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Originally posted by TigerClaw And the fact its wireless, It's another thing that irks me, I prefer wired over wireless any day,

Guess you can count out the PS3 then, as well. There are no controller ports on it. Wireless is the future. The Nintendo Wavebird is the PRIME wireless controller. If you haven't used one before, I don't think it's fair for you to make a decision about wireless controllers; Most of the designs for the next gen consoles are based off the perfection of the Wavebird's technology and form-factor.

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Originally posted by TigerClaw The thought of having to go to a store to waist money on batteries, Just cause the ones in the controllers ran out, Is not my idea of fun.

Once again I'd like to state that it has YET to be decided on how the battery system will work on controllers. The XBOX 360 is going to have an option to get a rechargeable battery pack per controller. I'm pretty sure Nintendo is going to go the same way.

Another thing about wireless controlers, What about the response time, And the fact you gota point the freaken thing at the system, Same as you do with a TV remote.

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Originally posted by TigerClaw Another thing about wireless controlers, What about the response time, And the fact you gota point the freaken thing at the system, Same as you do with a TV remote.

Response time for Wireless controllers, using the Wavebird as an example, is within milliseconds when compared to a wired controller.

As for the fact that you have to point at the console, you seem to be misinformed. Please read the FAQ's about the Revolution and then get back to me.

This is a big risk that I'm very happy to see that Nintendo is taking. I'm pretty confident that their platformers will play outstanding with this and I really hope 3rd party devs will give it a chance.

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Originally posted by that article Yan posted Compared to the Revolution, the Xbox 360 and PlayStation 3 are simply expensive upgrades to existing platforms.

I couldn't agree with this more. Though great games are still coming through, Sony and Microsoft are not offering anything new. If Nintendo did the same, they'd be in the same position they are now with the cube. So whether they succeed or fail, I have a lot of respect for Nintendo for giving the game industry one last shot to the scrotum.

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Originally posted by TigerClaw Another thing about wireless controlers, What about the response time, And the fact you gota point the freaken thing at the system, Same as you do with a TV remote.

What the hell?

Dude you're really out of the loop. Wavebirds for Gamecube are one of the first successful wireless controllers, mainly because they basically have no lag-time.

And what are you planning on pointing at the system??? The remote for the Revolution isn't infrared like a TV remote

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why don't you read this:

http://cube.ign.com/articles/651/651224p1.html

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Originally posted by infinity HiGH What the hell? Dude you're really out of the loop. Wavebirds for Gamecube are one of the first successful wireless controllers, mainly because they basically have no lag-time. And what are you planning on pointing at the system??? The remote for the Revolution isn't infrared like a TV remote edit: why don't you read this: http://cube.ign.com/articles/651/651224p1.html

The point is, I hate wireless controllers regardless of what people say or what the info says, I'm sure they are gonna make wired ones to please the older gamers such as myself.

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Originally posted by TigerClaw The point is, I hate wireless controllers regardless of what people say or what the info says,

I'm afraid your opinion CAN'T (shouldn't) be formulated because your experience with wireless controllers has no grounds, at this point in time.

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Originally posted by TigerClaw I'm sure they are gonna make wired ones to please the older gamers such as myself.

Only X-Box 360 will have the wired controller option, as of now. Otherwise, you won't be able to play the Revolution games (however you will probably be able to play the Gamecube games on it... Kinda useless to buy the Revolution, then.) or the PS3 games.

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Originally posted by DJ RJT I was really excited for revolution until I saw the controller, now I am filled with dread... because it looks like Nintendo has taken all the buzz they had going for them over their controller and flushed it down the toilet. Goodbye third party developers...

+ fucking one

this is the worst controller i've ever seen in my life. this is what will drive nintendo into the ground console-wise. seriously, who would play with a one-handed remote with two buttons. worst idea ever.

let's face it- the only type of game this is good for is RPG's or puzzle games... and maybe sidescrolling platformers (pretty much the only genres that nintendo is getting right nowadays). FPS? forget it! with console games, it is an absolute MUST to have two analog sticks for movement... keyboard/mouse even better..

...the only redeeming value is if that docking controller comes out. then, and only then would i even think about buying this system.

wow that controller sucks.

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Originally posted by Omega_Blue seriously, who would play with a one-handed remote with two buttons.

Me.

