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Posted by djthunderbird on Aug-12-2005 17:21:

actually I like the album. my favourite tune is "bounce back" produced with Remy. Zocalo & Empty State are pretty good too.. Cant stand "control freak" though and the breakbeats in "gipsy" dont sound too good to me.. But I guess I will be getting one of the vinyl samplers anyway

Posted by ctprincess on Aug-12-2005 17:21:

quote:
Originally posted by scAza
Armin HAS been involved in the scene a long time, why is anyone even trying to dispute that???

i'd say he's only been in the scene (or at least popular) since around 1999 or so - only about 6 years or so - in comparison to other dj's armin is a baby when it comes to being in the scene

Posted by swisstoni_uk on Aug-12-2005 17:23:

rofl, i take notice of serious reviews by respected individuals. The BBC lost all my respect with its constant whoring of every House genre under the sun, and its downright stubborness and blindsightedness to move their old and tiring DJ lineup from London to Ibiza and expect everyone to enjoy it.

Just think i pay nearly �10 a month for some pleb at the BBC to tell me he thinks Shivers is a letdown.

Posted by UWM on Aug-12-2005 17:25:

quote:
Originally posted by swisstoni_uk
Just think i pay nearly �10 a month for some pleb at the BBC to tell me he thinks Shivers is a letdown.

Well in all fairness that 'pleb' is right

Posted by nwopper on Aug-12-2005 17:25:

quote:
Originally posted by PlasticSoul

but since `"76" I lost my respect for Armin productions... sorry.

True, 'cause that album pretty much sucks... I only liked the track he did together with Airwave at the end.

Posted by Thois on Aug-12-2005 22:49:

omg how disrespectful, i guess the author has missed all avb's early productions & remixes...

Posted by RebeL9 on Aug-12-2005 22:53:

quote:
Originally posted by Thois
omg how disrespectful, i guess the author has missed all avb's early productions & remixes...

I dont get it. what does that got to do with his current productions?
Just because Armin was on fire before doesnt guarantee that his future releases will be great.
And the reviewer shouldnt take the older releases in considoration when reviewing a CD. He should only review the current production.
The cd is weak because its mainly full of weak productions. And it wont get better because Armin was good 5 years ago. OK?????

Posted by DOOMBOT on Aug-12-2005 22:54:

76 is a great cd.

Posted by sigmanova on Aug-13-2005 00:03:

quote:
Originally posted by Joost
Most of the TA's are so predictable, somebody writes that the album sucks and they think the review is brilliant

I bet some of you haven't listened to it entirely.

i for one have listened to it in its entirety and agree word for word what the BBC reviewer had to say about the album. it's just nothing special at all. another album that barely raises an eyebrow. Zocolo is okay though. everything else is bleh.

i love Armin but this album is just

Posted by sigmanova on Aug-13-2005 00:06:

quote:
Originally posted by ctprincess
i'd say he's only been in the scene (or at least popular) since around 1999 or so - only about 6 years or so - in comparison to other dj's armin is a baby when it comes to being in the scene

baby in the scene? i think not.

his early releases and productions were just really good. Boundaries of Imagination. the uplifting, dreamy remixes of 2000, 2001. it's just that the creativity that goes into his current productions are not even close to that of what people expect of him.

rebel9 is right once again, we review the album as it is, without any consideration of his past works. interesting to see how the hardcore Armin fans get offended so easily.

Posted by scAza on Aug-13-2005 00:08:

Of course his past efforts have no baring on what this cd was like, I was merely pointing out the reviewer seems ignorant to the fact that Armin's been producing for years already.

I certainly won't be buying this myself

Posted by 3xx3r7 on Aug-13-2005 00:36:

Although Shivers is nothing groundbreaking, I still like it. I wouldn't get samplers though.

