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Posted by bananas on Sep-19-2005 14:37:

quote:
Originally posted by jdat
Females are freaking hypocrites!

So many females complain that in this day and age we should all be equal in the job place as well as home and in society but in romance they ALL live by old standards:

Men have to foot the bill when going out( it's changing but it's still the most common thing to do )
Men have to make the first move ( walking over and meeting the girl/kissing etc )


I'm sick of having that responsability.

No that doesn't make me a lesser man but it surely makes me angry one with all this female bs.

They insist on proclaiming their independence yet deep down inside all they want is to be rescued and taken away on a wild horse by her prince.



GODDAMNED+1


Posted by igottaknow on Sep-19-2005 14:38:

Re: Re: suppose you were with a woman

quote:
Originally posted by Theresa
She was probably waiting for you to make a gaddam move on her, and finally got sick of waiting on your slow ass so left.

end of discussion



theresa owns!


Posted by Tech0rz on Sep-19-2005 14:40:

quote:
Originally posted by jdat
They insist on proclaiming their independence yet deep down inside all they want is to be rescued and taken away on a wild horse by her prince.


True, then she will tame him into being her slave. Same old story.

Whether you are aware of it or not though, these 'rituals' you speak of are all part of a subconcious wiring that all go back to our instincts as different genders. Somehow I think the women are playing into it too much though, and I don't think it will change for some time.

Bitches.


Posted by igottaknow on Sep-19-2005 14:51:

quote:
Originally posted by jdat
Females are freaking hypocrites! ...
I'm sick of having that responsability.

get some balls and stop whining like a pathetic emo.


Posted by Orbax on Sep-19-2005 16:26:

think nothing of it. this has caused a major issue between me and some of my friend for a while. Then we started comparing notes and even my friend who is married says his wife does this all the time.

Women turn OFF at night. They all of a sudden just fucking go to bed. Dont be offended. Mainly be glad she stayed up that late because most girls cant!


Posted by medinaM5 on Sep-19-2005 16:35:

unless of course shes got a few drinks in her


Posted by Orbax on Sep-19-2005 16:40:

When they drink it only changes the time they turn off. Ive just gotten used to the abrubt leaving. I agree that you should always end the night if you can, like...realize they are getting sleepy and say "ok im letting you go to bed" and then bail. Unless you are going to do the aforementioned "moves" then just quit out and try to think of something to do during the DAY one of these times so it isnt either party or a date. Just fun. and try holding hands FTLOG. They love it, and its not like it leads to F***ing


Posted by bananas on Sep-19-2005 16:42:

quote:
Originally posted by igottaknow
get some balls and stop whining like a pathetic emo.

i don't think he was serious sir.


Posted by medinaM5 on Sep-19-2005 16:47:

quote:
Originally posted by Orbax
When they drink it only changes the time they turn off. Ive just gotten used to the abrubt leaving. I agree that you should always end the night if you can, like...realize they are getting sleepy and say "ok im letting you go to bed" and then bail. Unless you are going to do the aforementioned "moves" then just quit out and try to think of something to do during the DAY one of these times so it isnt either party or a date. Just fun. and try holding hands FTLOG. They love it, and its not like it leads to F***ing


very true...the holding of the hands always scores points

i need to get part of this alliance in your sig bro...completely agree, seattle females are beat!


Posted by Orbax on Sep-19-2005 16:56:

I have a friend from cali up right now, and she can't stop commenting on how much cuter girls are down in Cali. It pretty much comes down to women here not trying at ALL. They don't wear cute clothes, have no eye for fashion so they couldn't even kick it up a notch if they wanted to, no make up, they dont work out...

feels like im surrounded by a bunch of lesbians, but that isn't true because all they do all day is bitch about how hard it is to "find a guy"

you know what bitch! guys find YOU when you're hot, get out there and show your shit! gah!


Posted by medinaM5 on Sep-19-2005 17:00:

yeah i bet...california females > seattle females

well shit, the rest of america females > seattle females


Posted by Allied Nations on Sep-19-2005 17:07:

quote:
Originally posted by trance4life627
yeah i bet...california females > seattle females

well shit, the rest of america females > seattle females


Cali females > most other females..


orbax seattle sucks, why the hell are u living there? dont give me bullshit answer like college or something...

move south like the birds!


Posted by medinaM5 on Sep-19-2005 17:09:

quote:
Originally posted by dinoXpress
Cali females > most other females..


orbax seattle sucks, why the hell are u living there? dont give me bullshit answer like college or something...

move south like the birds!


seattle does suck


Posted by Orbax on Sep-19-2005 17:15:

I just came back from camping at Mt. Rainier, Ill be posting pictures later today...outdoor life rules, the whole state is beautiful, job market rocks, basically, I think this place is PERFECT. Ive travelled around the world and never want to go anywhere other than here when im done. Technology rules here, awesome education, smart influences, good coastal influence, food, night life, culture...its quick to change and fun to watch...


I love it all. city life, outdoors, suburbia. Its all cool here. So much life! Best scuba in the world, island hopping, largest hops producer in the world, beer is sooo good here.

Can get involved in some pretty heavy politics here, we are close to Canada, can do any sport within 2 hour drive. Scuba to flying, paragliding, rock climbing, surfing...name a sport we have it, and have it good!