Don't knock it before you try it, I say. I'm already planning my trip to E3 next year to get my hands on it before anyone else.

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Originally posted by Omega_Blue let's face it- the only type of game this is good for is RPG's or puzzle games... and maybe sidescrolling platformers (pretty much the only genres that nintendo is getting right nowadays). FPS? forget it! with console games, it is an absolute MUST to have two analog sticks for movement... keyboard/mouse even better..

holy fuck the ignorance never ends!!!

This controller will forever change the way FPS games are played!! You should honestly read/think a little about it, before you knock it. It's already been said by several people who have actually USED this controller on an FPS game and said the only thing that comes close to it is the keyboard/mouse setup.



This is how an FPS game would work with this setup:

You walk around/strafe with the Analog in your left hand. You also have 2 trigger buttons at the top for your index/middle fingers, which could be used for anything from jumping/crouching to reloading/firing...whatever.

The "remote" in your right hand controls your aim/camera. The controller is tilt/motion senstive, so by pointing it up and down you control your aim on screen. There's also a trigger under the remote, which would will be ideal for firing your weapon. On the top though, you have a big A button right under your thumb, which could, say...open doors or be used as secondary fire. Just a little higher you have a D-pad which is like having 4 buttons, so it could easily switch weapons/items and so forth.

Also, a whole set of different wrist gestures will work with this. So say you twist the controller to the right quickly; that could open doors for example. Pulling it back to the left quickly would do a melee attack, for instance. The possibilities are endless.

There, I just told you exactly how an FPS game will play and will be lightyears ahead of the "dual-analog" setup of today.

Looks like Nintendo's trying to pull an ipod with all those peripherals. "Hey! It's a music player! And of course, no music player would be complete without..." "Hey! It's a controller! And of course, no controller would be complete without fill in expensive add on!" Shame on you Nintendo.

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Originally posted by Blake Looks like Nintendo's trying to pull an ipod with all those peripherals. "Hey! It's a music player! And of course, no music player would be complete without..." "Hey! It's a controller! And of course, no controller would be complete without fill in expensive add on!" Shame on you Nintendo.

Uh. I'm not seeing your analogy at all.

Plus, no prices have been announced yet. You can't really make a comment regarding that YET.

cant wait!

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Originally posted by Yan Uh. I'm not seeing your analogy at all. Plus, no prices have been announced yet. You can't really make a comment regarding that YET.

Well, I don't feel like posting pics of all the ipod doodads but you have your -

IPOD

IPOD CASE
IPOD CHARGER BASE
IPOD RADIO TUNER/PODCASTING (not to be confused with the IPOD RADIO TRANSMITTER)
IPOD SPEAKERS x10
IPOD CAMERA
IPOD MIXER
IPOD EXTERNAL BATTERY
IPOD ITUNES
IPOD SOUND ISOLATING HEADPHONES
IPOD SOCKS
IPOD CAMERA CONNECTOR
IPOD MONSTER ITV LINK CABLE
IPOD WIRELESS REMOTE CONTROL (for the IPOD CAMERA)
IPOD USP POWER ADAPTER
IPOD SKINS/TATTOOS
IPOD USB WIRE (sold seperately)
IPOD MINI
IPOD MINI CASE
IPOD MINI CHARGER
IPOD MINI RADIO TUNER
IPOD MINI SPEAKERS
IPOD MINI ARMBAND
IPOD MINI SKINS
IPOD SHUFFLE
IPOD SHUFFLE CASE
IPOD SHUFFLE ARMBAND
IPOD SHUFFLE IN EAR HEADPHONES
IPOD SHUFFLE CAR ADAPTER
IPOD SHUFFLE EXTERNAL BATTERY PACK
IPOD SHUFFLE MONSTER ISPLITTER CABLE
IPOD SHUFFLE RADIO TRANSMITTER
IPOD NANO
IPOD NANO LANYARD HEADPHONES
IPOD NANO IN-EAR HEADPHONES
IPOD NANO ARMBAND
IPOD NANO TUBES (almost the same as skins)
IPOD NANO DOCK
IPOD NANO USB POWER ADAPTER
IPOD NANO USB CABLE


So yeah... I really don't want Nintendo to try and pull an Ipod. I'm not trying to hate or anything. I'm actually planning on buying a Nano in the next few months... as a gift for someone else. I'd never buy one for myself because as much as it pains me to resist the ipod's beauty, simplistic design, and excellent user interface, I don't feel like getting sucked into THAT^^^. It seems nintendo has already got the Ipod-esque minimalistic design down, which makes it IMO the best looking next gen system to be released. I don't want to see them release a controller that barely functions as a controller without add ons that one would have to go out and buy. As Nintendo still has a very large younger aged audience, it's the parents who could suffer in the end as their children fall victim to an apparently very skilled group of industrial psychologists.

