Songs That MUST Have Vocals Or Else They Don't Work!

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Posted by Stilez on Dec-21-2001 06:14:

here are mine...

Lange feat. The Morrighan - Follow Me
Silverblue -Do You Know
Ratty - Sunrise
Apoptygma Berzerk - Kathy's song

Posted by Suzaku on Dec-21-2001 11:07:

Jan Johnston - Flesh (DJ Tiesto Mix)
Chicane - Autumn Tactics (Thrillseekers Mix)
10th Planet - Ghosts (Vincent De Moor Mix)
The Space Brothers - Shine (Original Vocal Mix)

Although I'm just repeating what a lot of you have said, these songs wouldn't be half as good without their vocals.

Posted by Ste on Dec-23-2001 00:55:

quote:
Originally posted by Suzaku
Jan Johnston - Flesh (DJ Tiesto Mix)

Most definatly!!!! i lurve this tune

Posted by oDrori on Dec-23-2001 01:50:

I also thought about The Sound of Goodbye but then I thought it would still be superb...

System F - Cry
Marc et Claude - Lovin' You and also Tremble
Kosheen- Catch and Hide U
Starsplash- Wonderfull Days 2001
Darude- Out of Control
Fragma- All singles so far...

P.S. Such is Life definitely need em, also silence by Delerium and Tiesto's "Flight 643" is not very liked by me, but soon will have a vocalized release which probably put it in my top 10

Ratty's not too dependant on the vocals (Check the instrumental mix), but I agree they do push the song into the level of Supreme

Posted by breakdown on Dec-23-2001 11:19:

Infernal - Sunrise

without a doubT!! =p

Posted by Fatboy on Dec-23-2001 11:49:

Warrior - Voodoo

Wicked tune and vocals!

Posted by flystyler on Dec-23-2001 12:38:

The only song i can think of is kosheen catch, and iio - rapture, but they have all been mentioned

Posted by Az on Dec-23-2001 15:55:

iio - rapture
Kosheen - Catch (Ferry Corsten mix)
Lange - Follow Me (The Vocals make this track)
Marc Et Claude - I Need Your Loving (Darkmoon mix)
Liquid Child - Diving Faces (Vocalised Fairy Tale mix)
Planet Perfecto Feat Grace - Not Over Yet (Matt Darey mix)
Space Brothers - Heaven Will Come (Lange mix) (hmmmmm )
PvD - We Are Alive
Chicane - Saltwater (I don't think this track would be any good without Maire Brennan singing )
Blue Amazon - No Other Love
Emmie - More Than This
N-Trance _ Set You Free (Any mix ever, the vocals make this track as well)
Matt Darey - Beautiful
I Used to think Matt Darey Liberation wouldn't sound the same without the lyrics, but the original mix has no vocals, and is equally as amazing

PS - Turbo GSR got the original mix now so PM me for it

Posted by John on Dec-24-2001 04:07:

chakra - love shines through
and most songs mentioned before

Posted by Crazy Serb on Dec-26-2001 11:19:

quote:
Originally posted by barryfigiel
I am sick to death of all the crappy vocal trance tunes polluting the scene at the moment... we are overrun with them! I'm tired of hearing tunes where I am sat there, merrily nodding my head and really getting into it only for it to be ruined when the out-of-place vocal comes in. The most recent examples I can think of are the mixes of "Something" by Lasgo. The fact is, pretty much any trance tune would work (and sound much better) without a cheesy vocal rolling over the top.

There are only a handful of trance tunes that are really complemented by a vocal, for example Space Brothers tunes (and those they do under their many pseudonyms). Anyway, I'm not gonna get into making a list of all the tunes I think are ruined by vocals because, quite frankly, I don't have all night!

Hmm, it might be that you are listening to the wrong tunes, because some of the vocal tunes are really shite, and are just killed by the vocals... it might be a matter of personal taste (you don't like emotional vocal tunes???)... and then again, it might be something else.

But whatever it is, try listening to Delerium - Silence (Dj Tiesto's In Search Of Sunrise Mix) without Sarah's vocals, and then let us know if it is as half as good as the original...

Posted by Narcissus on Dec-26-2001 18:03:

Lost tribe - Gamemaster... I just get goosebumps whenever i hear it loud and the vocals hit in.. wow.. amazing track!

Posted by Renegade on Dec-27-2001 03:42:

Personally I think it comes down to whether the vocals have been written to support the music, or whether the music has been written to support the vocals. It's usually pretty easy to tell them apart: in the former case the vocals seem drab and unimaginative, and the song, which would have originally been written as a non-vocal piece but only had vocals added on haphazardly at the last stage of production to add commercial appeal, would be quite capable of standing up on its own without the vocals. Some songs that fall into this category of having vocals needlessly added at the end are:

Rank 1 - Airwave ("I can feel you over the airwave")
Hi Gate - Pitchin (In Every Direction) (I'm Pitchin in every direction")
Choo Choo Project - Hazin and Phazin ("I'm Hazin and Phazin")
Cass & Slide - Perception ("You can see forever".... etc)

And so on. These tracks were originally written as non-vocal tracks, but had vocals added in rushedly to the final release to try and boost commercial appeal. These, needless to say, are the vocals I don't like.

