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Leon u obviously did not read my previous reply...
I love Heaven and it's non-skankyness... 
LMAO thanks Woody! 
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| Originally posted by clubheaven OK -Nrgtrance39 post because he is Varun friend, I�m not counting his opinion/praise too much. Thanks anyway Nrgtrance39 -Noree post because he is Clovis friend, I�m not counting his opinion/criticism too much either. Most people can read between line of Noree posts and can figure out why you motivated. your posts is kind of "shady" to me. But let me clear with you guys: *Cancel dj I remember I already explain to you guy before, I don�t want to repeat. *stolent pictures: I did ask Clovis to post picture on my website and he did approved He did ask me to put his name on the picture, I did reply �I don�t have time to add his name to every single picture, be honost I don�t know how to do it�. But I did say �if you want, you could add your name to the picture and send to me�. And he did send email back and �ok let me do it�. Is this correct Clovis? If so, i'm still waiting for corrected pics. And then when you hear Kristina not my resident anymore then You send email me not very polite, take your picture out ASAP.... Why you change you mind all the time, but I can figure out WHY�.. Anyway a lot of fan come to Heaven take a picture, I collect all the picture and post in my website, I don�t see what wrong with that. You have to proud your self is your picture on Heaven website Many clubs do this, if I have to deal additional legal contracts for each fan photographer, it is too much work with everything I do already. In future, I will only work with photogs who are understanding of my efforts. No one goes to clubs to see photographers, so stop making yourself more important than paying customers who come for music and love of scene. To stop dealing with a bunch of headeach, from now on I only let Michelle take picture. Thanks a lot Michelle. But let I tell you guys I don�t give a shit about Clovis say, why the last 3 week he post a lot of shit, his post about not about the idea or advise. All about HATE, why, because Kristina not Heaven Resident any more. That�s why�.because she is his friend. Again I�m not count what he say�. Look at what Clovis post � Put it this way: I'd rather pay 70$ to see Kristina Sky and Victor Dinaire tear it up for three hours each. Because THEY still love what they do and are in it for the music and not the money.� Take your money buy the DVD TIC you will see $70 worth it or not. I paid $1000 for airticket and a lot of other expend to go to Amsterdam last year to see TIC. I let you guy can see how he is����all BS......and you guy can figure out why we have a lot of BS threat now. That the reason why last time I let Dave T and Michelle explain for Heaven, because they not working for Heaven. They speak from their heart and for truth. Their opinions are not hidden behind some "shady" dealings with friends. As you guy know I�m always take care for TA when they come to Heaven. Why I did not give comp to Clovis, even he paid I�m still not welcome to let him IN, why because he always say SHIT about Heaven. Why I have to let people come to my house and say SHIT and mess up my house. If you hate so much, please all of us a favor and take your hate to some other club. You will be more happy and so will we. There are thousands of happy paying customers at heaven, so we can't please all but many. *About Motorcycle: Jes(Motorcycle) or Motorcycle (Jes) what�s a difference. When you see Motorcycle Live post anywhere in the world, That mean only JES, they never do live together, only onetime at WMC. If Dave have a problem, he need to talk to Jes not me. And the bottom line is book Jes I paid, I�m not cheating any one. Jes is 1/3 equal part of Motorcycle. she has as much right to promote herself as she please. Jes and booking agent choose Heaven. I have discussed this with Dave and things should be cool/OK. Gabriel and Drsden are always welcome at Heaven as guests and to perform if they want. In the future, to avoid complications, it may be best to promote it as Jes of Motorcycle. I was not trying to deceive anybody. For Book Acosta Some people like Acosta then come and see him, if who you don�t like him then don�t. What the problem for Heaven book Acosta. If he really really bad dj. That still fine because I book more than 50 good djs show far. So that only 2 or 3% Heaven book bad djs. So�..Spundae and other club book Acosta too. And you look at the vibe last nite we have, every body have so much fun. SO What really a problem here��Anyway I really sick of this kind of threat, could you guy stop it please. If you don�t want to come to Heaven, don�t come. Please don�t try to break the LOVE from the true fan to Heaven. Thank you. P.S. this is the last time I will post my threat on TA. If I post only for Heaven upcoming event, no other subject. Noree. How many time you come to Heaven. what you know about Heaven. Before you say anything please spend you time to find out, it's true or not, please don't sit down and home and collect a bunch of dramar and say shit. Heaven is Heaven and still Heaevn, we don't have any problem, don't make it like end of world. Thank you. |
Agreed, Leon you are nothing but a nice guy and don' take shit from a bunch of people that constantly carry around a box of tissues crying!
You can't please everyone.
/me starts crying
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| Originally posted by Shafer8 Agreed, Leon you are nothing but a nice guy and don' take shit from a bunch of people that constantly carry around a box of tissues crying! You can't please everyone. |
well cletus, looks like you should contract out your ipcs in the future, as it seems some people think it is just a hobby of yours with your disposable.
good lucky sortin this out. 
Why don't you put your own name on each photo before you submit it, that way you are covered.
Thats what alot of other people do and this way you can't get fucked. Alot of the times people get screwed over is because they let down their guard.
I also think Leon has nothing to gain from not adding your name to the photos. I think he just didnt have time or really doesnt know how to do it.
blah blah blah i dont think Leon needs a lawyer....let him speak for himself please!
