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Posted by idoru on Aug-24-2005 06:05:

Because I lack a third deck and an EFX, I simply stand there, dance, and enjoy the music.


Posted by Stu Cox on Aug-24-2005 11:55:

One thing people don't tend to realise for some reason is that you don't need 3 turntables to do 3 deck mixing... as long as you've a 3 or 4 channel mixer with everything plugged into separate channels, you can use a CD deck or two to add stuff in

Obvious I know, but the number of times I've heard people say "why bother learning how to mix on 3 decks when there are only 2 in most clubs?"

I always try and find out if I'm gonna have CD decks available in a club before I play and if not I take some along, if the club will let me. Also pays to know what mixer you'll be playing on and if you've never used it before I strongly recommend getting hold of a copy of the manual and having a read so that a) you don't get confused or make any mistakes (like accidentally disabling EQ or turning on split cue) and b) you can make the most of any extra features (effects, setting the crossfade contour to suit your mixing or what you're used to etc, or even doing something like working out a way to fade between levels of cued channels in your h/p with a xone62, which isn't explicitly designed to have this feature...)

Of course this depends just how much you care about your performance - some would call it overkill.


Posted by 2rip on Aug-24-2005 13:09:

HAHAHAHAHAHA - i love that someone started a thread about this cuz it's so true. i just rawk out the jesus pose as much as i can before i cue up another choon.


actually had the luxury of spinning in a dj booth the other night that had a television. so while everyone was dancing, i was watching cars exploding while drinkin my brew.


Posted by Shudder on Aug-24-2005 13:27:

what the dj does doesnt really matter as long as the mixing is solid and the set rocks.

i tend to bang my fist in the air while rocking out loud house music to my wall


Posted by mzvirbulis on Aug-24-2005 14:01:

yes i know what you mean by this thread, but honestly i dont really see how it effects me. i think it is good that the dj is taking intrest in playing his music and getting into it, also when playing a track they are not always normalized volumes. so you need to play around with the eq's and volume so you keep a good overall sound in the enviroment you play in (reverb). also you dont want to much ear piercing high's are the worst. i like a dj who use the eq's well!

eqing is everything, thats something i have learnt from dj/producing.


Posted by Abhay on Aug-25-2005 11:15:

quote:
Originally posted by Stu Cox
One thing people don't tend to realise for some reason is that you don't need 3 turntables to do 3 deck mixing... as long as you've a 3 or 4 channel mixer with everything plugged into separate channels, you can use a CD deck or two to add stuff in

Obvious I know, but the number of times I've heard people say "why bother learning how to mix on 3 decks when there are only 2 in most clubs?"

I always try and find out if I'm gonna have CD decks available in a club before I play and if not I take some along, if the club will let me. Also pays to know what mixer you'll be playing on and if you've never used it before I strongly recommend getting hold of a copy of the manual and having a read so that a) you don't get confused or make any mistakes (like accidentally disabling EQ or turning on split cue) and b) you can make the most of any extra features (effects, setting the crossfade contour to suit your mixing or what you're used to etc, or even doing something like working out a way to fade between levels of cued channels in your h/p with a xone62, which isn't explicitly designed to have this feature...)

Of course this depends just how much you care about your performance - some would call it overkill.


hang on,

u mean as long as you have a 3 or 4 input mixer, right???

becasue what u just said doesn't make that much sense to me...

i think u mean, u don't need 3 channels to do 3 deck mixing, (u can just switch the phono/LIne-in switch).


Posted by Stu Cox on Aug-25-2005 12:06:

quote:
Originally posted by Abhay
hang on,

u mean as long as you have a 3 or 4 input mixer, right???

becasue what u just said doesn't make that much sense to me...

i think u mean, u don't need 3 channels to do 3 deck mixing, (u can just switch the phono/LIne-in switch).

lol, I said it in quite a long-winded way

I simply meant you can do 3 deck mixing if you've got 2 turntables and a CD player (or two CD players), so it's possible in most clubs

As you say, you do need a 3 or 4 channel mixer and everything's got to be plugged into separate channels.


Posted by isoterra on Aug-25-2005 12:30:

last time i saw armin at air in birmingham, quite often he'd be beatmatching/cuing 2 tracks ahead; he'd never mix more than 2 at a time but he'd get one matched, cue it up, then start matching another, and get it nicely matched before even starting up the one before it. seemed to give him extra time to talk to groupies/sign stuff/rummage through his record box etc


Posted by Abhay on Aug-25-2005 14:15:

quote:
Originally posted by Stu Cox
lol, I said it in quite a long-winded way

I simply meant you can do 3 deck mixing if you've got 2 turntables and a CD player (or two CD players), so it's possible in most clubs

As you say, you do need a 3 or 4 channel mixer and everything's got to be plugged into separate channels.


