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Originally posted by idoru The crossfader on my 62 works absolutely fine for scratching. As for my thoughts on the 600, it's pretty nice. The one thing that I don't like is that the EQ knobs are too fat and the faders are too wide. I like the smaller sizes on my 62.

Have you put a new crossfader in then or done something clever? As you buy it, a Xone 62 only has a gradual dipless and a gradual dipped crossfade curve... I think just about every scratch DJ on the planet would say they wouldn't touch a mixer without a sharp crossfader curve.

I actually like the EQ knobs, although this is probably more because of the spacing between them than the size of them (Xone92 is the major loser here - as far as I'm concerned the space between the eq knobs is the only thing that stops the xone92 from being a practically perfect mixer!).

I think the faders are good, personally I don't like the faders on the Xone62 as it's hard to grab them and move them quickly... I appreciate most people with a Xone62 aren't too interested in quick cutting or throwing a track in etc, but for that kind of thing I find a flat fader tends to be a lot better.


And a beatcounter doesn't really help with beatmatching... it'll show you if you're roughly in the right ballpark but that's about it, and for that you'd have to keep switching the bpm counter between the channels to see the tempo of each as there's only one counter, so it wouldn't be particularly good for that.

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Originally posted by take5 do beatcounter help with beatmatching a lot? cuz im kida newb with beatmatching and i was thinking getting djm-500 which has beatcounter as well as djm-600

no, practice helps with beatmatching a lot

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Originally posted by Tony Morello no, practice helps with beatmatching a lot

+1

thanx for all ur replies u guys.

wut im actually lookin for from the mixer is EQ, effects, and all that for just regular mixing edm.

any more inputs on the EQ? thats wut i really am lookin for. and also effects. is there a mixer which has better EQ and effects overall around the same price as the djm600?

im pretty broke now, so im saving up my money for xmas to get me one. its pretty expensive and im planning to get a used one. plz give me opinions of any other mixers that fit me better, and the cheaper the better (in my case

thanx.

I dunno if your looking for a 4 channel mixer or not etc...

But check out the Numark dmx 06 (think its called that)... 2 channel mixer, effects and built like a tank.. smooth EQs aswell..

Retails here in Australia for around $500 ... not sure what the price is in other countries

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Originally posted by Nikolas Vaughn I dunno if your looking for a 4 channel mixer or not etc... But check out the Numark dmx 06 (think its called that)... 2 channel mixer, effects and built like a tank.. smooth EQs aswell.. Retails here in Australia for around $500 ... not sure what the price is in other countries

If you paid $500 for it you paid too much!

I have owned the dxm 06 for a little over a year, its hardly built like a tank, the left upfader dosent work at all anymore (ordering a replacement) and the right upfader and headphone volume controls are starting to play up.

Its definatly a good beginner mixer but in terms of quality it dosent hold a candle to the more expensive mixers

sorry dude but it does not seem like you have used any decent mixer if you offer that kind of praise to the numark especially if you've paid 500 for it. on the other hand, the numark is a good buy if you were to have purchased it for 250 or less like i did. In any event the djm-600 retails for about 1000$ so if you are gonna spend 1000$ you may as well get the ecler nuo5 it has effects(really really good ones might i add) or the rane empath. it all depends on how many channels you want. Personally the pioneer is just too pricey now if it sold for 699 i would buy it

i need 2, 3 max.
wut im lookin for is left/right balance on each channel.
i checked out the numark, it seems ok, but from my experience its not toooooo reliable.

is behringer any good or r they crap?

Yeh.. they're around $500 Australian.... thats probably around $350 US...

Just checked from someone and they said they picked theres up for $439 Australian ... round the $300 US mark.. i reckon its a good buy and a great mixer for its price.. tell me another one for that price which has the features n is that good

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Originally posted by Nikolas Vaughn Yeh.. they're around $500 Australian.... thats probably around $350 US... Just checked from someone and they said they picked theres up for $439 Australian ... round the $300 US mark.. i reckon its a good buy and a great mixer for its price.. tell me another one for that price which has the features n is that good

Mine was roughly 400 i think, but i bought decks at the same time as well. I couldnt tell you something for that price with the features, sure for that price its decent but if i could go back i'd shell out a bit of extra money to get better quality and something that will last longer than a year of bedroom use.

