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Posted by umes23 on Jul-26-2005 00:22:

but pvd is not a "trance" dj, even if it's the bigger component of his sets, in does not DEFINE him. he plays house, techno, tech house, tech trance and yet a lot more...when he wants to.

given the above fact, why should i look at it as what's the best TRANCE out there for him to make a cd with? if there is relatively no good trance to make a cd with, either don't use that music or don't make the cd at this time lol. yeah we might make up for 1% of the market but some of us are his biggest fans on the planet and chase him around as much as we possibly can to catch him live.... why should we put up with anything below what we've come to expect from our favorite dj?

as an "artist" he should care more about the people that understand and love his "art" not the people seeing it as something new (thats what u call mass appeal) due to lack of knowledge when it's clearly subpar to the high standard he set for himself 4, 5, and more years ago.

there is one thing i can agree with which is your first sentence. we haven't heard the cd, and surely i will give it a listen as i was hoping to LOVE it.... and only good remixing can save the overall mix because some of these tracks just should not be on this disc and if they sound like what i think they sound like then the last thing i have left to say is a BIG FAT BLAH.

quote:
Originally posted by Rockabye
No one of us heard the mixed but all start to judge the CD on their tracklist.

There are at least 10 tracks that I've never heard, and thats a good average out of 32!

Tracks like Summer Dream or The Other Side haven't been put on any other compilation till now.

Many of the tracks aren't released yet.


I don't think the tracklist is poor. OK, it's far from TPOD1 but I think its impossible to reach the standards from 2001 today. How could Paul put outstanding tracks on TPOD2 if there aren't any??? Today we have no Club Attack, Into the Night or Rapture.


And one thing: Look at TPOD2 with the eyes of a "normal" trance listener. Not like us that get a PvD Liveset every month and can download new tracks months before they will be released. Yes, for internet junkies like us, some tracks are old, overplayed and boring...but I think we represent only 1% of all trance listeners. The average trance listener will be satisfied by this compilation for sure!!!


I will buy this CD and I'm sure I like it and listen to it more than one time. It's the same with ASOT 2005 or ISOS 4. Most people here on TA were disappointed but I like both CDs. ISOS has so man beautiful tracks, only the mixing is terrible. And ASOT 2005 has a lot of good tracks too and superb mixing by Armin with Ableton.


So maybe some people should have lower expectations. If not, they'll be disappointed each and every time a new CD comes out. And of course: no one forces you to buy this CD


Posted by Hanki on Jul-26-2005 00:47:

Tracklist doesn't look impressing...


Posted by A.J. on Jul-26-2005 03:51:

Interesting......very interesting.

I'm going to put my faith in Paul and give this CD a chance. It might have a few surprises.


However, i do have to say that i'm disappointed that there isn't more new/unreleased material on here, paticularly since it has been delayed for so long.


Posted by eulerfx on Jul-26-2005 04:18:

I like POD1, but this CD...well I don't know all but a couple of those tracks, and since I listen to good music, this means they suck.


Posted by Porky on Jul-26-2005 07:32:



CLICK 2 LISTEN


Posted by thesuperfunk on Jul-26-2005 09:54:

Positiva release has been pushed back to September 19th.


Posted by Mycron on Jul-26-2005 10:07:

tracklist of CD1 looks good to me, nothing special, but it's ok,

CD2 is a big disappointment from him in my opinion


Posted by Nik Novo on Jul-26-2005 11:02:

I'm somehow missing "Timo Maas - Pictures (Paul van Dyk Remix)" and "Deep Dish - Say Hello (Paul van Dyk Remix)" on this CD. Can't really believe they are not on it.


Posted by Rockabye on Jul-26-2005 11:24:

I think they don't tell us the truth on Pauls Site about the Tracklist. He played both CDs @ LFA in the right order???

quote:

CD 2

1 Paul van Dyk: The Other Side
2 Jose Amnesia: Second Day
3 Steve Agnello & Sebastian Ingrosso: Yeah
4 Simon and Shaker: Make It
5 Yellow Blackboard: Superfly
6 Guiseppe Ottaviani: Linking People
7 Marco V: More Than A Life Away
8 Thomas Bronszwaer: Close Horizon
9 Mark Norman: T34
10 CJ Stone: Shine
11 Santiago Nino: Believe
12 Perasma: Swing to Harmony
13 Dallas: Superstar
14 Wellenrausch: Carry On
15 James Holden: Nothing