I agree with you 100% ^^^

...but none of those accessories are really necessary to use the ipod, so I don't expect Nintendo to release hundreds of accessories, each specifically designed to do something else for a different game, and be a requirement.

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Originally posted by Blake Well, I don't feel like posting pics of all the ipod doodads but you have your - IPOD IPOD CASE IPOD CHARGER BASE IPOD RADIO TUNER/PODCASTING (not to be confused with the IPOD RADIO TRANSMITTER) IPOD SPEAKERS x10 IPOD CAMERA IPOD MIXER IPOD EXTERNAL BATTERY IPOD ITUNES IPOD SOUND ISOLATING HEADPHONES IPOD SOCKS IPOD CAMERA CONNECTOR IPOD MONSTER ITV LINK CABLE IPOD WIRELESS REMOTE CONTROL (for the IPOD CAMERA) IPOD USP POWER ADAPTER IPOD SKINS/TATTOOS IPOD USB WIRE (sold seperately) IPOD MINI IPOD MINI CASE IPOD MINI CHARGER IPOD MINI RADIO TUNER IPOD MINI SPEAKERS IPOD MINI ARMBAND IPOD MINI SKINS IPOD SHUFFLE IPOD SHUFFLE CASE IPOD SHUFFLE ARMBAND IPOD SHUFFLE IN EAR HEADPHONES IPOD SHUFFLE CAR ADAPTER IPOD SHUFFLE EXTERNAL BATTERY PACK IPOD SHUFFLE MONSTER ISPLITTER CABLE IPOD SHUFFLE RADIO TRANSMITTER IPOD NANO IPOD NANO LANYARD HEADPHONES IPOD NANO IN-EAR HEADPHONES IPOD NANO ARMBAND IPOD NANO TUBES (almost the same as skins) IPOD NANO DOCK IPOD NANO USB POWER ADAPTER IPOD NANO USB CABLE So yeah... I really don't want Nintendo to try and pull an Ipod. I'm not trying to hate or anything. I'm actually planning on buying a Nano in the next few months... as a gift for someone else. I'd never buy one for myself because as much as it pains me to resist the ipod's beauty, simplistic design, and excellent user interface, I don't feel like getting sucked into THAT^^^. It seems nintendo has already got the Ipod-esque minimalistic design down, which makes it IMO the best looking next gen system to be released. I don't want to see them release a controller that barely functions as a controller without add ons that one would have to go out and buy. As Nintendo still has a very large younger aged audience, it's the parents who could suffer in the end as their children fall victim to an apparently very skilled group of industrial psychologists.

I understand what you're trying to say (and it's a good point) but my mindframe when I replied beforehand was basically this:

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Originally posted by infinity HiGH ...but none of those accessories are really necessary to use the ipod, so I don't expect Nintendo to release hundreds of accessories, each specifically designed to do something else for a different game, and be a requirement.

absolutely. the ipod works perfectly fine by itself + itunes. and i'm sure.... eeh, or at least i hope that the nintendo controller will work just fine by itself. yet, somehow people still get drawn in :-\.

More importantly, I wonder what kind of games they'll be able to produce that support games that DON'T use things like analog control. It almost seems like a step backwards, or else a giant leap foward... so far ahead that no one is able to really grasp the purpose of reverting back to something that seems almost as simplistic as the original nintendo controller. *shrugs*

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Originally posted by Blake or else a giant leap foward... so far ahead that no one is able to really grasp the purpose of reverting back to something that seems almost as simplistic as the original nintendo controller. *shrugs*

**cough**Sony'slatestconsole**cough**



They're taking a leap with graphics but are also basing their entire future on these graphics. Pretty simplistic. Seems like Sony and Nintendo are more alike than we originally made them out to be.

And that, my friends, is how a bill becomes a law.

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