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Posted by MunkyAngel on Aug-17-2005 17:19:

quote:
Originally posted by dinoXpress
letting annyone in the booth


cept for imp people like:

promoters
hot babes
owners
other djs



i'm a photographer...and i need to be in the booth to get my shots.


Posted by webbie on Aug-17-2005 17:23:

quote:
Originally posted by *~*Angelblue*~*
i'm a photographer...and i need to be in the booth to get my shots.


Sorry! dinoXpress said so, you will have to stay outside the booth!


Posted by MunkyAngel on Aug-17-2005 17:27:

quote:
Originally posted by webbie
Sorry! dinoXpress said so, you will have to stay outside the booth!



nope, i will not. come carry me out if you want me out


Posted by alligator on Aug-17-2005 18:17:

quote:
Originally posted by *~*Angelblue*~*
nope, i will not. come carry me out if you want me out


if you're a good photographer, and got a nice camera you don't need to be inside the booth for good pictures...unless for some reason you want the close up so close so you can see the dj's nose hairs!


Posted by Boomer187 on Aug-17-2005 18:25:

quote:
Originally posted by zizack
I disagree. I would say don't play his / her newly released stuff, or one of their big tracks, but playing an older track of theirs that they wouldn't ever play is ok. I opened for Noel Sanger a couple months ago and played his "Breathe Here and Now" kind of as a complement to him. Its a few years old so I knew he would never play it. I didn't see it as me trying to steal his thunder and steal the show.




hhmm, I know the bigger named djs still play their classic tracks, like PVD and ferry will toss on old ones. I'd just tend to avoid it altogether.


Posted by Nemesis44 on Aug-17-2005 18:45:

DJ Taboos... hmmm.. let me think.

Stealing time from another DJ... No better way to make yourself unpopular. Always comunicate with other DJs.

Don't try and jump on early... so above.

Don't stop the last track of the previous DJ as soon as you come on.

Don't disrespect your timeslot. DJ's a clubbers alike will hate you for it.

Don't get pissed at other DJ's or blame people in the booth if you had a shit set unless something they were doing actually interfered with your mixing. (i.e. start unplugging the mixer half way through my set just to hook up your laptops for a sound check ('It came from the sea'... Nice blokes but didn't help me much he he ).

Don't start telling other DJs what to play.

Don't comment on another DJs mixing saying that's a bit out when it's not.

Don't comment on another DJs mixing saying it's out when it is. He has a job to do and will either learn from the experience or correct it as he probably (Well hopefully) heard it before you did.

As for playing tracks from the same producer back to back... if it's making the people move and be happy then you would be a fool not to do so. Chances are that a lot of the people in the place wouldn't know it's the same producer anyway.

Cheers
Nem


Posted by Scottaculous on Aug-17-2005 18:47:

quote:
Originally posted by alligator
if you're a good photographer, and got a nice camera you don't need to be inside the booth for good pictures...unless for some reason you want the close up so close so you can see the dj's nose hairs!


Has it occurred to you perhaps she's looking for different angled shots?


Posted by alligator on Aug-17-2005 20:06:

quote:
Originally posted by Scottaculous
Has it occurred to you perhaps she's looking for different angled shots?


has it occured to you that it was said in a half sarcastic tone...regardless on a serious note...we both know that a dj booth is not that big, and having a photographer in there, taking photos with a flash (why?...well most of the clubs i've been there is not enough lighting for pictures)...therefore having the flash in your eyes while working isn't something i'd like...
anyhow it's just another person in the booth that will take up space and won't help the set, nor the show....if she wants pictures she can take them from outside b/c then she catches the crowd (not that form the booth she won't), or she can take them after the show with the dj when he's not under any stress...

so for a different angle i don't think it's worth while to disturb someone at work, let him entertain the mass of people that have showed up and respect the space he needs to do so


Posted by Chris Larkin on Aug-17-2005 20:14:

Here's Oaky doing the Jesus, from Crasher in 2000:


Posted by Scottaculous on Aug-17-2005 20:45:

quote:
Originally posted by alligator
has it occured to you that it was said in a half sarcastic tone...regardless on a serious note...we both know that a dj booth is not that big, and having a photographer in there, taking photos with a flash (why?...well most of the clubs i've been there is not enough lighting for pictures)...therefore having the flash in your eyes while working isn't something i'd like...
anyhow it's just another person in the booth that will take up space and won't help the set, nor the show....if she wants pictures she can take them from outside b/c then she catches the crowd (not that form the booth she won't), or she can take them after the show with the dj when he's not under any stress...

so for a different angle i don't think it's worth while to disturb someone at work, let him entertain the mass of people that have showed up and respect the space he needs to do so


Well if you want to be smartass about it, tones aren't reflected when it's typed.

I don't really see your point because your statements either gross generalizations or assumptions.

"we both know that a dj booth is not that big" -- Not all booths are small. Club Space in Miami has nice sitting area beside the DJ area. It just so happens, the main edm club in Atlanta, Eleven50, can have a large DJ booth of the promoter's choosing.

Your whole point of blinding a DJ while in the booth with photography is really moot because almost all shots from within the booth are from behind and the side of a DJ's vision. The real blinders are flashes from the front, outside of the booth. Regardless, no one likes a flash in their eye, it is their job as a professional DJ to ignore it the best they can and continue.

To your point, no a photographer does nothing to help a DJ set but those angled shots aren't for the DJ in the first place. Those shots used by the promoter, DJ management, the club and various published and online magazines. So you see how important it is for her to be in the booth doing her job.