The only thing I would change is people. NWs are shy, hard to talk to, and for the most part, inexperienced. With ALL THIS SHIT TO DO no one ever does it. They sit at home and cry with the rain when they should be out playing basketball and getting soaked, or going on a run, or even stayin inside AT THE GYM. With all the free time and gyms being 18 a month for membership no excuse!

So...yeah, its a bunch of people who are 25 and act like they are 19. No life experience, no motivation...they kill me.

and the women! gah!

Ive made many a plan to go vacation in other parts of the country for a while and try to get some girl to come back with me.

Although right now I have 3 girls moving in from around the country that we have convinced that this place rocks and that should be a good thing.

So yeah...best place on earth, just need to bring some new female culture in here, which isn't too hard.


Posted by igottaknow on Sep-19-2005 17:20:

quote:
Originally posted by bananas
i don't think he was serious sir.

sorry my anti-emo overide took over


Posted by medinaM5 on Sep-19-2005 17:21:

are u on the eastside, or in seattle?


Posted by Orbax on Sep-19-2005 17:29:

quahmpton hehe.


Posted by medinaM5 on Sep-19-2005 17:31:

quote:
Originally posted by Orbax
quahmpton hehe.


damn thats out there....like 15 mins up I-90 to sea town eh?


Posted by Orbax on Sep-19-2005 17:33:

aye. Although I ride the bike so I get commuter there and back usually. Im at UW daily...its not that bad though, im used to trips to bham every week so 15 is barely worth puttin in the headphones for


Posted by jdat on Sep-19-2005 17:54:

quote:
Originally posted by igottaknow
get some balls and stop whining like a pathetic emo.


Be that as it may I wouldn't expect any different of a reaction from someone who was brought up and let's out a stereotypical image of living through old rules.

For those who thought I wasn't serious you are wrong. I meant what I said each and every single word of it( apart from the crossing over off course)!

Sorry but I view this particular way of things to be intricately flawed.


Posted by igottaknow on Sep-19-2005 17:59:

quote:
Originally posted by jdat
Be that as it may I wouldn't expect any different of a reaction from someone who was brought up and let's out a stereotypical image of living through old rules.

For those who thought I wasn't serious you are wrong. I meant what I said each and every single word of it( apart from the crossing over off course)!

Sorry but I view this particular way of things to be intricately flawed.
if thats the way you feel thats fine ment nothing personal in my comment. my beliefs is if you really want something you have to be proactive and get it. this applies to both males and females. can't stand ppl who sit there and do nothing then blame the other person for their inaction.


Posted by jdat on Sep-19-2005 18:07:

quote:
Originally posted by igottaknow
if thats the way you feel thats fine ment nothing personal in my comment. my beliefs is if you really want something you have to be proactive and get it. this applies to both males and females. can't stand ppl who sit there and do nothing then blame the other person for their inaction.


I do agree on not being pleased by sit on your ass be inactive type of people ... you get the point

But this whole thing with girls that's just lame. 99% of the responsability is on the male. That's stupid.


Posted by Orbax on Sep-19-2005 18:07:

inately/intrinsically?

I dont know if I necessarily disagree with the guy footing the bill, etc...

I just would like to point out that there are other things to do with people besides spend money. What do you and your friends do when you want to have a good night? A few beers, some hilarious movies, and walking around the city.

thats like 5 bucks a person, if that, especially if you already have booze. Or just hop in the car and go to some local monument or something, and pretend to be deep

basically, there are a million ways to entertain a woman for free, and I think it needs to be YOUR decision to take them out once you feel like making the next step. Why waste the cash when you dont even know what you feel yet?

the flipside, however, is where the system has been failing. Women are more and more afraid to show feelings, reciprocate, etc...

The old saying of "men choose, women decide" has become more of a "keep on pressing until they get fucked up enough to make some bad decisions with you" and thats bullshit. Every guy just sits there waiting until they have spent enough time and bullshit energy on some bitch until she lets her self control go and decides to have a good time.

Maybe girls wouldnt have to worry about what they do drunk if, when sober, they went through the same bs guys have to do with showing affection. We have a generation lost in the space of their own minds not realizing that there HAVE to be physical showings of affection or men especially, who by the VAST majority use touch as a way of showing love, will lose all interest.

Everyone is fucked on both sides, and recently Ive been seeing a return to old fashioned courting rituals to be working better for people. telling girls your intentions with them, holding hands, hugs, basically man power moves. Simple, yet effective.

The women still need to respond though. Tell us SOMETHING.

I also understand that men are generally closed books, dont try that hard, are just as confused/confusing as women, and the whole thing is fucked.

My main points would be : dont try so hard, spend more time before you spend more money, and act more than you tell.

-

just because someone inevitably calls me on the no gf/virgin thing,




I care what you think.


Posted by weymouth on Sep-19-2005 18:11:

What kind of relationship do you have with this girl?

A) You are good friends and have been for a long time and she trusts you as a friend. You want to sleep with her. If this is the case then she probably left not thinking anything of it than a friend saying bye to another friend.

B) You two are dating, seeing each other, or mutually interested. She was waiting for the move or trying to see if she wanted to seriously date you.

C) Your conversation with this girl on her porch was actually you looking through her window as she watched TV until 4 am and went to sleep. This means you are in.

We need specifics. During this conversation was there any physical contact at all? What did you talk about? If you talked about her past baggage then she was using you to vent some frustrations and you arent hitting it at all.


Posted by Slylee on Sep-19-2005 18:14:

"suppose you were with a woman..."


yea umm stop right there and remember where you are.


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