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VINYL FOR LIFE

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Originally posted by spdandpwr how can the music industry even promote this when the music industry wants dj's to promote their music. Why do you think there are things like record pools and promos.

sheesh.

i wonder what the big names think of this? I'm really curious. I imagine they have the dough to get a "permit to dj", which is basically what it is.

Hmm. Balls.

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Originally posted by DJFreaq Hope not. These products aide to a performance. You can do amazing things with even just a regular CDJ800. Fun stuff. So it is quite frustrating that these laws could possibly limit creative mixing. I'm all for vinyl, nothing sounds better than a 12", but would a painter be happy if you said "sorry you can't use red anymore." This reduces a DJs pallete, I mean, it might foster extra creativity, but I;m still very bothered by these "knee jerk" laws. I need to read up on live performance laws and copy-right stuff in the US.

I hear you, it actually bothers me a lot.

Cheers
Nem

Wanna know the truth?

"PPL" has zero authority. This comminique only determines to seek authority for fiscal profit from we, who can be the only republic to grant such authority to "PPL".

In-other-words "PPL" has no authority at this time, furthermore "PPL" is seeking solely to profit financially from it's ideas.

Bottom-line: "PPL" has no authority without our reliquishing such authority. End of story.

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Originally posted by Freak oh- I forgot to add- they plan on charging djs in ADDITION to the venues also continuing to pay for a ppl license.... this will not replace the existing licence

That was going to be my first question.

If this is stringently enforced, this could spell quite a bit of trouble for small time operations. A Student Union for example - if everyone who DJs has to have a �200 annual PPL licence, then there�d be no DJs at all who�d play.

My Student Radio Station has a mechanical copyright licence, which should keep us covered on this front though...hopefully.

Thats the whole point- they are arguing that the mechanical licence doesnt cover digital backups/downloads/vinyl backups etc.... and therefore are in effect treating this as a personal 'top up' licence.

And whoever said the ppl has no authority- thats utter crap. They do have and use it often in conjunction with trading standards and the police. The ppl is a licensing authority and it is required by law- so if this goes through it is bad.

Surely this screws anyone just getting started locally and such.

We need to complain en-mass some how... those online petition things seem to do sod all. Is there nothing else we can do?

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Originally posted by acidHL Surely this screws anyone just getting started locally and such. We need to complain en-mass some how... those online petition things seem to do sod all. Is there nothing else we can do?

I've got an idea. No one will take it seriously, but that isn't unusual.

So... the PPL is a UK authority, right, and so it'll have problems stopping you outside of the UK. Therefore, if you want to stick a large thumb up to the PPL, you play MP3s in a naughty fashion, by avoiding payment, outside of UK territory. To make this thumb especially large, play them just outside UK territory. Because the UK is surrounded by water, this is especially easy:

1. Get on a boat.
2. Sail just outside UK waters.
3. Laugh at the PPL.
4. Play MP3s.

Obviously, this would be quite difficult for each of us to do individually, but there are already 'Trance Down The Thames' all night parties in London, which have attracted relatively big DJs, and quite a few punters. It wouldn't be too much of an extension to take a large boat loaded with music fans, and have a good, long party, using MP3s, directly flaunting the new rules, in defiance of the tossers at the PPL. There might be a few logistical problems to deal with, but hell, we're a large community, and I'm sure it could be pulled off.

I envisage it as a kind of throw-back to the pirate radio stations of the 60s, which forced the BBC to invent Radio 1, without which many of us would be musically worse off. It wouldn't be much, but I think that we should show some defiance, because these rules are completely unfair.

Your thoughts?

How about some "I'm Sparticus."

You know how a lot of DJs have a collective or club that they DJ around with. Right. A bunch of good buddies all end up djing and start there own unoffical business.

Why not. Just all pitch in on the 200, and basically be one guy. It would be funny.

Maybe not realistic. But a funny idea.

10 miles away from uk's shore is international waters

This is complete utter crap there is definately gonna be a few lawsuits about this

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Originally posted by Freak Thats the whole point- they are arguing that the mechanical licence doesnt cover digital backups/downloads/vinyl backups etc.... and therefore are in effect treating this as a personal 'top up' licence.

Ahh right, I�m with you now.

Promoters asking to see your licence before letting you spin - bad news.

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