I am not his laywer at all, I am my own laywer and have a right to voice my opinion just as the rest of you always do.
sniffle sniffle sniffle,
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| Originally posted by Shafer8 I am not his laywer at all, I am my own laywer and have a right to voice my opinion just as the rest of you always do. sniffle sniffle sniffle, |
I like the tone this thread took was taking in the last few posts, especially refuge's post. I've been reading this for a while as a lot of others have, but I didn't have anything to really add or support. A lot us us seem to feel rather self important on TA and I'd like to avoid that.
In support of Refuge's post, I have gotten to know Leon a bit more through Heaven and outside of Heaven as we had mutual friends in common, and I can say that anything he has done that may be construed as negative, improper, or unprofessional, etc was not done maliciously or intentionally. He's just a guy trying to do his best. Maybe some could do better in certain situations, but Leon is doing this on a consitent basis. That takes commitment.
I doubt that he's actually angry, but he may be a little hurt that there is so much criticism of soemthing that should be for fun while hopefully not going in ruin.
Clovis, I don't know you, so I have nothing against you. Most of us here all have EDM music in common. Some people say you are a decent guy, and you probably are. You've made your point very well. You are NOT happy about your "copyrighted pictures" being posted on the Heaven website. Heaven has been rather slow in removing them. You are right, but keeping things in perspective, it's not like your mother was raped or that you'd actually could have easily sold them. I like the pictures you took. They are good. Heaven could have acknowledged you, but there are plenty of people that are ready to take pictures. Not many Leon's around doing what he's doing. I want to do it, but I haven't had the nuts yet to do it. If Leon could have tecnhically done it himself, he, he probably would have already. He probably has to rely on somebody, else and maybe they're slow to getting around to it. You can criticize and say that's unprofessional, but this is not a major corporation. So you've made your point; give it some more time, and see what happens. Maybe the pictures will be removed, or maybe they won't, but for those of us that care, we can easily find out. If you keep complaining in the same thread about it, you'll start looking bad, even if you were right.
Also, keep in mind that those that may seem be your friends, aren't always the best of friends, and those that you considered your enemies can turn out to be the best of friends. It's that little bird in the shit story.
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| Originally posted by Shafer8 Why don't you put your own name on each photo before you submit it, that way you are covered. Thats what alot of other people do and this way you can't get fucked. Alot of the times people get screwed over is because they let down their guard. I also think Leon has nothing to gain from not adding your name to the photos. I think he just didnt have time or really doesnt know how to do it. |
he's right Clovis......i hate you....i always have
hahaha im kidding im kidding....trying to make this thread a little more happy now 
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| Originally posted by HALO555 Clovis, I don't know you, so I have nothing against you. Most of us here all have EDM music in common. You've made your point very well. You are NOT happy about your "copyrighted pictures" being posted on the Heaven website. Heaven has been rather slow in removing them. You are right, but keeping things in perspective, it's not like your mother was raped or that you'd actually could have easily sold them. I like the pictures you took. They are good. Heaven could have acknowledged you, but there are plenty of people that are ready to take pictures. Not many Leon's around doing what he's doing. I want to do it, but I haven't had the nuts yet to do it. If Leon could have tecnhically done it himself, he, he probably would have already. He probably has to rely on somebody, else and maybe they're slow to getting around to it. You can criticize and say that's unprofessional, but this is not a major corporation. So you've made your point; give it some more time, and see what happens. Maybe the pictures will be removed, or maybe they won't, but for those of us that care, we can easily find out. If you keep complaining in the same thread about it, you'll start looking bad, even if you were right. Also, keep in mind that those that may seem be your friends, aren't always the best of friends, and those that you considered your enemies can turn out to be the best of friends. It's that little bird in the shit story. |
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| Originally posted by Clovis86 My gallery has copyright bars under each photo. I will be adding a watermark in the future...but whats the difference if they are stolen and put on another site regardless... It would take about ten seconds to ask the web guy to put a small note giving credit. |
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| Originally posted by Boomer187 well at least teh only crime was copyright infringement, and not murder, rape, or terrorism. |
ok ok ok guys......since i REALLY started this whole shit.....i would like to end it here...
Leon....u do a great job for the LA scene....and we all do see your hard work.....like someone said before u cant please everyone...i hope there is no hard feelings.....
i must admit i did overreact and for that i do apologize.....but i hope u do see what we were trying to say.
anyway......its my lunch break....yey
None of what I read should have been posted on a message board. Any and all problems/issues should have been addressed through emails or other means. It's rather sad to see all the negative stuff being thrown around especially on this board, the TA board where I never imagined to see such things. 
I know Leon has done a great job, not an easy one, but has tried to satisfy everyone by keeping them happy and by booking certain DJs. Perhaps you people got a little spoiled but I also think you need to show some respect.
Keep your head up Leon.
On another note, Second Sun's agency says they are playing at the VANGUARD on Aug 20th...wonder if there's a venue change for the Tiesto afterparty or if it's a mistake.
Yeah that is a mistake, thanks Dave.
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| Originally posted by DaveT On another note, Second Sun's agency says they are playing at the VANGUARD on Aug 20th...wonder if there's a venue change for the Tiesto afterparty or if it's a mistake. |
And with Matt Darey!
Of course, Matt Darey ! I'll be there. You certainly have enthusiasm.
- Now I am guilty of continuing this thread.
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| Originally posted by TSG None of what I read should have been posted on a message board. Any and all problems/issues should have been addressed through emails or other means. It's rather sad to see all the negative stuff being thrown around especially on this board, the TA board where I never imagined to see such things. I know Leon has done a great job, not an easy one, but has tried to satisfy everyone by keeping them happy and by booking certain DJs. Perhaps you people got a little spoiled but I also think you need to show some respect. Keep your head up Leon. |
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