ARGHHHH?!?!?!



ur confusing me more

no, i said, would it be possible to plan ahead using a standard 2 channel mixer with 4 inputs, and using the phono/line-in switch to cue up more decks... i don't THINK it would be, becasue the track playing right now would be the same channel that u would want to cue the third track to, and u can't flip the switch and cue up the third track just like that....

once i get money, which is a LOONNNG WAY AWAY.... maybe i could hook in turntables as well to my current setup, or CDjs,


Posted by Jeremy H on Aug-25-2005 15:59:

quote:
Originally posted by Zild
I hate DJs who do that. Or DJs that exaggerate everything they do behind the decks. They'll turn the EQ knobs, but have to get their whole body into it since you know it takes 30 pounds of pressure to turn the little knobs.
(...)

I hate that too!
But to defend this behavior a bit, I also use my whole arm sometimes when turning EQ knobs.. I find it easier to make quick and precise adjustments that way.. It's hard to explain how, but I kind of let my body stop my elbow so that the knob stops where I want it to stop.. Am I the only one who does this?


Posted by Allied Nations on Aug-25-2005 16:06:

quote:
Originally posted by Jeremy H
Am I the only one who does this?


i highly doubt any of us are the only ones to do anything anymore..


Posted by Stu Cox on Aug-26-2005 11:30:

quote:
Originally posted by Abhay
ARGHHHH?!?!?!



ur confusing me more

no, i said, would it be possible to plan ahead using a standard 2 channel mixer with 4 inputs, and using the phono/line-in switch to cue up more decks... i don't THINK it would be, becasue the track playing right now would be the same channel that u would want to cue the third track to, and u can't flip the switch and cue up the third track just like that....

once i get money, which is a LOONNNG WAY AWAY.... maybe i could hook in turntables as well to my current setup, or CDjs,

lol, you're right you wouldn't be able to do that with a 2 channel mixer for the exact reason you gave, unless it had a matrix input assign (where you can put any input on any channel, like the dn-x1500 has but then that's a 4 channel mixer anyway).

I was talking about layering tracks together etc, which you'd obviously also need a 3 or 4 channel mixer for.


Posted by Abhay on Sep-04-2005 04:58:

DJ ROOG

^
Is it just me, or is this guy forever playing ith his EQs... and watch as he turns some of those knobs... his back must be under a lot of stress getting that knob to turns.... (especially when he's playing with the bass).


Posted by Saka on Aug-18-2006 11:14:

I have noticed this a bit.
I went to a bar a few weeks ago, and the dj there was brilliant, and half the time early on in the night he'd slap a track on and sit for a minute or two if it was a long track and sip a pint.

I lol'd


Posted by b i n k u n on Aug-18-2006 13:27:

to be fair...some physical movement along with twisting the eqs doesn't seem that out of place. i mean, you see djs who rock their fists to the beat (does their banging really make the bass kick louder?) or djs who punch at each breakbeat during the breakdown...on some primitive level, you feel as if the dj is creating the sound from the visual cues. simple example would be if the tune is getting higher in pitch/volume/energy...the dj naturally raises his arms. ever wonder why everybody follows? if you are twisting the eqs to get a dramatic effect...why the hell can't you twist your body with it?

on another point, can't remember where i read it, but eq'ing the track for effect can be quite dramatic in that when you cut out the bass and push up the highs...you are in essence creating an almost painful sound due to how we hear things. therefore it is only natural to scrunch up your face in agony/ecstasy.

(but yes, i do agree some djs are way out of hand...too much of anything is never a good thing)


Posted by mnemonic. on Aug-18-2006 14:04:

quote:
Originally posted by b i n k u n

(but yes, i do agree some djs are way out of hand...)


MARK EG.


Posted by S-a-M-u-E-l on Aug-18-2006 17:04:

totally agree! sometimes my friend just barely touches the knobs for like 2 minutes during a mix. He just taps the knob so as to make it looks as if he's doing something.


Posted by KilldaDJ on Aug-19-2006 12:36:

do some drugs
plan the rest of ur set
dance a bit
play around with effects
maybe do a bit of cutting

keep it simple id say


Posted by superglo on Aug-19-2006 12:56:

well,
you could always sing


Posted by KilldaDJ on Aug-19-2006 13:04:

quote:
Originally posted by superglo
well,
you could always sing


ROFL


Posted by Abhay on Aug-20-2006 08:06:

quote:
Originally posted by superglo
well,
you could always sing


chicks like that. Makes u look like a SNAG (Sensitive New Age Guy).

UNless ur singing to some hardcore satan music or something.


Posted by andydavey on Aug-20-2006 13:09:

quote:
Originally posted by Stu Cox
haha yeah the filter face




The answer is simple... cue up another tune












Posted by DJ_Progrezz on Aug-20-2006 13:10:

bring a keyboar with you and pretend you are playing the song yourself


Posted by r5a on Aug-21-2006 01:36:

get your mack on with some of the babes


Posted by Psionic on Aug-21-2006 03:49:

I would just wave to the crowd and stuff also, but it's kind of hard doing the jesus pose when nobody else is watching you in the radio station :P


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