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Originally posted by extacy_bomb What's wrong with taking drugs anyways! i hate those alcohol freaks! Any music is more enjoyble when you'r on something ,not just trance! classical,rap,rock and etc this thread is just stupid

That Is Not Completely true, some drugs can be more enjoyable while listen to some kind of music, it is true that it enhance your experience, but trust me, you won't go into a Regueton or salsa music club, and you will find people taking LSD there.

I personally have tried Caffeine, Marihuana, Cigarretes, and Alcohol.


for example the favorite music to listen by LSD consumers its GOA, and it's proved because of the complexity and the sounds, that are not really defined or straight.
but that doesn't mean that GOA is only for people who take LSD or Mushrooms, when people are under influence by those drugs they love to listen to that kind of music, maybe it helps them to understand it.


The Favorite music to listen by Extasis consumers is Trance, when a Human Being reaches his Maximum Fluid of Zerotonin trhough the brain, and they feel extremely happy, their favorite music to listen seems to be trance.

When you listen to Trance, you might expereince hypnosis, some human beings are less vulnerable with this, and drugs as xtasis might let you be able to experience this more deeply, and feel empathy with evertyhing that sorrounds you.

Now, Trance is not only for Extasy Users, you can be sober and enjoy it, the drug just enhance the experience.


I am not against Drugs (Except Heroin, Crack, Crystal Meth, and shit like that, etc.), I am against the abuse on them, and I think people should have education on them and learn to use it in a responsable way.


I really don't like when people discriminate or make fun of a human being because they are under the influence of a substance.


Many people think I'm a Junkie beacuse I listen to trance all day, I think it's a very stupid and ignorant way of thinking.



All I say about the drugs preferences are in general and in most cases, their might be some exceptions.


I think drugs will always be there legal or not, so the illegal issue about the drugs it's not the problem,

I think they sould remain legal, and people should be very educated about it.

I mean what the fucking education we recieve about Drugs , "Say NO TO DRUGS", that doesnt help in real life, but if you are learn what every drug do to your brain and your human body in general, you should be able to make decisions by yourself.

not just tell me drugs are the worse thing in life, because I know you are lying to me, now if you tell me the good and bad things, I could have a trust in what you are saying and make my own decisions.

Also many drugs in the black market are very often adulterated, and people are fucking their brains out beacuse of this, if it were legal at least the ones who take them, would be ingesting something made in a safe lab.

as someone said here

Drugs should be taken to enhance and expereince, and when it comes to the point that you can not enjoy and experience beacuse you ar enot HIGH, Then You had passed the limit and you should stop taking them.

I don't mean you should reached the limit to stop taking them, if you take them responsable you won't get there, but if someday you feel like that, then that's an advice for yourself to stop taking it.


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Recreational_drug_use


Read, Learn and decide by yourself. =)

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Originally posted by richg101 but im scared that if i start taking it i will lower the effect trance has on me when im not on drugs.

Thats the difference between people who live and breathe edm and people who only listen to edm in clubs and dont care about it during everyday life. I enjoy the music just the same while im sober.

I take drugs at parties to enhance the music. Some people get this effect, others don't and cannot hear a difference sober or high. If you get this, you know what I mean.

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Originally posted by Ricksta they are often less harmful than a lot of things people forget are drugs (smoking/alcohol) and people are certianly nicer/happier people on them as apossed to achohol (im not including crack or heroin in my debate here, they are scum drugs)

^^Classic drug user's quote - reminding people that don't take illegal drugs (as if we've forgotten) that we, in our own socially acceptable way, also take drugs when clubbing.

But legality does make a difference to some people. With legal drugs, I know what I'm taking. I know that one bottle of smirnoff ice is going to be exactly the same as the next, and the whole process before it's sold has to be at a certain standard. So I can be pretty sure that so long as I don't overdo it, I'll be OK. In contrast, if I took illegal drugs, I'd be trusting a drug dealer, and the person who dealt to them, and the person/people who smuggled it in to the country e.t.c...it's that that puts me off ilegal drugs.

And yes, before you say it, I am fully aware that this is the main argument for legalisation of drugs, and I concur on this one too. It would be much more sensible if drugs were sold with safety standards and information on how to take them, rather education on drugs being a poor combination of street jargon and media hype.

