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Posted by JakeC on Jul-28-2005 22:31:

quote:
Originally posted by Ory
He got famous by playing other people's music and hiring a good promotional team.

Fucking hell.


Even your "so underground not even the moles have heard of them" artists/ djs play other peoples music.

There records get signed, therfore they have promotional teams, they get gigs thorugh an agent who promotes them.


FFS i know its cool to hate Tiesto but actually make up some valid arguments.


Posted by JakeC on Jul-28-2005 22:32:

quote:
Originally posted by Clovis86
LMAO what a load of shit...


How what which bit?


Posted by Ory on Jul-28-2005 22:48:

quote:
Originally posted by JakeC
Even your "so underground not even the moles have heard of them" artists/ djs play other peoples music.

There records get signed, therfore they have promotional teams, they get gigs thorugh an agent who promotes them.


FFS i know its cool to hate Tiesto but actually make up some valid arguments.


And I suppose the DJs who are much better than Tiesto don't work hard.

Right. Just admit it; Tiesto sucks at mixing and spins the same shite music at every gig.


Posted by Ishkur on Jul-28-2005 22:51:

quote:
Originally posted by JakeC
Hardwork and putting his effort into what he is doing.


Yes. Everyone who is famous had to work at it. Paris Hilton, for instance.


Posted by Sjagga on Jul-28-2005 22:56:

quote:
Originally posted by Ishkur
Yes. Everyone who is famous had to work at it. Paris Hilton, for instance.


Hell, she's workin' it 24/7!


Posted by Clovis on Jul-28-2005 23:01:

quote:
Originally posted by JakeC
How what which bit?



What Ory said.


James Zabiela has more talent in one of his own strands of hair than Tiesto ever had, or ever will have...


Posted by JakeC on Jul-28-2005 23:53:

quote:
Originally posted by Clovis86
What Ory said.


James Zabiela has more talent in one of his own strands of hair than Tiesto ever had, or ever will have...


Production wise no.

Djing yes, but that is not the point. Tiesto worked hard to get to where he is (up to around 2002) and all you lot can do is rip him?

Nowt but plain jealousy.


Posted by Clovis on Jul-29-2005 01:15:

quote:
Originally posted by JakeC
Production wise no.

Djing yes, but that is not the point. Tiesto worked hard to get to where he is (up to around 2002) and all you lot can do is rip him?

Nowt but plain jealousy.



Sorry but I prefer James limited amount of productions to most anything Tiesto has ever done...save for some of his older stuff.

I rip him now because he is nothing but a fucking joke these days. Some DJ's who are huge are still on the ball (Sasha, Digweed), Tiesto is a clown.


Posted by JakeC on Jul-29-2005 01:20:

quote:
Originally posted by Clovis86
Sorry but I prefer James limited amount of productions to most anything Tiesto has ever done...save for some of his older stuff.


Personal opinion, but whatever

quote:
Originally posted by Clovis86
I rip him now because he is nothing but a fucking joke these days. Some DJ's who are huge are still on the ball (Sasha, Digweed), Tiesto is a clown.


Yes he is a joke these days but does that give anyone the right to go ripping him and saying he didn't work hard to get where he is?


Posted by Clovis on Jul-29-2005 01:24:

quote:
Originally posted by JakeC
Personal opinion, but whatever



Yes he is a joke these days but does that give anyone the right to go ripping him and saying he didn't work hard to get where he is?



Worked hard to get where?


Yeah he worked hard to turn into a clown. lol


Posted by rob_sardellitti on Jul-29-2005 01:58:

quote:
Originally posted by Ory
He got famous by playing other people's music and hiring a good promotional team.

Fucking hell.


if its that easy why dont you do it??

i dont mind that u like underground music..cuz i am the same way..i love rare songs blah blah blah blah..

but just cut it man..ive been on this forum for a little while and all u do is criticize all the djs ppl like...u make it sound like anyone can be where he is, hes lucky, he has a good promotional team, the excuses are infinite, but even tho your opinion means fuck all, it catches my attention everytime, and man, just give it a rest, give him a touch of respect


Posted by Ory on Jul-29-2005 02:12:

quote:
Originally posted by rob_sardellitti
give him a touch of respect


He's the supposed number one DJ on the planet. He won't get any respect from me until he gets a fucking grip. He already makes enough money by doing shit all, so why should he have respect too?


Posted by rob_sardellitti on Jul-29-2005 02:20:

quote:
Originally posted by Ory
He's the supposed number one DJ on the planet. He won't get any respect from me until he gets a fucking grip. He already makes enough money by doing shit all, so why should he have respect too?


well the position he is in the work he does cant really be seen or heard (in this case)...once u become famous its more about all that business and touring crap

think about it...u spend ur whole day meeting new promoters & people in the business, by the time the day is done, u have barely any time to produce...

i guess he made the mistake by steping up to such a high level of fame, but thats his problem, and that is why good famous musicians is somewhat an oxymoron...but tiesto is still DJ Tiesto in my mind, and his productions and mixes and remixes from 1999-2001 will always be with me and for that i still love the guy


Posted by dartrance on Jul-29-2005 02:40:

clovis: You're a fucking moron.

James Zabiela does not even come close to tiesto in productions. Please do not even try to argue this.