LFA SET

02. Paul van Dyk feat. Wayne Jackson - The Other Side
03. Jose Amnesia vs. Serp - Second Day (Martin Roth Remix)
04. Timo Maas feat. Brian Molko - Pictures (Paul van Dyk Remix)
05. Phantomforce - Slammer
05. Steve Angello & Sebastian Ingrosso - Yeah
06. Simon & Shaker - Make It (Dub Mix)
07. Yellow Blackboard - Superfly (Andy Moor Remix)
08. Giuseppe Ottaviani - Linking People
09. Marco V - More Than A Life Away (Album Extented Mix)
10. Thomas Bronzwaer - Close Horizon
11. Mark Norman - T 34
12. CJ Stone - Shine (Heart Of Stone Mix) (PvD Rework)
13. Santiago Nino - Believe (Max Graham's Sidechain Remix)
14. Perasma - Swing 2 Harmony (Deserves An Effort Symphony Dub Mix)
15. Dallas Superstars - Higher (Paul van Dyk Edit)
16. Wellenrausch - Carry On (Fassbender Mix) (Paul van Dyk Edit)
17. Holden & Thompson - Nothing (93 Returning Mix)



CD 1

2 Above & Beyond pres. Tranquility Base: Getting Away (Leama & Moor Remix)
3 Calmec: Tangerine
4 Jose Zamora & Damian DP: Transatlantic (Andy Moor Remix)
5 Shiloh: Dream On
6 Walsh and Coutre feat. Holly: Burn
7 Thomas Datt: Alone
8 Lolo: Why
9 Purple Haze: Adrenaline
10 Kuffdam and Plant: Summerdream
11 Filo and Peri feat. Fisher: Closer Now
12 White Water: The Unknown
13 Marc van Linden: Forbidden Love
14 Whiteroom: Someday Instrumental
15 Kyau vs. Albert: Falling Anywhere
16 Mr. Sam: Lyteo
17 Gerry Cueto: Messages

LFA SET

23. Above & Beyond pres Tranquility Base - Getting Away (Leama & Moor Remix)
24. Calmec - Tangerine
25. Jose Zamora & Damian DP - Transatlantic (Andy Moor Remix)
26. Schiller & Heppner - I Feel You (Album Version) (Paul van Dyk Rework)
27. Thomas Datt - Alone
28. Lolo - Why? (Nick Pilon Mix)
29. Purple Haze - Adrenaline
30. Kuffdam & Plant - Summer Dream (Paul van Dyk Remix)
31. Filo and Peri feat. Fisher - Closer Now
32. White Water - The Unknown (Paul van Dyk Remix)
33. Marc van Linden - Forbidden Love
34. Whiteroom feat. Amy Cooper - Someday (Instrumental Mix)
35. Kyau vs. Albert - Falling Anywhere (Rework)
36. Mr. Sam - Lyteo (Rank 1 Remix)
37. Solange - Messages (Paul van Dyk Edit)


Posted by ctprincess on Jul-26-2005 12:15:

i won't be needing any zannies if i listen to this cd


Posted by DOOMBOT on Jul-26-2005 13:56:

I highly doubt the tracklisting is all correct. If it is, maybe we can hope for a bonus cd?!


Posted by TranceGrooves on Jul-26-2005 15:00:

quote:
Originally posted by DOOMBOT
I highly doubt the tracklisting is all correct.


+ 1

I am starting to have doubts myself

p.s. i tried searching for the TL on PVD's site and came up with nothing.... maybe sumone else can confirm


Posted by Nik Novo on Jul-26-2005 15:13:

quote:
Originally posted by TranceGrooves
+ 1

I am starting to have doubts myself

p.s. i tried searching for the TL on PVD's site and came up with nothing.... maybe sumone else can confirm


http://www.paulvandyk.de/low/discography.asp?id=1411

or

http://www.paulvandyk.de/full/disco...ent.asp?id=1411


but there's no direct link set on pauls page


Posted by swisstoni_uk on Jul-26-2005 15:25:

quote:
Originally posted by Rockabye
I think they don't tell us the truth on Pauls Site about the Tracklist. He played both CDs @ LFA in the right order???


LOLOL nice spotting that, maybe he was testing the compilation to see what reaction he would have?

Either that.... or the PvD is playing a joke with his site


Posted by TranceGrooves on Jul-26-2005 15:30:

quote:
Originally posted by swisstoni_uk
LOLOL nice spotting that, maybe he was testing the compilation to see what reaction he would have?

Either that.... or the PvD is playing a joke with his site


a very sick twisted mean joke i would say


Posted by sandstorm03 on Jul-26-2005 17:29:

quote:
Originally posted by TranceGrooves
+ 1

I am starting to have doubts myself

p.s. i tried searching for the TL on PVD's site and came up with nothing.... maybe sumone else can confirm


yea its fake


Posted by Vandict on Jul-26-2005 18:51:

if this is the real t/l i will be gutted


Posted by Protege on Jul-26-2005 19:07:

I remember the days when Paul was my fav Dj and a cd like this would have me very excited. Those days are long gone now...