Secondly, when I'm in a club, the mood of other drug users rubs off on me. I pick up on their hyperactivity without needing to take anything. So I'm not dissing drug users - you give me a wee mini-high all for free! Thanks!! There's no doubt that drug users contribute to the clubbing culture, but people who say that trance and clubbing is all about drugs aren't seeing the full picture. People like me go for the music fix more anything else (and I'm not the only one!).

As for your question, many people do take drugs at parties - these people tend to report that 'every man and his dog takes them'. This is probably because they hang with people who who also take them so don't see much of the rest. Some, like me, choose not to. Don't take my word for it though - like Ricksta said, think your decision through then do what you think is right.

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Originally posted by est ^^Classic drug user's quote - reminding people that don't take illegal drugs (as if we've forgotten) that we, in our own socially acceptable way, also take drugs when clubbing. But legality does make a difference to some people. With legal drugs, I know what I'm taking. I know that one bottle of smirnoff ice is going to be exactly the same as the next, and the whole process before it's sold has to be at a certain standard. So I can be pretty sure that so long as I don't overdo it, I'll be OK. In contrast, if I took illegal drugs, I'd be trusting a drug dealer, and the person who dealt to them, and the person/people who smuggled it in to the country e.t.c...it's that that puts me off ilegal drugs. And yes, before you say it, I am fully aware that this is the main argument for legalisation of drugs, and I concur on this one too. It would be much more sensible if drugs were sold with safety standards and information on how to take them, rather education on drugs being a poor combination of street jargon and media hype. Secondly, when I'm in a club, the mood of other drug users rubs off on me. I pick up on their hyperactivity without needing to take anything. So I'm not dissing drug users - you give me a wee mini-high all for free! Thanks!! There's no doubt that drug users contribute to the clubbing culture, but people who say that trance and clubbing is all about drugs aren't seeing the full picture. People like me go for the music fix more anything else (and I'm not the only one!). As for your question, many people do take drugs at parties - these people tend to report that 'every man and his dog takes them'. This is probably because they hang with people who who also take them so don't see much of the rest. Some, like me, choose not to. Don't take my word for it though - like Ricksta said, think your decision through then do what you think is right.

You are Right, Totally agree with this.

Yeah I can understand where you guys are coming from and agree totally. I always enjoy a good drink at a party - not really into the drug scene. As long as whatever you take is within moderation you can enjoy the music which is what you're there for

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Originally posted by Pinokio That Is Not Completely true, some drugs can be more enjoyable while listen to some kind of music, it is true that it enhance your experience, but trust me, you won't go into a Regueton or salsa music club, and you will find people taking LSD there. I personally have tried Caffeine, Marihuana, Cigarretes, and Alcohol. for example the favorite music to listen by LSD consumers its GOA, and it's proved because of the complexity and the sounds, that are not really defined or straight. but that doesn't mean that GOA is only for people who take LSD or Mushrooms, when people are under influence by those drugs they love to listen to that kind of music, maybe it helps them to understand it. The Favorite music to listen by Extasis consumers is Trance, when a Human Being reaches his Maximum Fluid of Zerotonin trhough the brain, and they feel extremely happy, their favorite music to listen seems to be trance. When you listen to Trance, you might expereince hypnosis, some human beings are less vulnerable with this, and drugs as xtasis might let you be able to experience this more deeply, and feel empathy with evertyhing that sorrounds you. Now, Trance is not only for Extasy Users, you can be sober and enjoy it, the drug just enhance the experience. I am not against Drugs (Except Heroin, Crack, Crystal Meth, and shit like that, etc.), I am against the abuse on them, and I think people should have education on them and learn to use it in a responsable way. I really don't like when people discriminate or make fun of a human being because they are under the influence of a substance. Many people think I'm a Junkie beacuse I listen to trance all day, I think it's a very stupid and ignorant way of thinking. All I say about the drugs preferences are in general and in most cases, their might be some exceptions. I think drugs will always be there legal or not, so the illegal issue about the drugs it's not the problem, I think they sould remain legal, and people should be very educated about it. I mean what the fucking education we recieve about Drugs , "Say NO TO DRUGS", that doesnt help in real life, but if you are learn what every drug do to your brain and your human body in general, you should be able to make decisions by yourself. not just tell me drugs are the worse thing in life, because I know you are lying to me, now if you tell me the good and bad things, I could have a trust in what you are saying and make my own decisions. Also many drugs in the black market are very often adulterated, and people are fucking their brains out beacuse of this, if it were legal at least the ones who take them, would be ingesting something made in a safe lab. as someone said here Drugs should be taken to enhance and expereince, and when it comes to the point that you can not enjoy and experience beacuse you ar enot HIGH, Then You had passed the limit and you should stop taking them. I don't mean you should reached the limit to stop taking them, if you take them responsable you won't get there, but if someday you feel like that, then that's an advice for yourself to stop taking it. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Recreational_drug_use Read, Learn and decide by yourself. =)

