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Posted by A.J. on Sep-08-2005 15:02:

I know what it is, and i agree that there is no such thing as electro trance



I don't like electro at all......


Posted by Soeder on Sep-08-2005 15:14:

What about Elevator Prog?


Posted by Nrg2Nfinit on Jun-07-2006 04:38:

if you consider electro and freestyle the same then here it goes:

electro trance:

k5 - passion (kaycee remix)
kaycee - i feel you (original mix)
lange - i believe (breakbeat mix)
dune - electric heaven (kaycee remix)
kaycee - escape (electro mix)
matt darey - electro buzz
ghettoblasta - I O U



you tend to border the euro freestyle line with this [since after all electro and freestyle are like comparing commercial pop trance with underground trance (except that there is more quality freestyle from teh 80s then there is current pop trance)]


Posted by Tayfoon on Jun-07-2006 05:11:

lol @ underground Trance


Who are you kidding ?


Posted by iammesol on Jun-07-2006 05:20:

Please stop with the "It's not electro!!!" fight. It's beyond old and won't ever go anywhere.


Posted by sm44 on Jun-07-2006 06:02:

its more a dexcription then anything. I dont know why people get all piped up about it. Do we have to say trance with electro elements or electro with trance elements? Or must he say 4/4 beat with trance builds and peaks with buzzing or high pitched synths with a 303 bassline and a 909 hihat and snare, blah blah, blah. its like saying dj sammy is trance rather than pop trance or euro dance. Not many people who like trance like cheesy trance so they disowned it and called it something else


Posted by sm44 on Jun-07-2006 06:07:

Mode Hookers - Breathe (Sander Van Doorn Mix)
Supermodels from Paris - Keep On
Coburn - We Interupt This Program (Some trance mix, cant think of the name)
Some of Mashtronic's stuff is alright too


Posted by queen_vee on Jun-07-2006 06:16:

I don't care what the proper or correct name for it actually is, if tracks like Time To Burn or Kernkraft 400 were produced today, they'd likely be called 'electro trance'... cos they aren't hard/uplifting/prog/tech or pure trance (does straight up 'trance' trance still exist?)

I LOVE ELECTRO TRANCE (or whatever it's really called)

Pure fun for the dancefloor


Posted by Glade776 on Jun-07-2006 06:28:

quote:
if you consider electro and freestyle the same


I guess you could, if you were a moron.


Posted by Nsonic on Jun-07-2006 07:50:

quote:
Originally posted by queen_vee
Kernkraft 400



quote:
Originally posted by Glade776
I guess you could, if you were a moron.


Posted by Ishkur on Jun-07-2006 08:00:

quote:
Originally posted by queen_vee
if tracks like Time To Burn or Kernkraft 400 were produced today, they'd likely be called 'electro trance'


No they wouldn't.


Posted by LittleGoku on Jun-07-2006 08:06:

quote:
Originally posted by DJ Mikey Mike
No it can't, there is no such thing. A lot of what Ferry Corsten plays though could be construed as "shit trance" though.


+1 totally agree

couldn't have said it better myself


Posted by d:rek on Jun-07-2006 11:17:

Filo & Peri - In Your Face


Posted by Omega_Blue on Jun-07-2006 12:18:

quote:
Originally posted by Ishkur
No they wouldn't.


thank you. i was going to say that, but you beat me to it.


Posted by rase on Jun-07-2006 15:17:

So how do u guys think about Super8 & P.O.S pres. Aalto '5'?

�5�s thumping electro bassline and searing trancey lead make it one of the freshest tunes we�ve heard in ages. according to anjunabeats.com


Posted by Nrg2Nfinit on Jun-07-2006 15:31:

quote:
Originally posted by Glade776
I guess you could, if you were a moron.


afrika bambaataa - planet rock 1982


freestyle or electro?



thats what i thought.. BOTH


Posted by Glade776 on Jun-07-2006 15:36:

quote:
Originally posted by Nrg2Nfinit
afrika bambaataa - planet rock 1982


freestyle or electro?



thats what i thought.. BOTH


No. Some would say electro, some would say rap, some would say a combination of rap and electro. Not freestyle. Planet Patrol - Play At Your Own Risk (1982) is freestyle, and it was made by the same people using the same 24 track master.


