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Posted by Phortastic on Aug-15-2005 20:47:

quote:
Originally posted by UWM
That's just pathetic.


What is?


Posted by 8Wonders on Aug-15-2005 22:16:

Didn't your mama teach you that if you don't have anything good to say, don't say anything at all? Your negative comments, whether they are your opinions really offer nothing to the discussion, just think about that.


Posted by Phortastic on Aug-15-2005 22:19:

quote:
Originally posted by DC-
Didn't your mama teach you that if you don't have anything good to say, don't say anything at all? Your negative comments, whether they are your opinions really offer nothing to the discussion, just think about that.


how the flying fuck can u have a discussion if everyone agrees on all and u cant say a negative thing?? U talk gibberish man.


Posted by Phortastic on Aug-15-2005 22:30:

quote:
Originally posted by Ian^
they're like nazi's.



that term has crossed my mind in this thread also


Posted by 8Wonders on Aug-15-2005 22:30:

quote:
Originally posted by Phortastic
how the flying fuck can u have a discussion if everyone agrees on all and u cant say a negative thing?? U talk gibberish man.


It's a very simple concept, it's called constructive criticism.


Posted by Sand Leaper on Aug-15-2005 22:33:

quote:
Originally posted by DC-
It's a very simple concept, it's called constructive criticism.


Negative constructive criticism is still constructive criticism. The fact that I actually bother to explain why I think a track is shit in a constructive manner doesn't change that I think the track is shit.


Posted by Phortastic on Aug-15-2005 22:34:

quote:
Originally posted by DC-
It's a very simple concept, it's called constructive criticism.


quote:
Originally posted by DC-
Your negative comments, whether they are your opinions really offer nothing to the discussion



And now you contradict yourself?


Posted by 8Wonders on Aug-15-2005 22:35:

quote:
Originally posted by Ian^
that's the way they're trying to make this place now, a place where any negative opinion, no matter how constructive is frowned upon. they're like nazi's.

And judgelex - you can cock off to your little bumboy infinitesquare, somatic were in the wrong over blue on blue, and as a result a label went bust, trampled on by the 'bigger' label, that's not right at all, but it's tactics I bet are used all the time to get their way. Arney & whoever can fuck off because im not going to get into the details, I've seen the proof from several people of dodgy happenings regarding only-djs and somatic & other rumours, and rather than bitch about it, im just going to do what I do best, avoid the label, and make sure all my friends do so too.


Refer back to my comment on the first page, there are TWO sides to EVERY story. For you to assume that we were responsible for Team Toad's demise is ludicrious and just illustrates how little you really know about the situation.

Rather than bitch, all you do is avoid the label? What do you call this then?

If you expect me to stoop down your level, resorting to insults and name calling, then you've got another thing coming.


Posted by 8Wonders on Aug-15-2005 22:36:

quote:
Originally posted by Phortastic
And now you contradict yourself?


Constructive criticism is actually thought out and not biased towards 1 side.


Posted by Sand Leaper on Aug-15-2005 22:40:

quote:
Originally posted by DC-
Constructive criticism is actually thought out and not biased towards 1 side.


That makes no sense whatsoever. Constructive criticism is a well written, detailed and maturely put explanation of your view of a track. Whether you think the track is shit or good has no relevance, it's the way you put it that does.


Posted by Phortastic on Aug-15-2005 22:43:

quote:
Originally posted by Sand Leaper
That makes no sense whatsoever. Constructive criticism is a well written, detailed and maturely put explanation of your view of a track. Whether you think the track is shit or good has no relevance, it's the way you put it that does.


well-said, cant say it better...

it seems constructive criticism has some other meaning in some places


Posted by 8Wonders on Aug-15-2005 22:47:

quote:
Originally posted by Sand Leaper
That makes no sense whatsoever. Constructive criticism is a well written, detailed and maturely put explanation of your view of a track. Whether you think the track is shit or good has no relevance, it's the way you put it that does.


Think about it a little bit more and it will make more sense.

The keyword in your response is 'mature', a word more people should associate with.


Posted by Phortastic on Aug-15-2005 22:49:

quote:
Originally posted by DC-
Think about it a little bit more and it will make more sense.

The keyword in your response is 'mature', a word more people should associate with.


that still doesnt change the fact that u said u cant say anything negative about a track or album...
So u cant say a negative thing in a mature way? Thats funny cause i see it often here


Posted by Sand Leaper on Aug-15-2005 22:52:

quote:
Originally posted by DC-
Think about it a little bit more and it will make more sense.