Very Well Fcuking Said there man.. People need to be responsible for their own shit.. I just think the US government is fcuking dumb on the whole "War On Drugs" thing.. they are just making it worse by the day.. think about it.. The more u prevent something from happening, the more it happens..

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Originally posted by est ^^Classic drug user's quote - reminding people that don't take illegal drugs (as if we've forgotten) that we, in our own socially acceptable way, also take drugs when clubbing. But legality does make a difference to some people. With legal drugs, I know what I'm taking. I know that one bottle of smirnoff ice is going to be exactly the same as the next, and the whole process before it's sold has to be at a certain standard. So I can be pretty sure that so long as I don't overdo it, I'll be OK. In contrast, if I took illegal drugs, I'd be trusting a drug dealer, and the person who dealt to them, and the person/people who smuggled it in to the country e.t.c...it's that that puts me off ilegal drugs. And yes, before you say it, I am fully aware that this is the main argument for legalisation of drugs, and I concur on this one too. It would be much more sensible if drugs were sold with safety standards and information on how to take them, rather education on drugs being a poor combination of street jargon and media hype.

more people die from alcohol than every other type of drug put together taking pills is relativley safe its only the media that makes people think other wise

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Originally posted by sleepydragon more people die from alcohol than every other type of drug put together taking pills is relativley safe its only the media that makes people think other wise

Yes I know. This is what every drug user says to a person who chooses not to take illegal drugs. Read my post again. In a nutshell, illegal drugs could be much safer and better controlled if they were legalised. I'm yet to meet a drug dealer that I could trust as far as I could throw him.

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Originally posted by sleepydragon more people die from alcohol than every other type of drug put together taking pills is relativley safe its only the media that makes people think other wise

I'd like to see some sort of ratio of users:deaths.

Cos probably billions of people use alcohol, whereas far fewer people use drugs.

I'm not saying one thing or another here, I'd just be interested.

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Originally posted by est Yes I know. This is what every drug user says to a person who chooses not to take illegal drugs. Read my post again. In a nutshell, illegal drugs could be much safer and better controlled if they were legalised. I'm yet to meet a drug dealer that I could trust as far as I could throw him.

u got to remember though that drug dealers arent gonna deliberatly deal u shit drugs other wise u wouldnt go back for more but of course there will be times when they get a dodgy batch or something.

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Originally posted by Trance Nutter I'd like to see some sort of ratio of users:deaths. Cos probably billions of people use alcohol, whereas far fewer people use drugs. I'm not saying one thing or another here, I'd just be interested.

millions of pills r still necked every weekend deaths in this country every year from E isnt even in the hundreds the ammount that die from alcohol is in the hundreds of thousands people die every day from alcohol related incidents.

