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Originally posted by Orko Making playlists on the fly is awsome. Not tedious at all. You can que up artists, albums, individual songs, change the order of play, remove, and save the playlists. Its great cause i can be away from a computer from days at a time traveling, and that way i dont get sick of the same playlists.

Your DAMN FUCKING RIGHT IT'S AWESOME!

That is the ONE feature I would say I relatively dislike about my iPod mini when compared to a Zen Micro.... changing a playlist is KEY!

You can make a playlist on the fly w/ the iPod, but you cant modify the order of play... whutever order you add the songs to the playlist in, is the order they play in (i really dislike this restrictiveness).

How easy is it to rearrange the order of songs on the the Micro and other Creative Labs products! I need to talk to Matt and see how easy its done! Honestly -- KEWLEST feature EVER! I really do wish my iPod could do that.

But everything else about it I enjoy just as much or more than the Zen Micro.

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Originally posted by Orko I got this before all these super tiny players came out on the market, and i will NEVER get an iPod, they can lick my balls. Creative has the best menu system on the market. And one of the only companies that allows you to make playlists on the fly...thats a huge thing in my book. If i were to get a new player, it would be a Creative, for that reason alone.

I dunno whut you mean about the menu system. I have seen Matt's Zen Micro and it looks EXACTLY the same as my iPod mini's screen -- only a different font and a tad bit tinier (which i guess it good, more characters would fit on the screen).

Though I really do dislike the Micro's scrolling feature (when compared to the iPod's TouchPad). The scrolling strip is better than whut ive seen on many an other player, but no where NEAR as good and versatile as the iPods touch pad (IMO). PLus i alwasy end up somehow touching the center part to hard and end up selecting a menu when i dont mean to.

I like hte way the Micro lights up too, the buttons and around the edge fo the player in blue! TOTALLY COOL feature I love as well.


Both are very very VERY solid players if you ask me. I dont think either one sucks -- both are top-notch.


~Jem~

EDIT: How is the Contacts feature in the Micro or other creative Labs products. Its a HUGE selling point for me w/ the iPod. The contact viewing feature is done BEAUTIFULLY! I use it ALL THE TIME (since I dont use cellphones).

Man, i dunno whut id do w/o my iPod when in TO. I NEED its contact lists to be able to get in contact w/ my friends!

I love you iPody/Gertie!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! *heart*

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Originally posted by Jem_hadar I dunno whut you mean about the menu system. I have seen Matt's Zen Micro and it looks EXACTLY the same as my iPod mini's screen -- only a different font and a tad bit tinier (which i guess it good, more characters would fit on the screen). Though I really do dislike the Micro's scrolling feature (when compared to the iPod's TouchPad). The scrolling strip is better than whut ive seen on many an other player, but no where NEAR as good and versatile as the iPods touch pad (IMO). PLus i alwasy end up somehow touching the center part to hard and end up selecting a menu when i dont mean to.

i didnt know it was the same, the only other players which i thought had the same interface was the Dell Dj players, which actually got it from the creative players. Its just the "Now Playing" menu which i love. Anything you play will be added to it, and its stored there.

If you add an album the the playlist, you can move the entire album up and down in the play sequence.

I dont know about the contacts feature for the micro, my player doesnt have one, cause its too old. That doesnt botter me one bit, cause i have all my contacts in my phone anyways, where it actually needs to be.

The touch pad for the Mirco, is a huge draw back. Many reviewers have claimed that its just too sensitive sometimes, and can be fickle. I agree when i used it, but i didnt think it was that bad. But the one thing that makes it way better, is the removal battery. When i saw that iPods didnt have that feature, i didnt have to look at anything else. I knew it wasnt for me. Like i said before, i travel a lot on the weekends, and being able to take a few charged batteries is a huge plus for me. What happens when your 8hrs on your ipod runs out? thats it, its done, no more contacts! lol. So when im traveling, i have 3 batteries, at about 10-12hrs each, so i can get up to 30hrs of playback, without having to worry about charging.

EDIT: my player has a scroll wheen on the side, which took a bit of getting used to, but now with that, and the back button, its a breeze doing what i need to in the player.

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Originally posted by Orko But the one thing that makes it way better, is the removal battery. When i saw that iPods didnt have that feature, i didnt have to look at anything else. I knew it wasnt for me. Like i said before, i travel a lot on the weekends, and being able to take a few charged batteries is a huge plus for me. What happens when your 8hrs on your ipod runs out? thats it, its done, no more contacts! lol. So when im traveling, i have 3 batteries, at about 10-12hrs each, so i can get up to 30hrs of playback, without having to worry about charging.