The keyword in your response is 'mature', a word more people should associate with.


Is your point that people should put more effort into their criticism or that you shouldn't say anything when you have no positive views to add? Make up your mind.


Posted by 8Wonders on Aug-15-2005 22:55:

quote:
Originally posted by Phortastic
that still doesnt change the fact that u said u cant say anything negative about a track or album...
So u cant say a negative thing in a mature way? Thats funny cause i see it often here


Sure you could, but that is not what's happening here.


Posted by 8Wonders on Aug-15-2005 22:56:

quote:
Originally posted by Sand Leaper
Is your point that people should put more effort into their criticism or that you shouldn't say anything when you have no positive views to add? Make up your mind.


My point is that people should take more time to point out the negative AND positive. If all you can find is negative, then why even waste time writing anything about it. I personally don't see the point in that unless you enjoy being a pessimist.


Posted by Phortastic on Aug-15-2005 22:57:

quote:
Originally posted by DC-
Sure you could, but that is not what's happening here.


i disagree on that, sorry. Sure it doesnt happen here all the time but i know already what members here give their critism and negative feelings in a mature way and i just tend to ignore the others (the ones like: 'omg sux'). You should do the same.


Posted by Sand Leaper on Aug-15-2005 23:04:

quote:
Originally posted by DC-
If all you can find is negative, then why even waste time writing anything about it. I personally don't see the point in that unless you enjoy being a pessimist.


There are plenty of reasons to do so even though your view is completetely negative. One is to warn other producers not to do the same mistakes, another is to point out that the artist has/can do much better, another is to make people aware of the fact that the production is a total cashgrab etc. etc.

The actual view presented has no relevance to the validity of the criticism itself. It's the way it is presented that does.


Posted by trancebrat on Aug-16-2005 00:14:

Way to go guys...

Once again another thread ruined by petty drama.

Why do you people feel so compelled to pass judgment on a track simply because of the label that it's signed to? Are you guys that close minded? You don't like the track? That's fine...no big deal. Not everyone will like it and it certainly isn't the end of the world if some hater doesn't like their track. Terry and Pascal are great producers and welcome feedback whether it is positive or negative. I'm sure that they both can be mature about the feedback that they receive...unlike some of you.

I was present during Terry's share of the production of Another Situation and I can assure you that any claim of it being copied from any other track is just plain ludicrous. Any statement that the track is just a cashgrab is just you talking out of your ass. Did it ever occur to you that Terry produces because he enjoys producing? Of course not...it's always about the money for some of you. Educate yourself before making slanderous statements.


Posted by yaman on Aug-16-2005 00:51:

sample please?


Posted by UWM on Aug-16-2005 03:03:

quote:
Originally posted by Phortastic
What is?


That people expect only happy sunshine and rainbow comments


Posted by UWM on Aug-16-2005 03:10:

Re: Way to go guys...

quote:
Originally posted by trancebrat
I can assure you that any claim of it being copied from any other track is just plain ludicrous.


It's obvious that this comment is directed towards me. I'm pretty certain I didn't say that it copied In Silence. The track has some Katana-esque sounds and the build was reminiscient. What's the point of twisting my comment into some sort of dig?


Posted by trancebrat on Aug-16-2005 03:44:

Re: Re: Way to go guys...

quote:
Originally posted by UWM
It's obvious that this comment is directed towards me. I'm pretty certain I didn't say that it copied In Silence. The track has some Katana-esque sounds and the build was reminiscient. What's the point of twisting my comment into some sort of dig?



If I would have seen that it was you I would have been more direct by quoting you. By the time I got to the end of the thread I didn't recall who said what and you know I don't sugarcoat things anymore than you do. You did say "after hearing this i'm getting the impression that they were trying too hard to mimic randy katana's txitxarro mix of In Silence". Yes, maybe "copy" was a poor choice of words on my part, but please Terry wasn't trying to mimic anyone.


Posted by UWM on Aug-16-2005 03:46:

Fair enough.


Posted by isoterra on Aug-16-2005 04:32:

Re: Re: Re: Way to go guys...

well hey look at it this way

thread branching off into tangeants/arguments = more replies to the thread = more thread views = more promotion for the tune! everyone wins


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