Oh and the tl looks like crap, real or fake.


Posted by sandstorm03 on Jul-26-2005 20:47:

quote:
Originally posted by Vandict
if this is the real t/l i will be gutted


why would vandit post a fake tl....

HAHAHAH jk?


Posted by nsamadi on Jul-26-2005 21:00:

it may be fake, according to this and at amazon.ca, Paul's TPOD2 CD should be release on July 26.

http://www.futureshop.ca/catalog/pr...M2093282&catid=

its priced at 9.99 CAN for 2cds, WTF!


Posted by 24K on Jul-26-2005 21:38:

KarateKid

The tracklist is a major disapointment IMO. After seeing PvD 2 times in the past couple months, I think he should seriously consider retiring. The amount of money he gets paid to 'perform' is absurd, when basically any half decent DJ can play the exact same set.


Posted by sandstorm03 on Jul-26-2005 22:46:

quote:
Originally posted by 24K
The tracklist is a major disapointment IMO. After seeing PvD 2 times in the past couple months, I think he should seriously consider retiring. The amount of money he gets paid to 'perform' is absurd, when basically any half decent DJ can play the exact same set.


well not really cause they are pauls edit in someway....

& that goes for every cd today... can u name any that a half decent dj couldnt play?


Posted by nsamadi on Jul-27-2005 00:50:

Smiley DJ TL might be fake

I�m not too sure about this but I think the TL may be fake, due to some evidence I�ve found, again I might be incorrect but here goes nothing. First of all I find it rather funny that there�s no direct link from his website and that the announcement of the tracklist in not mention on the his official home page. Also the web page containing the tracklist seems to be rather dull and something any computer geek with basic computer knowledge could produce. The CD cover is basically a copy from one of his posters and the outlining of the track list can be easily made with a simple word document program so it could of highly been forged. Also there seems to be a lot of so called promised and 100% confirmed tracks not listed. I mean why promise something when it�s not featured. PVD had some idea of what was on the CD. The produced TL on the webpage seemed to have a lot of spelling errors. I don�t think someone in charge of putting this on his website would without proof reading it first or at least checking it. I mean there�s an �e� missing on Adrenline. Blackbird is actually Blackboard and track 12 on CD 1 is out of place. I mean the name of the artist first comes first and then the title of the song but it�s the other way around just for track 12. I highly doubt they would post a TL with so many errors. By looking at the tracklist, some of the tracks seem kind of hard to mix into, I mean PVD is know to do the impossible but come on why should he choose to mix two entirely different tracks back to back. He�d pick something easier and better sounding to mix into. I also highly doubt he�d pick such a TL, I mean come on that�s not PVD at all. There seems to be so many highly over played tunes. Again I may be wrong but this is just my two cents.

And if its real then God help us all, Trance is lost.


Posted by Salem on Jul-27-2005 00:55:

well, done

perfect!


Posted by sandstorm03 on Jul-27-2005 02:32:

Re: TL might be fake

quote:
Originally posted by nsamadi
I�m not too sure about this but I think the TL may be fake, due to some evidence I�ve found, again I might be incorrect but here goes nothing. First of all I find it rather funny that there�s no direct link from his website and that the announcement of the tracklist in not mention on the his official home page. Also the web page containing the tracklist seems to be rather dull and something any computer geek with basic computer knowledge could produce. The CD cover is basically a copy from one of his posters and the outlining of the track list can be easily made with a simple word document program so it could of highly been forged. Also there seems to be a lot of so called promised and 100% confirmed tracks not listed. I mean why promise something when it�s not featured. PVD had some idea of what was on the CD. The produced TL on the webpage seemed to have a lot of spelling errors. I don�t think someone in charge of putting this on his website would without proof reading it first or at least checking it. I mean there�s an �e� missing on Adrenline. Blackbird is actually Blackboard and track 12 on CD 1 is out of place. I mean the name of the artist first comes first and then the title of the song but it�s the other way around just for track 12. I highly doubt they would post a TL with so many errors. By looking at the tracklist, some of the tracks seem kind of hard to mix into, I mean PVD is know to do the impossible but come on why should he choose to mix two entirely different tracks back to back. He�d pick something easier and better sounding to mix into. I also highly doubt he�d pick such a TL, I mean come on that�s not PVD at all. There seems to be so many highly over played tunes. Again I may be wrong but this is just my two cents.

And if its real then God help us all, Trance is lost.


wrong


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