However many songs have the vocals written before the background music, and are considered to be central to the production, and thus the music is written to fit in with the vocals, not the other way round as is so often the case. This is particularly noticable in remixes of non-electronica tracks, such as the remixes of Delerium - Silence and of Garbage - Milk, where the productions would be meaningless without the vocals. But even in vocal tracks written as electronic music initially, very often, depite the heavy dependance on the musical elements within the genre, vocals are the "raison d'etre" for many tracks. For instance, Iio - Rapture, Fatboy Slim - Star 69, Freefall - Skydive and many other would make little sense if you took away the vocals and left just the music. The musical element, where it has been written into these tracks simply as a support for the vocals, is generally quite weak and purely incidental, and thus would not be able to stand up as a track on its own, without the vocals.

Personally, I don't usually like vocals in tracks unless they are especially unique, worthy, and capable of leading a track on their own (Delerium - Silence, Creamer and K - I Wish U Were Here, Jean Jacque Smoothie - 2 People etc.) or if they have been doctored or distorted in some way so as to become part of the musical element of the track as opposed to a seperate vocal element (Blu Peter - Funky Suite (James Holden Remix), Divider - Stereo Rides (Brancaccio and Aisher Remix) etc).

Interesting eh?

Posted by pnuemo on Dec-27-2001 08:38:

FUCKING... LUSTRAL - EVERYTIME!!!

Posted by shoXx on Dec-27-2001 09:48:

As posted before.. Alena - Turn it around Killer tune!!
And:
Taste Experience - Summersault (I dunno if you can call it vocals..)
Taste Experience - I am on pause
Highland - No way out
Mix - He's all i want (i'm not 100% sure on the artistname)

Oaky played all this tunes when he toured the world with radio 1 back in 1999. Those were the years..! =)

greetz =)

Posted by boy_luke_y2k on Dec-27-2001 21:27:

Can't see it but Chicane - Saltwater, vocals are more of a pad effect tho

Posted by eXeTik on Dec-28-2001 12:50:

quote:
Originally posted by trance[]control-fan
All Ayumi tracks.

Actually... ayumi tracks are the exact opposite- they would be alot better without the vocals

Posted by sector.30 on Dec-28-2001 15:19:

Sipping Soma - Superconscious.......wouldn't be half as good without those sweet vocals.

Posted by Az on Dec-28-2001 16:48:

quote:
Originally posted by boy_luke_y2k
Can't see it but Chicane - Saltwater, vocals are more of a pad effect tho

Maire Brennans Vocals on this are amazing IMO, this is a definate example of the music written for the vocals. Classic.

Posted by BLuEOcEaN420 on Dec-29-2001 15:53:

quote:
Originally posted by infinity
Infernal - Sunrise

without a doubT!! =p

GRrrrrrrrrrrrrr

my intuition that u were gonna name that tune was correct go figure lol

/me kix infinity

Renegade: i understand where u are coming from BUT, if that was true in practice, then how come ayumi tune sounds ALOT ALOT ALOT better w/o the vocals hehehehehe ...the irnony... but yah i totally hear where ur coming from! Jan Johnston tunes were def written to enhance the vocals

-BLuEOcEaN420
~70278330~

Posted by xenderz on Dec-30-2001 12:35:

quote:
Originally posted by eXeTik

Actually... ayumi tracks are the exact opposite- they would be alot better without the vocals

can't really agree on this.
i prefer them with SOME vocals. not ALL vocals..
some...like dub versions would be fine ..

ferry corsten's remix of ayumi's WHATEVER.
it wouldnt be the same without the voice effects.

Posted by nesher on Dec-31-2001 10:23:

i dont have power to read it all, but if no one wrote that. than
Ratty - Sunrsie(Here I Am)
cant work without lyrics

Posted by oDrori on Dec-31-2001 13:17:

Well, the break itself is almost completely dependant on teh vocals...
Try to check the instrumental mix.. they've changed the break there.

Also, I think
Riva - Who Do You Love? (Stringer)

Would not be as exciting without Dannii Minougues vocals and also the original version of iio's Rapture, that sux anyways but will be a complete junkpiece w/o any vocals...

Posted by xenderz on Dec-31-2001 16:43:

someone probably said it ..
but ....

COAST TO COAST - HOME (DJ TIESTO REMIX)

Posted by nesher on Dec-31-2001 17:14:

About lost witness - 7 colours !
moogwai made an instrumental mix for that,
oh my f***ing god, its so ugly.
i dont see any connection the original at all.
the vocals are great in this one.

Posted by itsamemario on Jan-01-2002 23:16:

4 Strings - Daytime (Full Vocal Mix)

wouldnt be the same.. or there is the origianl, and that suxx... NEED FOR VOCAL IT DOES!

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