Posted by zenperson on Aug-17-2005 21:05:

quote:
Originally posted by Chris Larkin
Here's Oaky doing the Jesus, from Crasher in 2000:



SWEET pic... god those were the days...


Posted by Zack Roth on Aug-17-2005 21:13:

quote:
Originally posted by Boomer187
hhmm, I know the bigger named djs still play their classic tracks, like PVD and ferry will toss on old ones. I'd just tend to avoid it altogether.


well, Noel Sanger isn't PVD or Ferry Their old songs are classics. "Breathe Here and Now" is a really good song, but not one that he would ever play as a headliner.


Posted by basd on Aug-17-2005 21:32:

Definitely agree on what has been said about warming up.. It's a skill that's sadly getting lost more and more.

It might be even harder to do than headlining.


Posted by KristineClub on Aug-17-2005 21:51:

Don't ever mix out of another dj's record early or do tricks (like cuts) or add excessive effects to another dj's track! Damn Kromans

As for the photographer thing, I'm somewhat of a photographer myself and my camera is more than you would ever need at a party but if you're looking to get a certain shot of the dj, sometimes it requires being close. I don't mind my picture being taken while I'm playing as long as the photographer is quick about it. A good photographer will go unnoticed.


Posted by KristineClub on Aug-17-2005 21:52:

quote:
Originally posted by basd It might be even harder to do than headlining.

Without a doubt.


Posted by miamitranceman on Aug-17-2005 23:53:

quote:
Originally posted by Chris Larkin
Here's Oaky doing the Jesus, from Crasher in 2000:




Funny when you think about it how you can place the approximate year of a DJ photo on whether CDJ's are present or not.


Posted by Pattink on Aug-18-2005 00:00:

quote:
Originally posted by *~*Angelblue*~*
if you want to blame someone for the "jesus pose" blame it on oakenfold.


ehhhh, if you really want to go back and blame anyone for the jesus pose, blame the romans, those are the people who put him up there.


Posted by MunkyAngel on Aug-18-2005 00:19:

quote:
Originally posted by Pattink
ehhhh, if you really want to go back and blame anyone for the jesus pose, blame the romans, those are the people who put him up there.



very true


Posted by Nsonic on Aug-18-2005 06:37:

quote:
Originally posted by webbie
Altho playing lots and lots of the same creator tends to get lame, especially if its by the artist him/herself.


Like Marco V @ Sensation White 2005?
i reckon that set was pretty good, all his songs and remixes have a similar style and blend well together, yet they sound different enough not to be boring.


Posted by warmregards on Aug-18-2005 07:53:

quote:
Originally posted by Basstard
the worst taboo for me would be DJs trying to mix when they know they cant.


I can't mix very well, because I got my first setup only a week ago (2-cdj200, 1-djm707). HOwever, I can beatmatch very well and I can mix on the fly unembarassingly with my limited knowledge of DJing with only the xfader, ch faders, and bass eq's. For myself, for my friends, and for the hometown I think I can put together a set that is enjoyable with good energy. I expect to improve very quickly into some of the things Ive read about such as better EQ control and phasing, but until then, are you suggesting that people like me shouldn't play out?


Posted by KristineClub on Aug-18-2005 08:52:

quote:
Originally posted by warmregards
but until then, are you suggesting that people like me shouldn't play out?


No offense but that's what I would suggest. You don't want to make a bad name for yourself.


Posted by Nikolas Vaughn on Aug-18-2005 10:33:

Yeh... id never play out knowing i cant beatmatch...

but yeh.. djing for 1 week i wouldnt say is newhere near enough to play out... dunno how you managed to learn how to beatmach, phrase etc all in 1 week... takes djs months to yrs to get it down pat to play out..

i been djing since 16.. bout 18 months now n played out bout half a dozen times... n gotta say, its totally different than at home..

you could be a wizard at home, but playing out.. itll b way different


Posted by Dj_Es-Dva on Aug-18-2005 10:45:

quote:
Originally posted by Nsonic
Like Marco V @ Sensation White 2005?
i reckon that set was pretty good, all his songs and remixes have a similar style and blend well together, yet they sound different enough not to be boring.

its a mad set but seriously its marco V hes been around and produced enough awesome tunes to do a set like that, but hes not the only one alot of dj's do that too


Posted by webbie on Aug-18-2005 10:46:

Maybe we should add "not to play only your own re-edits", but that would prolly upset alot of PvD-fans.


Posted by Basstard on Aug-18-2005 10:54:

quote:
Originally posted by warmregards
I can't mix very well, because I got my first setup only a week ago (2-cdj200, 1-djm707). HOwever, I can beatmatch very well and I can mix on the fly unembarassingly with my limited knowledge of DJing with only the xfader, ch faders, and bass eq's. For myself, for my friends, and for the hometown I think I can put together a set that is enjoyable with good energy. I expect to improve very quickly into some of the things Ive read about such as better EQ control and phasing, but until then, are you suggesting that people like me shouldn't play out?


no not at all! infact i encourage people like yourself to get out there and learn some. im talking about the "wedding DJs" type of guys who play pop, classics, r'n'b and some commercial dance. i hear them trying to mix when they have absolutly no idea what they are doing. they make no effort at all to beatmatch the songs because they rarely adjust the pitch. they just throw the incoming track in at full volume over the outgoing witch is still at full volume. then they leave them playin over together for like 10-20 seconds all the while tryin to pose up at the booth as if they're doing somethin cool.


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