the US has a license to kidnap, secretly jail, and murder

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Posted by Michael19 on Aug-31-2005 21:56:

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Originally posted by Lepanto
9/11 isn't a part of this war. why would i want them to win? lmao. we should torture and nuke them to win. that's the point. they wanna cut our heads off? we will cut theirs off. and that's wrong? ofcourse not. life is a bitch and then you die.

its more retarded then wrong i think.

Posted by St_Andrew on Aug-31-2005 22:52:

Posted by Lepanto on Sep-01-2005 00:58:

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Originally posted by St_Andrew
By going down towards their level you already lost the war imo.

seriously doubt it'd be the same after the war. this war a complicated one so you can't make everything seem so simple.

Posted by Fir3start3r on Sep-01-2005 01:37:

Re: the US has a license to kidnap, secretly jail, and murder

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Originally posted by Spacey Orange
what's to stop the US government from abducting people anywhere on the globe and secretly incarcerating them indefintely or secretly killing them?

first, there was the rendition program, that in practice is tantamount to kidnapping by US government.

then, there was the enemy combatant status given to US citizens on US soil, US citizens on foreign soil, and foreigners on a foreign soil. the US government has argued, successfully thus far, that this permits it to hold people indefintiely without access to courts.

is anyone safe?

if someone dissapears anywhere, how would someone know that it wasn't the US gov't behind the dissappearance because as i undertstand it, the detention could be indefinite and could be kept secret. doesn't this bother or anger anyone else?

Um...and other countries can't do this why?

Posted by donnybrasco on Sep-01-2005 03:12:

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...it is kinda ironic as a westerner when you start a war to defend democracy, yet in that war you use tactics that is in direct contrast to one of the corner stones of democracy!

I for one don't believe it was to defend democracy so much as to defend our economy (i.e., get access to that oil!).

I also see nothing wrong with that, for a lot of reasons.

I do think that the Iraqi people will now benefit from some form of Democracy though...and they CERTAINLY were NOT better off under Saddam and his tortures I'd think.

These attempts to villainize the U.S. and sprout grand-conspiracy theories of evil are just absurd. Anyone who lives here knows that the bleeding-heart Liberals of this country have made it a haven for criminals of all kinds, including potential Terrorists, because every asshole has "rights", and certainly criminals of every kind have them in spades because they are "misunderstood" or are victims of circumstance, etc...

IMHO, we're not nearly hard enough on the Terrorists. Maybe if everyone wasn't so damned concerned with Terrorists "rights", we'd be making some fucking progress in this war on Terror already!

What we need really is to give Saddam immunity, make him the head of our "Interrogation" unit at Gitmo, and finally get some results!!

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