I thought originally (very strongly too) that this would be an issue. And in the end: NOT EVEN.

I have a dual DC and AC charger for my iPod. I just plug her in (same as into the computer) and shit's good as gold.

Even if I owned a Micro now and HAD the option of removeal batteries, I'd not even bother with that business. It's simply toooooo easy and simple to just plug the fucking thing in and let it charge up -- 2 hours and im at 80%, and so long as I have an DC or AC adapter, there really is no excuse for my battery to ever run out... esp. since my battery gets 18 hours of life at its max potential (the Micro's is 12 hours).

Honestly, changing that battery is a hastle I dont even care I dont have an option for. Bringing in the car my charger is the simpliest thing in the world... I can play music AS IT CHARGES, or just charge it up that night when slepeing somewhere (like say in a motel or something if I was traveling).

Honestly, worrying about your battery running out is not a concern you'll ever have with an iPod (or atleast I don't have such worries ever cross my mind).

~Jem~

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Originally posted by Jem_hadar since my battery gets 18 hours of life at its max potential (the Micro's is 12 hours

18 bloody hours!? how the hell do you get that!? Even ipods website only claims a MAX of 15 hours.
http://www.apple.com/ipod/color/

and i dont have a car, and say i travel to kinston via bus(which i do regularly) thats a 5-6 hours of traveling each way. I dont want to pack a charger, cause i want to pack light. So i just take another battery with me. Works great.

-you can make playlists on-the-fly with the Archos Gmini

-you can use iTunes with the Archos Gmini (the plugin is provided)


oh and malek:

http://gmini400.com/index.php?optio...msg6379#msg6379


kinda subjective, but there you go

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Originally posted by Orko 18 bloody hours!? how the hell do you get that!? Even ipods website only claims a MAX of 15 hours. http://www.apple.com/ipod/color/ and i dont have a car, and say i travel to kinston via bus(which i do regularly) thats a 5-6 hours of traveling each way. I dont want to pack a charger, cause i want to pack light. So i just take another battery with me. Works great.

iPod Photo only has 6 hours

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Originally posted by ShadoWolf -you can make playlists on-the-fly with the Archos Gmini -you can use iTunes with the Archos Gmini (the plugin is provided) oh and malek: http://gmini400.com/index.php?optio...msg6379#msg6379 kinda subjective, but there you go

It's ugly as hell and looks like a total geek tool

Apple claims the new iPods have up to 15 hours...

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Originally posted by Orko 18 bloody hours!? how the hell do you get that!? Even ipods website only claims a MAX of 15 hours. http://www.apple.com/ipod/color/

http://www.apple.com/ipodmini/specs.html

^^^ See above. I have an iPod mini (2nd generation). Their battery life is a max of 18 hours.

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and i dont have a car, and say i travel to kinston via bus(which i do regularly) thats a 5-6 hours of traveling each way. I dont want to pack a charger, cause i want to pack light. So i just take another battery with me. Works great.

Honestly, my charger is not much bigger than the size of the Micro batteries -- I've seen Matt's.

The difference in packing an extra battery or packing the iCase car/home charger I have is negligible... for all intensive purposes there is no real difference, honest.

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Originally posted by Jem_hadar I have an iPod mini (2nd generation).

*snicker*

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Originally posted by starsearcher It's ugly as hell and looks like a total geek tool

Aye. I love the iPod's look above all others. Simple. Eligant. Nice.

All that I want and desire. Nothing too fancy -- I don't like fancy or busy.

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Originally posted by Jem_hadar http://www.apple.com/ipodmini/specs.html ^^^ See above. I have an iPod mini (2nd generation). Honestly, my charger is not much bigger than the size of the Micro batteries -- I've seen Matt's. The difference in packing an extra battery or packing the iCase car/home charger I have is negligible... for all intensive purposes there is no real difference, honest.

ok that makes a lot more sense now, lol.


Dude, i dont have a micro! I have an older player, and the ac adapter is large, so i dont like to carry it. It's easily larger than the ipod mini itself.

On a side, note, what kind of transfer rates do these new small players get? My player uses a conventional laptop harddrive, and i can get upto 70Mbps out of it, and some people have been known to ge upto 90Mbps. I wonder what these new micro drives can get.

