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Posted by Q5echo on Aug-11-2005 08:49:

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Originally posted by hardcore trancer
and yet America sends billions every year to isreal for god knows what.

we send more to Egypt for "God knows what". point?



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If you look you'd see that Iran is in the same situation.They are surrounded by American troops,so for them having nukes is a method of survival as well.

(p.s althouth there is no proof yet that they are making or developing nukes as of this moment.)

yet there is proof that they have been pursuing nuke weapons ambitions well before the war. before the first gulf war as a matter of fact. point?




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There is only one solution and that is every country that has nukes should get rid of them.Not just specific countries.

we're workin on it. we have 16,000 now. Russia has roughly twice that. by 2012 we have agreed to both posses around 2200. thats the trouble with your generation you have no respect for history and want everything right now


Posted by Q5echo on Aug-11-2005 09:06:

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Originally posted by hardcore trancer
So basically it is all about Isreal.I mean it makes sense look at Iraq.They were a threat to Isreal and Americans came and saved their ass.Now Iran is the same Isreal fears them so America will once again come to the rescue and be the hero.

when it comes to Iran, yeah, thats a lot of it. we're not coming to the aid of anybody except people that are unable to take care of themselves for the moment. we don't talk to Iran. we haven't (officially) since 1982. trust me, Israel can take care of themselves and would only do so in defence. this is what i was talking about earlier. it's almost paradoxical the way things set themselves up for inevitable peace when you dealing with nukes. it's in everyones nature to live and not die.

but this time it's different. we're talking about Iran and i hope that we are all in agreement Iran is the single most, and transparent exporter of Jihad.


Posted by donnybrasco on Aug-11-2005 10:42:

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Originally posted by hardcore trancer
There is only one solution and that is every country that has nukes should get rid of them.Not just specific countries.


Yah, create a vacum where anyone who stows a few nukes away will suddenly become the next Super Power by default...I don't think that plan is going to work.

Whom would you rather has the controlling interest in nukes right now; The US, Russia and China....or....Iran??

"I'll take 'Anyone But Iran' for a thousand Alex".


Posted by hardcore trancer on Aug-11-2005 22:32:

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Originally posted by Q5echo
we send more to Egypt for "God knows what". point?


Hey it is your money that is going to waste not mine.




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yet there is proof that they have been pursuing nuke weapons ambitions well before the war. before the first gulf war as a matter of fact. point?


source?





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we're workin on it. we have 16,000 now. Russia has roughly twice that. by 2012 we have agreed to both posses around 2200. thats the trouble with your generation you have no respect for history and want everything right now




I do have respect for history and thats why I dont want those past events(aka Hiroshima).to repeat itself now or in the future.


Posted by hardcore trancer on Aug-11-2005 22:38:

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Originally posted by Q5echo
when it comes to Iran, yeah, thats a lot of it. we're not coming to the aid of anybody except people that are unable to take care of themselves for the moment.


in Irans case who are you talking about?almost all of Iran neighbors have American troops in them.So I dont see how they are unable to to defend themselves.


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we don't talk to Iran. we haven't (officially) since 1982. trust me, Israel can take care of themselves and would only do so in defence. this is what i was talking about earlier. it's almost paradoxical the way things set themselves up for inevitable peace when you dealing with nukes. it's in everyones nature to live and not die.


Lets say you live in Iran right now wouldnt you fear of getting attacked?having Americans surrounding you and keep threatening you all the time?


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but this time it's different. we're talking about Iran and i hope that we are all in agreement Iran is the single most, and transparent exporter of Jihad.



and where do you get that from? Saudi Arabia exports lots of Jihadis,Pakistan exports lots of Jihadis,Egypt exports lots of Jihadis.So why pick on Iran when you have all these other countries that dont the same if not worst?


Posted by hardcore trancer on Aug-11-2005 22:40:

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Originally posted by donnybrasco

Whom would you rather has the controlling interest in nukes right now; The US, Russia and China....or....Iran??

