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Posted by Briden on Oct-07-2005 06:51:

quote:
Originally posted by PutBoy
Call me crazy anyone, but I think we'll self-destruct soon :S

7 years and a bit: http://www.2012.com.au/


Posted by Xtracktor on Oct-07-2005 10:19:

quote:
Originally posted by PutBoy
You know, they are on their way to invent trinary. I don't know if they're finished, but they are working on it.

Man, science today isn't what it was a hundred years ago :S Took man thousands of years to go from the wheelwagon to the car, and then less than half a centuary to go from the car to the spaceship.

Call me crazy anyone, but I think we'll self-destruct soon :S


thats nuts...whole new concept of doing things, it could seriouslly become a weapon


Posted by PutBoy on Oct-07-2005 11:53:

quote:
Originally posted by PutBoy
You know, they are on their way to invent trinary. I don't know if they're finished, but they are working on it.


Guess what I just found ;D

http://www.trinary.cc/


Posted by DjSway on Oct-07-2005 15:37:

Ok so far we have Tiesto saying vinyl's dead, a new form of math Trinatary sumthing that will make students even worse than they are now since most can't even pass algebra (including myself) and oh the end of the world in 7 years...


Great!


Posted by Stu Cox on Oct-07-2005 16:32:

quote:
Originally posted by Briden
7 years and a bit: http://www.2012.com.au/

lol, what a load of shite.

If you've got a cynical sense of humour, you'll find that site hilarious... apparently there's an "off-world galactic federation" that controls the Earth... and Hitler is the Lord of Darkness.

quote:
Remember the CIA/military that Bush controls is over 400 years ahead in technology from the general public, but the off world forces are millions of years ahead of them!


Love it


Posted by razzi on Oct-09-2005 03:28:

yeah its pretty crazy how when i got into djing, it was still almost 100% vinyl (about 5 years ago).. mainstream djs were just beginning to dip into cdjs (back when pioneer launched the cdj100). most goa/psy djs were all cd, but thats because its hard to find good vinyl releases in those genres. i remember debating at the time when i was getting my equipment, but i opted for vinyl because it seemed as if cds would just compliment vinyl.. now, its definitely the other way around. if i were to start djing now, im almost certain id go cdj exclusive.. but i dont have the funds now to switch from vinyl to cd..

ahh who knows where this industry is going now. nothing really changes for 30 years, and then in 5 almost nothing is the same. fuck you technology (but not really)

razzi.


Posted by jupiterone on Oct-09-2005 03:45:

im waiting for everyones ignorance to get pwned on day


Posted by Nemesis44 on Oct-09-2005 14:29:

Did I tell you that I am the 34th Reincarnation of the famous Bongo Lama of Botswana and in 2012 I will cause a solar eclipse with my arse...

However, who's to say that the Mayans were wrong? Lots of stuff that we didn't even consider 20 years ago is with us today. The Mayans may have been maniacs or genius... time will tell.

Almighty Nem


Posted by djtrinity on Oct-09-2005 20:51:

the reason why all the supposed top 10 don't use vinyl is because they don't care anymore....they fly all over the place, getting paid retarded money, and they are spinning constantly and want to keep it interesting by playing with new toys.....

its really a shame because alot of new dj's look at this and say this is the way to go.....it is indeed a way to go if you are a guy who is doing this for a living fulltime and flying all over the world ....i would bet that if the top 10 dj's stopped flying around and decided to do a weekly residency in there hometown club there vinyl would remain in the club till the didn't play there anymore....

if u have 5 year or more spinning and have fully engaged in vinyl and cd mixing and computer mixing and u had your choice.....i bet it would be vinyl.......it certainly will always be for me

i don't play out that much and its actually enjoyable for me to transport vinyl......i'm sure if i was flying around it would get old real quick......

and tell tiesto to STFU ...he's a fawking idiot and is done


Posted by SteelWolf on Oct-09-2005 22:21:

As far as the goa scene goes, its almost all CD now, yeah stuff is released on vinyl, but teh good tracks are released on CD compilations


Posted by spdandpwr on Oct-09-2005 22:40:

ill only use cd to compliment vinyl...first of all if you tried scratching the kickbeat of a song on record and cd you will notice a difference in quality. i dj'd with the cdj-800 yesterday and was not impressed because if you have the start stop speed towards the middle you will year a "digital echo" when the song gets back to speed. Also i can't get the sound of a record stopping on the cdj800. i was playing with the start stop speed thing and for some reason i could not get the sound of when you press stop on a turntable. Also scratching on a cdj seems to be a bit trickier. I guess if you get used to it that it will be better. but since i get paid more to use vinyl records here in cali then forget cds (for now at least).


Posted by djdimensions on Oct-11-2005 04:26:

quote:
Originally posted by [NFC]Wave
Quote directly from Tiesto himself:


lol yeah its gotta be true i mean everything else he says is true too right


Posted by PABLO ESCOBAR on Oct-12-2005 04:40:

I seen Eddie Halliwell at the church in denver co and he used nothin but cds


Posted by Nemesis44 on Oct-12-2005 15:14:

Most of my promos get sent to me on CD now, so have little choice in the matter. Not through choice I might add but that is the way it's going for better or worse.