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Originally posted by starsearcher It's ugly as hell and looks like a total geek tool

typical Apple/Mac/iPod whore.... prefers form over function




anyway, I think the Gmini looks better






iPod is the Tiesto of the MP3 world.... not bad, but there are better options, not to mention over-hyped

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Originally posted by ShadoWolf typical Apple/Mac/iPod whore.... prefers form over function

sooooo true!!!

typical techie geek -- prefers function over form

iPods ease of use and functionality are still amazing by the way.

In fact the problem with all these other products is that they are designed by techie geeks who have no idea or background in design whereas Apple uses industrial designers and other design professionals to design their producs...

it's like comparing GM to Audi

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Originally posted by ShadoWolf

Fucking god, that's a good looking beast!

*droul*

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Originally posted by Orko ok that makes a lot more sense now, lol. Dude, i dont have a micro! I have an older player, and the ac adapter is large, so i dont like to carry it. It's easily larger than the ipod mini itself. On a side, note, what kind of transfer rates do these new small players get? My player uses a conventional laptop harddrive, and i can get upto 70Mbps out of it, and some people have been known to ge upto 90Mbps. I wonder what these new micro drives can get.

Dude, sorry man, I know you have the Jukebox, I was just drawing a comparison to say someone who would chose the Micro over the iPod mini based on the replaceable battery option.

That was the only point i meant to drive home! Didnt mean to drive you bonkers. LOL.

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Originally posted by starsearcher iPods ease of use and functionality are still amazing by the way.

I'll give you that... still the best in the business.

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Originally posted by Jem_hadar Fucking god, that's a good looking beast! *droul*

This one's better




And there's a rumour that the new iPods that are scheduled to come out later this year/next year will have video playback...

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Originally posted by starsearcher And there's a rumour that the new iPods that are scheduled to come out later this year/next year will have video playback...

^^ yeah I know that...i'm just saying it's not an iPod...

Oh and just for the record I am an Apple whore

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Originally posted by Jem_hadar Dude, sorry man, I know you have the Jukebox, I was just drawing a comparison to say someone who would chose the Micro over the iPod mini based on the replaceable battery option. That was the only point i meant to drive home! Didnt mean to drive you bonkers. LOL.

haha, no worries, just wanted to make sure i drove the point home

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Originally posted by starsearcher This one's better And there's a rumour that the new iPods that are scheduled to come out later this year/next year will have video playback...

see im really skeptical about that. Current mp3 players can do it too(like the Iriver H320/340), but because the processors are so slow(dont need to be fast to play music), the video play back is crap. On the Iriver you can only play back Xvids @ 10fps @ 280x160 or something small like that.

They would have to bump up the processor speed a lot to let it handle videos, and that would just kill the battery!

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Originally posted by starsearcher This one's better And there's a rumour that the new iPods that are scheduled to come out later this year/next year will have video playback...

Indeed it is -- thought color is only a bonus for me. I still think I'd take the smaller size of the iPod mini over the color display of the iPod photo.

But gotdam is that ever fucking beautiful! It marvels me -- hehehe, the iPod is an electronic mp3 player equivalent to a really hot woman!

Video did you say? OMG!

If that is true, even though I own a mini, I honestly think I will go out and fucking buy a iPod w/ video capabilities.... that'd be supreme.

Honestly, I really do think they should add the customization playlist option that the Creative Labs players have. That would trully make the iPod SUPREME in my humble opinion.

color + video + customizable on-the-go playlists (ie. adding, removing and re-ordering songs, albulms, etc. while on the move )

~Jem~

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Originally posted by starsearcher ^^ yeah I know that...i'm just saying it's not an iPod...

Yes, that's where I am at too. Though that player does have video, it's not an iPod.

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Oh and just for the record I am an Apple whore

I am too -- though I dont own an Apple laptop or desktop (wish I did though).

~Jem~

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Originally posted by Orko haha, no worries, just wanted to make sure i drove the point home see im really skeptical about that. Current mp3 players can do it too(like the Iriver H320/340), but because the processors are so slow(dont need to be fast to play music), the video play back is crap. On the Iriver you can only play back Xvids @ 10fps @ 280x160 or something small like that. They would have to bump up the processor speed a lot to let it handle videos, and that would just kill the battery!

Ahhhhhhhh, draw back! Oh well, one can dream.... now that I think about it, what a drain indeed it would place on the battery! Yikes!

These Sony products are kicking the iPods' ass in Japan right now.

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