Posted by Nrg2Nfinit on Jun-07-2006 15:45:

quote:
Originally posted by Glade776
No. Some would say electro, some would say rap, some would say a combination of rap and electro. Not freestyle. Planet Patrol - Play At Your Own Risk (1982) is freestyle, and it was made by the same people using the same 24 track master.


i dont know what your on about it seems like this is a dejavu..


but lets take someone like Freestyle - Don't stopt the rock


ELECTRO/FREESTYLE just like bambaata. Yes not as dark, underground and loopy as some cybotron stuff but it has the elements just like bambaataa. (which basically used kraftwerk as a template)

Your problem is that you have boundaries to your genres when in reality there are no boundaries, everything is hybrid to say the least and it depends what you take out of electro to consider it part of another genre


so to restate, you'd have to be a moron to not know the conjunction between freestyle and electro.


and trance with electro elements or freestyle elements (if i may use that term) does exist


Posted by Glade776 on Jun-07-2006 16:01:

quote:
Originally posted by Nrg2Nfinit
but lets take someone like Freestyle - Don't stopt the rock


What about it? It's electro. I'm not entirely sure that you know what electro is.

Can you tell me what kind of music this is?


quote:
ELECTRO/FREESTYLE just like bambaata. Yes not as dark, underground and loopy as some cybotron stuff but it has the elements just like bambaataa. (which basically used kraftwerk as a template)


A lot of Electro, especially from the 80's, isn't dark or underground or loopy. A lot of it is lighthearted fun stuff.


quote:
Your problem is that you have boundaries to your genres when in reality there are no boundaries, everything is hybrid to say the least and it depends what you take out of electro to consider it part of another genre


There are boundries. That's why they're different genres. Just because you don't know what the boundries are doesn't mean they're not there.


quote:

so to restate, you'd have to be a moron to not know the conjunction between freestyle and electro.


The only conjunction would be perhaps the number of freestyle tracks that sample Planet Rock.


quote:
and trance with electro elements or freestyle elements (if i may use that term) does exist


Nope.


Posted by Nrg2Nfinit on Jun-07-2006 16:43:

quote:
Originally posted by Glade776
What about it? It's electro. I'm not entirely sure that you know what electro is.
[quote]

then you could also call stevie b electro, as they use the same formula and instruments. Oh wait.. coudl it be that they could both be considered freestyle as well (not to mention that the group is called freestyle)

[quote]
Can you tell me what kind of music this is?


i would call that freestyle, Lacks some elements of typical freestyle tracks, not much cowbell or electro type percs, but it does contain a bassline reminicent of arthur bakers planet rock. this would fall outside electro since the main elements (besides a standard breakbeat) lack.

MOST freestyle songs however does contain alot more electro and would be hard to not consider it that.


quote:

A lot of Electro, especially from the 80's, isn't dark or underground or loopy. A lot of it is lighthearted fun stuff.


thats nice to know, alot of it is darker too (with the vocoders on the vocals and what not)

quote:

There are boundries. That's why they're different genres. Just because you don't know what the boundries are doesn't mean they're not there.


i know the boundaries but there are alot that overlap between freestyle and electro



quote:

The only conjunction would be perhaps the number of freestyle tracks that sample Planet Rock.


which would then make them electro ALSO


quote:

Nope.


yes and ive listed a couple



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Posted by Haak on Jun-07-2006 16:56:

quote:
Originally posted by Glade776
Can you tell me what kind of music this is?


omg, rhythm is a dancer!


Posted by Azz3D on Jun-07-2006 17:42:

cybotron - clear and afrika bambaataa - looking for the perfect beat would be electro wouldn't it?

fucking jennifer lopez and that washed up has been LL cool J ripped off the latter in her newest track...


Posted by SVGmethod on Jun-07-2006 19:02:

Marc Marberg - Guarana


Posted by DJ Mikey Mike on Jun-07-2006 21:42:

quote:
Originally posted by iammesol
Please stop with the "It's not electro!!!" fight. It's beyond old and won't ever go anywhere.




Why should people not be corrected if they're wrong? Just because you don't understand the arguement at hand here doesn't give you the right to preach about squabbling.


Posted by montana on Jun-07-2006 21:52:

quote:
Originally posted by Azz3D
cybotron - clear and afrika bambaataa - looking for the perfect beat would be electro wouldn't it?

fucking jennifer lopez and that washed up has been LL cool J ripped off the latter in her newest track...


SAMPLING, ever heard of it? and people has been sampling the beats of bambaata (well technicly arthur baker) ever since well, they produced the original track. and even baker sampled kraftwerk tracks for one of the most sampled/ripped off tracks EVER being planet rock.

and so what if missy elliott sampled cybotron - clear, the result was good and she sampled the track well.


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