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Originally posted by Pinokio That Is Not Completely true, some drugs can be more enjoyable while listen to some kind of music, it is true that it enhance your experience, but trust me, you won't go into a Regueton or salsa music club, and you will find people taking LSD there. I personally have tried Caffeine, Marihuana, Cigarretes, and Alcohol. for example the favorite music to listen by LSD consumers its GOA, and it's proved because of the complexity and the sounds, that are not really defined or straight. but that doesn't mean that GOA is only for people who take LSD or Mushrooms, when people are under influence by those drugs they love to listen to that kind of music, maybe it helps them to understand it. The Favorite music to listen by Extasis consumers is Trance, when a Human Being reaches his Maximum Fluid of Zerotonin trhough the brain, and they feel extremely happy, their favorite music to listen seems to be trance. When you listen to Trance, you might expereince hypnosis, some human beings are less vulnerable with this, and drugs as xtasis might let you be able to experience this more deeply, and feel empathy with evertyhing that sorrounds you. Now, Trance is not only for Extasy Users, you can be sober and enjoy it, the drug just enhance the experience. I am not against Drugs (Except Heroin, Crack, Crystal Meth, and shit like that, etc.), I am against the abuse on them, and I think people should have education on them and learn to use it in a responsable way. I really don't like when people discriminate or make fun of a human being because they are under the influence of a substance. Many people think I'm a Junkie beacuse I listen to trance all day, I think it's a very stupid and ignorant way of thinking. All I say about the drugs preferences are in general and in most cases, their might be some exceptions. I think drugs will always be there legal or not, so the illegal issue about the drugs it's not the problem, I think they sould remain legal, and people should be very educated about it. I mean what the fucking education we recieve about Drugs , "Say NO TO DRUGS", that doesnt help in real life, but if you are learn what every drug do to your brain and your human body in general, you should be able to make decisions by yourself. not just tell me drugs are the worse thing in life, because I know you are lying to me, now if you tell me the good and bad things, I could have a trust in what you are saying and make my own decisions. Also many drugs in the black market are very often adulterated, and people are fucking their brains out beacuse of this, if it were legal at least the ones who take them, would be ingesting something made in a safe lab. as someone said here Drugs should be taken to enhance and expereince, and when it comes to the point that you can not enjoy and experience beacuse you ar enot HIGH, Then You had passed the limit and you should stop taking them. I don't mean you should reached the limit to stop taking them, if you take them responsable you won't get there, but if someday you feel like that, then that's an advice for yourself to stop taking it. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Recreational_drug_use Read, Learn and decide by yourself. =)

sorry im kind of late posting cause i completly forgut about this thread.
Well i personaly agree with you speaking of taking drugs responsibly. i myself had couple of incidents with people that take lots of drugs and don't know thier own limits!
AnD it really ruins myday ,cause especially on E i'm so sensitve ,veryyyy sensetive(like i haven't seen anyone beeing sensetive like me) that when something happens i just flip out and get pissed off for the whole day! ... that's why i try do roll with people that ireally know them and i really trust in them.
Well i also listen to trance eveyrday sober and enjoy it ,but i get high once in a while too... now i've really cut down,,most weeks im sober.

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Originally posted by est As for your question, many people do take drugs at parties - these people tend to report that 'every man and his dog takes them'. This is probably because they hang with people who who also take them so don't see much of the rest. Some, like me, choose not to.

Very very true. "Your focus determines your reality" and all that, I guess.

DRUGS ARE BAD!

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Originally posted by sleepydragon millions of pills r still necked every weekend deaths in this country every year from E isnt even in the hundreds the ammount that die from alcohol is in the hundreds of thousands people die every day from alcohol related incidents.

ha, i think you are just pulling shit outta your ass here. You have no idea what an equal comparison would be from alcohol to E. You also have no idea how many pills are actually necked. You could research how much alcohol is sold even just nationwide.


what I am saying is you can't compare illegal drugs predominantly taken by younger people, to a legal drug predominantly taken by all age ranges.

it's all about the drugs

Whats the big fucken deal?

Whether they do or not, i keep getting asked... "OMG YOU DJ?! SO DO YOU LIKE... DO DRUGS AND STUFF?!!! "


I HATE DRUGS

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Originally posted by bananas DRUGS ARE BAD!

Um Kay

what are drugs???

I drink to have fun usually. Maybe in a few years I will experiment with some drugs.

Drugs have followed music since the beginning. The late 60's rock scene was fueled by sheets of acid, marijuana, shrooms, etc... trippy rock came from it, jimi hendrix really shows this well.

Coke fueled much of the hard rock era of the 80's.

X and trance go hand in hand as well.

Without drugs music would be shitty. Many of the greatest musicians were drug users. There is something about the creativity factor that connects drugs with music. Plus all of us right-brained music freaks are extremely succeptible to drug effects.

Needless to say, I've done em all.

If you've never rolled MDMA, and you listen to trance, you owe it to yourself to try it ONCE. Give it a try, its not for everyone, but don't pass judgements if you've never tried.

Anyways, do what you want. Be safe. Don't get caught up. Use rarely. Doses are key to safe drug use! Use in groups. Know your supplier! Test before using. Learn about the drugs at hand before using them. And lastly, have a blast. Sober life should be top priority. Once your sober life is in line, expand your horizons.

Know your body, know your mind, know your substance, know your source.

I've listened to trance for about 4 years now. I have just recently found E. When sober, I can get goosebumps from trance. When on E, the feeling is beyond words.

Yes, if you go to a "trance party" most people will be on drugs which includes alcohol.

Ugh, these people that just drink need to try E. I had no idea what I was missing.

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