Cheers
Nem


Posted by Euphorica on Oct-12-2005 20:29:

most use cd these days just because its so much easier to carry a book/case of cd's around compared to a case of vinyl...its also cheaper to get songs.


Posted by TranceSpeeder on Oct-12-2005 20:58:

quote:
Originally posted by Euphorica
most use cd these days just because its so much easier to carry a book/case of cd's around compared to a case of vinyl...its also cheaper to get songs.


yea also cheaper for people to download all those 320kps mp3's. imo, cds are making producers loose money.


Posted by djthunderbird on Oct-12-2005 21:01:

quote:
Originally posted by TranceSpeeder
yea also cheaper for people to download all those 320kps mp3's. imo, cds are making producers loose money.


Producers still get their share from the 320 sells. The reason why mp3 is a lot cheaper than manufactured releases(cd + 12") is because labels dont have to pay pressing plants, distribution services, dont have to worry about logistics and so on..


Posted by TranceSpeeder on Oct-12-2005 21:06:

quote:
Originally posted by djthunderbird
Producers still get their share from the 320 sells. The reason why mp3 is a lot cheaper than manufactured releases(cd + 12") is because labels dont have to pay pressing plants, distribution services, dont have to worry about logistics and so on..


its also allot easier for people to share 320 version's from all these cds and mp3's than it use to be. check out DC++ for example, all i see is 320 versions when i use to see 192, free music?


Posted by djtrinity on Oct-12-2005 21:14:

quote:
Originally posted by TranceSpeeder
yea also cheaper for people to download all those 320kps mp3's. imo, cds are making producers loose money.


yeah i hear ya on that....the truth of the matter is that mostly bedroom dj's used to buy vinyls .....and add to that alot of them are young and don't have money to throw around on vinyl....so why go and spend the little money they have on vinyls that that might not play after another week....get the mp3 and use it...if they really like i guarrantee most will eventually buy a vinyl.....

I bet alot of u out there were just like me before this whole mp3 thing...u go to the shop ...come back with a bunch of vinyl and there will always be some track that you put on when you get home on say " why did I buy this!"

with mp3's there is no more of that for me...i spend my hard earned money on solid tracks....perhaps alot of these labels should focus more on quality then quantity.....phat tracks will sell out vinyl

'00' flemming wants to stop doing vinyls cause he just breaks out even on them..... even isn't good enough!!!! these guys just wanna line there pockets....the whole love of djing is dying and its a shame...it has gotten to large and to much money involved ....

its pathetic


Posted by djtrinity on Oct-12-2005 21:16:

quote:
Originally posted by djthunderbird
Producers still get their share from the 320 sells. The reason why mp3 is a lot cheaper than manufactured releases(cd + 12") is because labels dont have to pay pressing plants, distribution services, dont have to worry about logistics and so on..



yup which means more money for them....thats all this shit is about


Posted by DjSway on Oct-12-2005 21:24:

WIth the way technology is moving, cd's may even be absolute!

I'm slowy switching to software mixing and see how that is going to work for me.

I prefer vinyl but me got no money!


Posted by harriz on Oct-12-2005 21:27:

Re: Top Dj's not using vinyl anymore?

quote:
Originally posted by DjSway
Sorry if this thread is a repeat but it is not a vinyl vs cd thread.

I'm just noticing top dj's using cd's or other electronic format to spin their music now. IE Tiesto in concert was all cd & PVD is using that Final Scratch stuff.


They are not using VINYL anymore for the simple reason that music is sent to them
for promotional reasons, in a digital format.

But nobody (exept stupid bedroom djs) will give a shit in a club


Posted by DjSway on Oct-12-2005 21:28:

Yeah I agree, I mean who cares as long as it sounds good.


Posted by Nemesis44 on Oct-12-2005 21:44:

They are not really loosing money from this. If anything they have the oportunity to make more.
In reality you will find that the ones making money from the tracks themselves are very seldom the producers but in fact the record companies.
The cost of pressing quality vinyl is expensive and as Mr.Flemming states it is hard to break even sometimes. Ofcourse you want to make money off it, as it's what feeds your family!

But even if you look at the cost of a pre-bought CD in terms of what it actually costs to make, you know that the record company is raking it in.

I hear a lot of people bithing about how much people make and this ticks me off a little. First up the amount of sacrifice it takes to run a label is massive. I have a lot of friends who recently have gone bust due to dropping vinyl sales or just the type of music on the label has gone out of fashion. Heart breaking for them and a relief for me in the sense that I never went down that route.
If you have a family to support, your house etc. then it becomes a different matter. DJing/producing is something that you make your life, it's only right that you should get paid for doing so, if you are good at it that is.
DJing is about paying your dues and doing what noone else did. It's easy to look at these guys now and say that they are nothing special but they were doing it before some of you were born and made EDM what it is today.
I agree that some of them charge too much for a gig and they are simply not worth the money they are asking for but it's partly our fault for paying the ticket prices that they in effect set.

Besides, a lot of the US guys should be happy, they are now able to get the same tracks as us Europeans for pretty much the same price (allowing for different currency fluctuations etc.)

Vinyl is loosing popularity no doubt even if it's just in terms of sales not necessarily in spirit.

If you really want to have a go at someone make it the big boys like Sony, Virgin etc. as they are the ones who not only dictate that we should buy mindless pop shit but set the prices sky high for the privelage.

Nem


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