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| Originally posted by donnybrasco Most Americans kind of view Canada as a de-facto extended part of our country anyways.  In the same kind of way we see the Southern part of the U.S.;Full of red-necks...but they're OUR red-necks.    |
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| Originally posted by Magnetonium Its not that Americans consider Canada to be "America Junior", but the new generation of Canadians look up to Americanism. |
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| Originally posted by Magnetonium Why should Canada then abide by NAFTA and provide 60% of US electrivity WITHOUT tariffs? Anyhow ... |
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| Originally posted by Magnetonium American people are very nice, I just friggin hate their government.[/COLOR] |
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| Originally posted by TheNobleEu I agree, but recall also who's essentially supporting said government. -N |
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| Originally posted by TheNobleEu Can you produce an example? I can't think of a single thing that would make a Canadian "look up" to anything American, since our young people currently have a very popular anti-Bush, anti-war, anti-establishment, generalist anti-American culture. 'It's cool to hate the USA,' at the moment -- it has spawned a whole genre of political commentary books over the last several years, many of which are aimed at young people. And listening to "American music" isn't an example (since there is no such thing -- feel free to attempt to define this if you disagree), so it is much more appropriate to talk about "common elements of Western culture" then try to pass off "TV" or "internet" or "music" as a piece of exclusive "Americanism." They won't, tariffs on our side are already being discussed. I agree, but recall also who's essentially supporting said government. -N |
As a matter of a fact, a lot of people criticize their governments in one way or another. And the only countries that dont have this problem are the ones who make up the top 3 or so countries on the world, according to some World organization, whatever its name was (I forgot). These are Norway, Finland, Denmark, Australia ... Canada was 5th I think.
Picture this: Canada has one of the world's BEST health care systems, so much money goes into it, and yet Canadians criticiize it SEVERELY. Isn't that stupid? I wish we had the Canadian health care system in Russia !
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| Originally posted by Magnetonium Picture this: Canada has one of the world's BEST health care systems, so much money goes into it, and yet Canadians criticiize it SEVERELY. Isn't that stupid? I wish we had the Canadian health care system in Russia ! |
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| Originally posted by metalgearsolid How is it like in Russia? |
So do you intend on leaving Canada and moving back to Russia? I mean I wouldn't do that no offense but Russia still has a lot of problems compared to canada.
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| Originally posted by swilly buggar off you yank twat! swilly |
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| Originally posted by metalgearsolid So do you intend on leaving Canada and moving back to Russia? I mean I wouldn't do that no offense but Russia still has a lot of problems compared to canada. |
Are Russians ever in a good mood? I was just curious because Canada seems to be a nice country, but you prefer the news that it is run by the government like in Russia? Right because they never select information that they want to be known by the people and not to be known by the people. Seems to me like you hate western lifestlye, but don't most Russians want to be more like the west. I don't know I have never been to Russia, but it seems to me like you are another Arbiter.
Anyways I am into history it is one of the several reasons as to why I want to go to Russia so badly. One thing I love most about Russia is ballot it is so beautiful and amazing to know that a Russian could have actually created something like that. Well you know most countries never had a favorable opinion of Russia and Russians. Something about them not being western maybe you could clear that up for me.
But I don't think you are going to reply for a while if ever. That is ok I am used to being ignored.
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| Originally posted by metalgearsolid Are Russians ever in a good mood? I was just curious because Canada seems to be a nice country, but you prefer the news that it is run by the government like in Russia? Right because they never select information that they want to be known by the people and not to be known by the people. Seems to me like you hate western lifestlye, but don't most Russians want to be more like the west. I don't know I have never been to Russia, but it seems to me like you are another Arbiter. Anyways I am into history it is one of the several reasons as to why I want to go to Russia so badly. One thing I love most about Russia is ballot it is so beautiful and amazing to know that a Russian could have actually created something like that. Well you know most countries never had a favorable opinion of Russia and Russians. Something about them not being western maybe you could clear that up for me. But I don't think you are going to reply for a while if ever. That is ok I am used to being ignored. |
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| Originally posted by Fir3start3r You mean other than the Russian women?? I know the ones that come to Toronto are absoultely CRAZY HOT |
Well, I have a very detailed knowledge about Russia. I have studied my motherland all my life, and Russia if filled with great history. I know that governments in Russia have been through the ages notorious for sensoring information. I read most of my news on the internet. And I dont BELIEVE EVERYTHING THAT I READ. I compare different sources. I am not stupid, you know, even though I am 21 years old, I have went through many things and learned a lot. I have been to many places and met a lot of people. But thats a long story ... anyhow,
I miss Russia also because of its beauty. I lived large portion of my childhood in Sochi, better known as the Russian Riviera for its magnificence and beauty. I've seen so many kinds of trees, fruits, insects and animals that there are no names in english dictionary I could find for and which I didnt see in North American stores or television. Sochi is similar to Miami - beaches, palm trees, warm climate. Very clean, prosperous, beautiful. In addition to that, beautiful Caucasus mountains flank the city from north. Beautiful view, warm all year around. 20-26C in summer and about 4-8C in winter (degrees celcius). I miss the beautiful scenery. I have also been in several countries of the former Soviet Union and other places, but thats a different story.