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Originally posted by stefanoc i need 2, 3 max. wut im lookin for is left/right balance on each channel. i checked out the numark, it seems ok, but from my experience its not toooooo reliable. is behringer any good or r they crap?

behringer is of worse quality than numark, if you're worried about the quality of numark avoid behringer at all costs

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Originally posted by stefanoc thanx for all ur replies u guys. wut im actually lookin for from the mixer is EQ, effects, and all that for just regular mixing edm. any more inputs on the EQ? thats wut i really am lookin for. and also effects. is there a mixer which has better EQ and effects overall around the same price as the djm600? im pretty broke now, so im saving up my money for xmas to get me one. its pretty expensive and im planning to get a used one. plz give me opinions of any other mixers that fit me better, and the cheaper the better (in my case thanx.

The Denon DN-X1500 has (in my opinion) got better EQ and effects than the DJM600 - most of the effects are the same (they blatantly ripped them off!), but a few are improved and they've added a couple.

The Denon has better sound quality as well, the sampler is separate from the FX unit which is useful, some things about the sampler are better, others not so. And it's about the same price (depending on where you get it from)

But it has it's downsides... like a slight lag on the channel faders (crossfader is fine, so you can use that for cutting etc) which still hasn't been fixed with updates (you can give it updates via USB but so far they've only brought out one) and the whole mixer feels slightly more fragile... it's still well built and will last, just doesn't really feel like you could throw it down the stairs like the Pioneer does (not that I recommend you do this... was just an example!)

Re: pioneer djm-600

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Originally posted by stefanoc any of u guys own this mixer? any reviews? and does anyone know of any other mixer thats as good as the djm600?

I sold mine and now I have the xone 62 and the sound quality is in a different class.
I can actually turn up the volume without getting all the hiss I got from the DJM.
Pioneer makes crappy mixers. Their CD decks are good though.
I would buy a allen & heath 62 or an allen & heath 32 over the djm.
I am glad I got rid of it and if I knew more about mixers I (how to read the specs ect.)
I wouldn't have got one in the first place.

To be fair there are some cool things about the djm. One cool feature that I miss is the sampler. You can sample stuff and loop it over certain sections of the song .
Or you can re-edit on the fly.
Another plus is the way its layed out. It is very "dj friendly".
But on the other hand the components used to build this mixer are cheap
and the eq's are a joke.
The quality of the effects degrades within months .

Dont worry about beat counters and shit like that.
Using beat counters doesn't teach you djing.
Plus you cant rely on them to mix because 2 songs can be playing at
129 bpm, but you will still be off because one will be playing at 128,9945
and the other at 129,0425.
Thats why every time you log on to Pioneer pro dj forum you always see some idiot posting ''My cdjs are not holding their tempo''
"I have both tracks at 132 start them on beat but they drift"
''How can I get them fixed?''

Anyways unless you are in the ''tablism'' thing I would highly recomend allen & heath.

i dont care about beatmatching, i can do that myself.
but sampler looping is a good feature that i like to have.

thanx for all ur reviews u guys. i would really appreciate any more opinions

Why doesn't anybody look at 2 channel mixers? Most people don't have more than 2 decks on at a time...you can easy switch from cdj to vinyl with that little line/phono switch on the top of most mixers...

numark build quality is terrible , ive had the djm for about 2years now, i love it i had a 62 for a while but hated the loooooong slow faders which as was said is crap for cutting and the likes 600 is a workhorse cant go wrong

why don't you get an effects unit instead

Its a great mixer and over the last 3 years, I'd say 90% of the gigs I've played, this was the mixer they used. So get comfortable on this thing, and you'll be in a good position.

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Originally posted by SpecRadio Why doesn't anybody look at 2 channel mixers? Most people don't have more than 2 decks on at a time...you can easy switch from cdj to vinyl with that little line/phono switch on the top of most mixers...

Even if you don't normally have 2 tunes playing at once, it's always useful to know that you've got that option to expand to as you start to experiment.

With 4 channels you can also cue up another tune, even if you're not gonna play it yet - just get it ready a bit in advance.

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Originally posted by spdandpwr Personally the pioneer is just too pricey now if it sold for 699 i would buy it

Last year I got one for $689 (with the $200 rebate). I have since upgraded to a Xone:92. The only thing I miss about the DJM is the sampler, but I'm planning on getting a PVDJ Grabber soon. As far as effects, I use an EFX-500, which I like much better than the ones on the DJM. You should seriously consider the Ecler Nuo5 and the Xone:62. They are roughly the same price as the DJM, and of much higher quality. With the Nuo, you'll lose the sampler (once again, I recommend the PVDJ Grabber). With the Xone:62, you'll lose the sampler and effects, but you gain filters, which sound better, and are more fun, than the effects on the DJM.

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