance only belongs in clubs." I think that's bullshit. Saying that generally says that people have to be fucked up to enjoy trance. Maybe if PVD spent less time whining and more time selecting better records, he might be #1.

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