Here are some images of Sochi, Russia that I am fortunate to have (hard to FIND any pics of Sochi online) - I have a book that I can scan, these are some other ones:
More on next post >>>>
View of the mountains from the city:
Other notable pictures:
Sochi has many kinds of beautiful flowers...
Below is what the north-western suburbs of Sochi look like:
City centre at night:
Market near city centre:
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| Originally posted by metalgearsolid How come the ones that don't come here are hot or at least the ones I have seen. |
Those pictures look so beautiful. Post some more. So there is a lot of open space by Sochi, so like it is islolated from the rest of the world.
First of all, its not an isolated city at all. A major highway and a rail line connect the city to the rest of the county. In a suburb town of Adler there is an INTERNATIONAL airport. In Soviet times 300,000 FOREIGNERS visited the city every year. Right now its only 100,000 foreigners, plus another 2 million Russians vacation here every year. The city has strong infrastructure - in fact, Russia plans to bid for 2014 Winter Olympics for Sochi and its mountain suburb of Krasnaya Polyana. They finished builing a several kilometres long tunnel through the mountain to that suburb recently to bolster that bid to make driving there much faster.
Russian president Putin vacations here every year. He also meets some world leaders here too.
Sochi is a big city - you'll find it on a medium-sized map: population of 350,000. The city stretches for a mind-blowing 150 kilometres.
I'll put up some more pictures a bit later, right now I got a baseball game to attend to Cheers!
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| Originally posted by Magnetonium I like the moral values there much better. A lot of kids my age here in Canada are very immature and under-educated, a big chunk of them are involved in "bad" activities, such as drugs, alcohol, gangs and other things. Additionally, Canadian youth tends to like: TV/reality show (example: survivor, american idol), mainstream music, (violent) video games, drugs, alcohol, etc. |
Yeah I have to agree with what noble said but I didn't want to say anything earlier. Due to the fact that I thought he already knew that. I mean you do know that Russia in the year 2003 had 10000 gun crimes or twice as higher than the year before. Also one thing I always here from Russians is that they want to be more like the west or like america. Also the average Russian drinks 11liters of vodka a year. That is seven more litlers of liquer than the second place; Poland. Btw what is wrong with violent video games you feel that they have no story? How about Metal Gear Solid that was pretty violent same with Resident Evil. Did they not have any story lines or was it all just violence? But you know maybe it is just urban russia where they are worst at and in the rural the Russians have values and have not been corrupted by western ideas.
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| Originally posted by Magnetonium It's interesting that you asked me question. I am really curious as to what made you ask it, because I didnt say anything about that in my prev. posts. I have been thinking about moving back to Russia, actually. Several main reasons, actually. Why? Well ... here are some of the reasons: I like the moral values there much better. A lot of kids my age here in Canada are very immature and under-educated, a big chunk of them are involved in "bad" activities, such as drugs, alcohol, gangs and other things. Additionally, Canadian youth tends to like: TV/reality show (example: survivor, american idol), mainstream music, (violent) video games, drugs, alcohol, etc |
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| Originally posted by George Smiley Fuckin 'ell! Canada must have gone down hill BIG TIME if you wanna go back to Russia to escape drugs and gangs!!! |
First of all, as for the gun problem in Russia - it has more to do with alcohol, than guns. Russian people live on low pay and dont have access to guns nor do they have the money for it. Guns are in the hands of the mafia and corrupt businessmen/officials with money, who use weapons as means of eliminating/controlling rivals/enemies, property, money and influence runs the show. Sometimes those poor citizens get in the way of it. There are thousands and thousands of mafia killings every year in Russia. Many of them are contract killings, carried out by professional hit men (many of those are former military pros from soviet army themselves), and people know beforehand that these crimes will not be solved, especially with the corrupt officials. Dont forget that at least 40% of Russia is run by mafia. The truth is, most of the mafia in Russia is former Soviet or Russian military people. Alcohol is in heavy use in Russia, which results or contributes in HUNDREDS of thousands of deaths, accidents, domestic violence, murders, suicides EVERY year.
I can go on forever, since Russia is a big country and there are a lot of problems associated with it. But I don't want to right now.
Old News!
I lived in the more prosperous southern Russia. I met a lot of cruel, evil people, but also I had very strong and reliable friends that I have never got to meet since. It was very hard there, but hey - at least I had some good things going.
As for the "moral values" thing. In my school things were very different from Canadian school. Examples are countless. Here'sa good one:
I can still recall vivid details of some of the more difficult assignments and classes as far back as grade 3 in Russia, yet I dont remember most of my first year grade 9 in Canada.
I enjoyed school in Russia, I studied passionately and was interested in learning. Since coming to Canada, I eventually tuned in to aim only to pass the class, since it was soooo boring ... lame, with many stupid assignments and questions.
Students in Russia were WELL disciplined, and with discipline comes better personal qualities, better learning abilities and strive for achievement and respect. In Canada, there's little discipline, and .... its different.
I am tired ... more to come later.
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