"I'll take 'Anyone But Iran' for a thousand Alex".


and out of those countries lets see which one has used nukes in the past hmmmmmm


Posted by Q5echo on Aug-11-2005 23:46:

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Originally posted by hardcore trancer
source?


http://www.thebulletin.org/article....n=mj04boureston
http://www.globalsecurity.org/wmd/w...n/khan-iran.htm
http://www.globalsecurity.org/wmd/world/iran/nuke2.htm
http://www.globalsecurity.org/wmd/w...kistan/khan.htm

this is a very thorough and reliable site with literally hundreds of substantiated and coroberated insight.
http://www.carnegieendowment.org/npp/country/index.cfm?fa=view&id=1000089


Posted by LazFX on Aug-15-2005 06:14:

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Originally posted by Cyrus King
I am very against this regime making bombs. those leaders are ******s that need their balls knawed off by crows.. but you speak as if certain countries should make them becuase they deserve the privilege of it.. which in the end.. only produces more potential mass death


OMG I am about to die over here, I cannot believe that something intelligent has came out of your mouth. Am I dreaming????


Posted by hardcore trancer on Aug-15-2005 09:32:

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Originally posted by LazFX
OMG I am about to die over here, I cannot believe that something intelligent has came out of your mouth. Am I dreaming????



No you are not dreaming but you are an idiot.


Posted by LazFX on Aug-15-2005 09:53:

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Originally posted by hardcore trancer
[QUOTE]Originally posted by LazFX
OMG I am about to die over here, I cannot believe that something intelligent has came out of your mouth. Am I dreaming???? [/QUO


No you are not dreaming but you are an idiot.


and you are????? Oh yeah... no one of importance but I guess you know that by now, cause you probrobly heard that all your life..


Posted by Cyrus King on Aug-15-2005 17:37:

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Originally posted by LazFX
OMG I am about to die over here, I cannot believe that something intelligent has came out of your mouth. Am I dreaming????


Those mullahs need to die just like those terrorists that reside in the Israeli Knesset.


Posted by hardcore trancer on Aug-15-2005 21:18:

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Originally posted by LazFX
and you are????? Oh yeah... no one of importance but I guess you know that by now, cause you probrobly heard that all your life..



where are you from again? Austin Texas?hahahahaa


Posted by TranceGiant on Aug-15-2005 23:10:

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Originally posted by Cyrus King
Those mullahs need to die just like those terrorists that reside in the Israeli Knesset.


just shut it already, will you.


Posted by ilya49 on Aug-17-2005 20:44:

I think it would be much better if Iran would agree to give up its nuclear energy. If you think about it, economic sanctions will be lifted from iran, and this will flood a lot of money in Iran, since companies would start to create its factories and more businesses, more money for the working people.

But the leaders, does not want to do that because, then he looses control and it becomes the democracy. The leader wants to be in control and get all the money.

Cmon do u actually think that if it is for the peacefull purposes and energy, it will be for the regular people? i dont think so.

and didnt Iran tried to develop nuclear weapons before to get rid off israel? and israelis retaliated by airstriking the power plant?

so how can you trust iran?


Posted by hardcore trancer on Aug-17-2005 20:47:

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Originally posted by ilya49
and didnt Iran tried to develop nuclear weapons before to get rid off israel? and israelis retaliated by airstriking the power plant?

so how can you trust iran?



That was Iraq not Iran.

how can we trust Isreal,they can destroy the wholw region so shouldnt they get rid of their nukes as well?


Posted by GRinLoCK on Aug-17-2005 22:51:

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Originally posted by Q5echo
hey man, i didn't write the rules. nobody did at first. human nature set the rules in motion when Oppenhiemer had his epiphany. since then, we have learned that the best defence against a nuclear winter over one continent, is assured vaporization of the other continent. that is a blessing and has kept all of us alive for decades since Hiroshima.

you can't put this shit back in a bottle. i'm sure you know that. it is a matter of who you trust to keep more shit from spilling out. and maybe priviledge is the wrong word for a country's ability to anhialate millions of people in an instant. however, Iran does not need to even think it has that priviledge.


LEARN TO LOVE THE BOMB
LET IRAN MAKEM


lets vaporize


Posted by metalgearsolid on Aug-18-2005 14:39:

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Originally posted by TranceGiant
just shut it already, will you.

seems like he actually stopped once you stood up to him. G/J

Iran can do whatever it wants, they are no bigger threat than Iraq


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