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Originally posted by DOOMBOT On June 10th Armins plane got redirected to DC when he was supposed to be in NYC so he ended up only using cd's when he finally made it to the club. Flame him!!!!!!!!

man shut up what the hell do u care wether he used cd's or vinyl, you loved every minute of it and u know it, plus ++ what difference does it make????

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Originally posted by SYSTEM-J Interesting fact: women are naturally better at DJing. Their brains are evolved to hear several different sources of sound simultaneously, where as men tend to be able to only focus on one thing at a time.

The groupies at the front of the DJ booth showing their tit-tays.

deep dish
sander kleinenberg
james zabiela
james holden


no more rekkids for them... i mena come on why would a dj who has to travel around the world and back want to lug around ridiculous record bags when they can bring way mor music in cds and take up less space...plus cdj 1000 are fun to use many more options than vinyls

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Originally posted by PvDOBseSSioN man shut up what the hell do u care wether he used cd's or vinyl, you loved every minute of it and u know it, plus ++ what difference does it make????

Wow, just wow man.

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Originally posted by Ishkur If you really think they're excellent mixers....you really haven't seen a lot of terribly good DJs.

Agreed, just because those guys mentioned can pull off near flawless sets just going from one track to another doesn't make them "excellent mixers".
Take a look at Carl Cox, Doc Martin, and the new kid on the block, James Zabiela. All of them have at least 4 things going on at any given time, sometimes more, and they all do it flawlessly as well.
Hell, if you've ever caught JZ live you know it's basically one giant remix on the fly for the entire set.

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Originally posted by Ishkur That is why you see trance and house DJs flocking to digital, because it neither disrupts nor interferes with the way they DJ. But I have yet to see one hip hop DJ carry around a laptop and Ableton.

CD-J's and Ableton don't exactly cater to hip hop DJ's and turntablists though. You can't scratch with Ableton (I don't think) and the scratching on CD-J's is somewhat awkward and not completely authentic. I don't think it has to do with them being "real vinyl DJs" as much as it is those new technologies don't suppport their skill sets.

LONG LIVE VINYL

I think vinyl are alot tougher to mix with, and that is all i will ever use, until they become extinct.

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Originally posted by PvDOBseSSioN man shut up what the hell do u care wether he used cd's or vinyl, you loved every minute of it and u know it, plus ++ what difference does it make????

uuuuuuuuuuuuuuh, my comment wasn't meant to be negative in any way towards Armin. Was one of my greatest clubbing moments ever.

Get laid lately?

Edit: The "Flame him" comment was sarcasm directed to the "Armin sucks" fags in here who hate to see a dj ever become popular. The internet isnt good at showing "true meaning" behind words so I can see why you got confused with my post. Asshole.

yeah i noticed the other week when i went to trance generation. Only saw 1 DJ spin with vinyl. Not gonna say that they are traitors or anything, but i was a bit disappointed

Ferry - CDs
BT - Ableton Live 4
Gabriel & Dresden - Ableton Live 4
David Guetta - CDs
Richie Hawtin - Ableton Live 4
Chris Liebing - Finalscratch / Ableton Live 4

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Originally posted by iammesol Chris Liebing - Finalscratch / Ableton Live 4

He used vinyl and cd's when he was here in Philly a few months back.

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Originally posted by flavdave CD-J's and Ableton don't exactly cater to hip hop DJ's and turntablists though.

Correction: they don't cater to vinyl DJs, period. If they did, they'd make them look and feel and resemble vinyl DJing skillsets.

If you want to be a DJ, vinyl's still the industry standard. If all you want to do is play records...technology will completely remove your usefulness to the DJ scene within 5 years.

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Originally posted by RzO deep dish sander kleinenberg james zabiela james holden no more rekkids for them... i mena come on why would a dj who has to travel around the world and back want to lug around ridiculous record bags when they can bring way mor music in cds and take up less space...plus cdj 1000 are fun to use many more options than vinyls

i saw sander las friday and he still plays vinyl and cd and dvdj for visuals..though vinyl is finally dying..i practically converted to 100% cd and believe it or not i used to be a vinyl whore just like all of you..its just more logical and you have more options then a turntable. with a cdj 1000, u can loop, edit all you want while vinyl u can only play the record and barely do shit with it and mix out..cdj and ableton is the wave of the future, cept ableton everything is all premixed which is why im stickin to cdj

J00f does mostly CD's with the occasional Ableton set.

Vinyls are nice and I love seeing a dj spin using vinyl, there's just something about it, but realistically it's cheaper to use CD or a final scratch type program. I think that you will see vinyl die out drastically over the next few years.

I have a feeling will still exist for quite a time. It just has a charm to it I can't explain. I just like a DJ more if he's spinning vinyl I think

Vinyl spinning DJs are almost boring to me now that we have looping, effects, and now with Live even re-constructing songs. I'm sure vinyl will always exist, but for more low key djs who just like plastic.

Its like someone said earlier in the thread. Why does everyone care where the music is coming from. I don't go to the club to watch the Dj spin, I go to dance.

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Originally posted by Dancing*Queen I think that you will see vinyl die out drastically over the next few years.

lol people have been saying that for years

Markus Schulz used CDs when I saw him play on sunday!

ps.

It makes more sense, you can get tracks faster, and more different types of music that are usually not put onto vinyl =p

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Originally posted by Orpheus Is Dead does that also mean we can't differentiate between multiple sounds being played at the same time and thus can't produce as well?

Not really, because each layer will be individually made, and then whacked together at the end. Most complex tracks tend to maintain cohesion, where the individual elements allow for each other. So when all the track is playing at once it's still possible to distinguish each element at once. If not, it's kind of a waste.

But throw two such tracks doing different things together- it sounds really confusing in the earphones, I can tell you.

Ish- out of interest, have you ever tried DJing?

morillo uses vinyl wuchutalkinaboutwillis!

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Originally posted by Ishkur The reason why most DJs stop playing vinyl is generally because they were never very good at playing vinyl in the first place. Ergo, they don't miss it when they switch to something else, and the new equipment probably gives them some added skills and techniques that they didn't have the aptitude to accomplish with vinyl anyway, so it's a step up for them to be better DJs. REAL vinyl disc jockeys who have plied their trade for years and are exceptionally good at what they do will still cling to the artform. After spending that much time practising and honing your personal flavour on a specific aparatus, would you want to immediately throw it all away? That is why you see trance and house DJs flocking to digital, because it neither disrupts nor interferes with the way they DJ. But I have yet to see one hip hop DJ carry around a laptop and Ableton.

why are we still discussing? Ishkur actually said it all, right here.

I don't really care where music comes from when I'm at a party, whether it be vinyl, CD or PC. It's all about the music.

I tend to stick to vinyl for DJing myself, though I'd be happy if I could free some time to get into Live.

Though Ishkur may have a difference in opinion in musical genre preference with most of us, his posts in this thread have been A-class.

CDs are a pro for trance djs because the idea is the same, just mixing between track A and track B with less package space needed.

however,

CDs are a con for turtablists because its between an
(a) authentic 'needle-vinyl' scratch or
(B) an artificial scratch reproduced by a cdj or some software. aka it does not sound as good and is not as accurate as the real deal.

it's a no brainer for turtablists who scratch right now.


And I haven't seen anybody bring up the vinyl vs. cd sound quality issue. Because that would be plain and simple bullshit.

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