Posted by jules on Aug-13-2005 01:02:

quote:
Originally posted by 3xx3r7
Although Shivers is nothing groundbreaking, I still like it. I wouldn't get samplers though.

agreed to that except for ZoCalo.. i really love that tune so i'm picking up that sampler

Posted by ctprincess on Aug-13-2005 01:28:

quote:
Originally posted by [PCO]sigmanova
baby in the scene? i think not.

his early releases and productions were just really good. Boundaries of Imagination. the uplifting, dreamy remixes of 2000, 2001. it's just that the creativity that goes into his current productions are not even close to that of what people expect of him.

yeah - he's still a baby - 2000? - that's only 5 frickin' years!

there are dj's/producers who have been in the scene since the early 90s - 15 years in comparsion to 5 years in my book means armin is still a baby

Posted by Kapedano on Aug-13-2005 01:39:

quote:
Originally posted by ctprincess
yeah - he's still a baby - 2000? - that's only 5 frickin' years!

there are dj's/producers who have been in the scene since the early 90s - 15 years in comparsion to 5 years in my book means armin is still a baby

Well he produced Blue Fear in 1997, thats like 8 years ago. I wouldnt call him a baby, maybe compared to Sasha, but why are we comparing Armin and Sasha? Two different styles. The trance that Armin plays started to evolve around 1997 and up. Shivers is dissapointing but Armin has put out some great remixes in the past and good productions aswell. Dont forget all the different projects such like Major Leage with Tiesto, ect ect.

Posted by Clovis on Aug-13-2005 02:01:

quote:
Originally posted by gouuryella
Well he produced Blue Fear in 1997, thats like 8 years ago. I wouldnt call him a baby, maybe compared to Sasha, but why are we comparing Armin and Sasha? Two different styles. The trance that Armin plays started to evolve around 1997 and up. Shivers is dissapointing but Armin has put out some great remixes in the past and good productions aswell. Dont forget all the different projects such like Major Leage with Tiesto, ect ect.

Two different styles? Sasha used to play trance...back when Armin was learning to beatmatch.

Fuckin great review...

Posted by djmt on Aug-13-2005 02:12:

Sasha WAS a good dj, now he plays boring music ..... what did i say PLAY.... i should have said "Ableton Live Plays" (autobeatmatch) ha ha
Armin plays amazing tunes and makes really good music, t's ok, some music might not be that good but other are really good
Said

Posted by Clovis on Aug-13-2005 02:13:

quote:
Originally posted by djmt
Sasha WAS a good dj, now he plays boring music ..... what did i say PLAY.... i should have said "Ableton Live Plays" (autobeatmatch) ha ha
Armin plays amazing tunes and makes really good music, t's ok, some music might not be that good but other are really good
Said

LMAO...

Another dude with no clue...

Posted by idoru on Aug-13-2005 02:14:

BBC gets a massive + fucking one

If only more reviewers would stop kissing ass.

Posted by scAza on Aug-13-2005 02:18:

quote:
Originally posted by Clovis86
LMAO...

Another dude with no clue...

quite an arrogant fool arent u mate???

sasha made a few rather trancey-productions but I'd never ever class him as a trance-dj per se, at any stage in his career.

Since his early renaisance days right up til now house and breaks have always been by far his main thing...

Posted by idoru on Aug-13-2005 02:22:

quote:
Originally posted by scAza
quite an arrogant fool arent u mate???

sasha made a few rather trancey-productions but I'd never ever class him as a trance-dj per se, at any stage in his career.

Since his early renaisance days right up til now house and breaks have always been by far his main thing...

I think Clovis was referring to how the poster mentioned Sasha's use of Ableton.

Posted by djmt on Aug-13-2005 02:22:

quote:
Originally posted by Clovis86
LMAO...

Another dude with no clue...

i have many of sasha's new live sets, and i have that one on the bbc presenting ableton live and it is really boring the music sasha (i mean ableton live) plays, horrible music, and u say NO CLUE haha i am someone with awards in Future Music Magazine and an important radio station nominated on the las WMC... dude
DJMT

Posted by Clovis on Aug-13-2005 02:53:

quote:
Originally posted by djmt
i have many of sasha's new live sets, and i have that one on the bbc presenting ableton live and it is really boring the music sasha (i mean ableton live) plays, horrible music, and u say NO CLUE haha i am someone with awards in Future Music Magazine and an important radio station dude
DJMT

Just keep listening to Armin dude...

Posted by Clovis on Aug-13-2005 02:55:

quote:
Originally posted by scAza
quite an arrogant fool arent u mate???

sasha made a few rather trancey-productions but I'd never ever class him as a trance-dj per se, at any stage in his career.

Since his early renaisance days right up til now house and breaks have always been by far his main thing...

Maybe it was more on the progressive side...but isnt that what Armin is playing at the moment? Think GU013...

And yes its fun to be arrogant once in awhile...

Posted by sigmanova on Aug-13-2005 02:57:

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