James Zabiela has no clue how to feel a crowd or interact in comparison to tiesto. He has just started to get the hang of this

James Zabiela has no clue about putting a set together.

James Zabiela does have a lot better dj skills i will agree there

Please clovis, quit sucking his dick.


Posted by dartrance on Jul-29-2005 02:46:

ory: He has one of most hectic schedules a top dj has.

He plays the same shit in every set? Right.

Besides his trademark tracks that you will always see appearing he is pretty good at keeping it fresh. Yes you will see a few old tracks here and there but to say a entire set is old material is complete bullshit.

He is not confined to the mcprog trance that is destroying the scene right now as well.

and like many people said before, he is the one rolling in the stardom . Ory you're just the one complaining on a message board.


Posted by Clovis on Jul-29-2005 02:53:

quote:
Originally posted by dartrance
clovis: You're a fucking moron.

James Zabiela does not even come close to tiesto in productions. Please do not even try to argue this.

James Zabiela has no clue how to feel a crowd or interact in comparison to tiesto. He has just started to get the hang of this

James Zabiela has no clue about putting a set together.

James Zabiela does have a lot better dj skills i will agree there

Please clovis, quit sucking his dick.



Thanks for the fuckin good laugh mate.


Posted by Clovis on Jul-29-2005 03:01:

I used Zabiela as an example...heres a quick list of some DJ's that are better than Tiesto in pretty much every regard...

Laurent Garnier
Hawtin
Danny Howells
Nic Fanciulli
Ferry Corsten
Sasha
John Digweed
Desyn Masiello
Lee Burridge
John '00' Flemming
Steve Lawler
Steve Porter
Steve Helstrip
Danny Tenaglia
Steve Angello
Paul Van Dyk
Eric Morillo



etc...


Posted by DJ NEMESIS on Jul-29-2005 20:40:

quote:
Originally posted by Ishkur
I like the big-ass arrow pointing at him....as if people would have trouble finding him...

"HERE HE IS!!!!!!!! HERE'S DJ TIESTO!!! LOOK!! LOOK AT HIM!! SEE!! SEE HIM PLAY RECORDS!!! AREN'T YOU EXCITED!!! ISN'T THIS SPECIAL!!!"


haha.. nice one kent. I bet you'll be there with your $210 usd floor ticket front and center!


Posted by Nostalgic on Jul-29-2005 20:45:

quote:
Originally posted by Clovis86
Thanks for the fuckin good laugh mate.


i never understood why americans try to imitate brits with stuff like "mate" and "bloody", etc etc

i'll pay a a thousand dollars for every american on the streets in LA saying "mate"


Posted by JakeC on Jul-29-2005 20:47:

quote:
Originally posted by Erotic Buddha
i never understood why americans try to imitate brits with stuff like "mate" and "bloody", etc etc

i'll pay a a thousand dollars for every american on the streets in LA saying "mate"


Fo Shizzle......


Posted by Nostalgic on Jul-29-2005 20:48:

quote:
Originally posted by Ory
He got famous by playing other people's music and hiring a good promotional team.

Fucking hell.


that seems incredibly easy...watch by playing other people's music and hiring a good promotional team I'LL BE THE BIGGEST NAME DJ IN TWO YEARS


Posted by Nostalgic on Jul-29-2005 20:51:

quote:
Originally posted by Ory
He's the supposed number one DJ on the planet. He won't get any respect from me until he gets a fucking grip. He already makes enough money by doing shit all, so why should he have respect too?


personally i dont think he really gives a shit whether you respect him or not...i mean who are you?


Posted by richard raiban on Jul-30-2005 06:58:

Re: Re: Check this out!!!

quote:
Originally posted by Clovis86
Worked hard to get where?


Yeah he worked hard to turn into a clown. lol





the truth of the matter is dance music NEEDS guys like tiesto. its a name like TIESTO who can suck the average joe who doesnt really know anything about electronic music into our scene. as time passes taste evolves & progresses resulting in the inevitable, genre changes. people expand their horizons or just arent challeneged enough with trance trance trance. you will always have "commercial" names out there in any form of music but the reality is, its always the forward thinking musicians who are breaking boundries & pushing the music into newer dimensions. sasha & digweed are two prime examples of this along with many others. so before people start bashing tiesto you have to remember, hes not claiming that he is in anyway "a ground breaking dj" hes just the BIGGEST COMMERCIAL named dj out there and NOTHING MORE.

these are my thoughts and how i see tiesto in all of this

richard @ release

p.s.

LOOOOOOOL at...

quote:
Originally posted by dartrance
clovis: You're a fucking moron.

James Zabiela does not even come close to tiesto in productions. Please do not even try to argue this.

James Zabiela has no clue how to feel a crowd or interact in comparison to tiesto. He has just started to get the hang of this

James Zabiela has no clue about putting a set together.

James Zabiela does have a lot better dj skills i will agree there

Please clovis, quit sucking his dick.

quote:
Originally posted by Clovis86
Thanks for the fuckin good laugh mate.


THATS GOLD JERRY, GOLD!!!


Posted by bobba lou on Jul-30-2005 07:28:

sucks


Posted by CleverName on Jul-30-2005 07:30:

I knew before I even clicked the damn link that there would annoying music on the website. I fucking hate websites that have music. I'm already listening to my own music, thank you, I don't need to hear your crappy quality selection. gah!


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