"10 years no dj's will be using turntables"-BT...??

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Posted by SteelWolf on Oct-20-2005 06:02:

Key shifting? HOW COOL!
Maybe i'll start playing around with ableton... fits my DJ style anyway... i like loops and samples and adding things to tracks... maybe this will be better?

I dunno tho, i'll never trash vinyl or CD totally...

Posted by Stu Cox on Oct-20-2005 07:26:

How many more "is this the end of vinyl?" threads are we going to get?

Posted by OTtrancer on Oct-20-2005 14:42:

I guess I'm sorta happy in the middle...I'm loving my new Final Scratch V2 and have all the aspects of the feel of vinyl and features of loops etc! Nothing close to Ableton, but I don't produce yet anyways.

Posted by Joost on Oct-20-2005 15:33:

I think Final Scratch will be the way to go. Best of both worlds!

Posted by punjabi on Oct-20-2005 19:54:

i really don't see how anyone can say that vinyl isn't going to all but disappear within the next decade. every new piece of equipment that comes out is geared toward digital music (cdj's, the new a&h controller, more and more software). nothing new is happening with vinyl.

Posted by OTtrancer on Oct-20-2005 20:08:

quote:
Originally posted by punjabi
i really don't see how anyone can say that vinyl isn't going to all but disappear within the next decade. every new piece of equipment that comes out is geared toward digital music (cdj's, the new a&h controller, more and more software). nothing new is happening with vinyl.

A time encoded vinyl that spins on your standard Tech and speaks directly to an mp3 being played from a digital source with zero latency isn't brand new technology?? Vinyl is still evolving my friend.

Posted by DarkFall01 on Oct-20-2005 23:38:

That demonstration sucked. I don't think he knew what he was doing
Whatever that blue light thing was, whenever he used it, it completely messed everything up...it sounded like the beats weren't matched. I hope this is not how his usual performances are like...

Posted by Lover Boy on Oct-20-2005 23:53:

quote:
Originally posted by Euphorica
kind of depressing if you're just getting into the whole thing..

but that is a lot of work . BT is crazy good. itll be hard for others to be so talented with such a program imo.

Having just got some cd decks, all I get told is to buy some TT's by DJ mates, all this debate is going to put people off getting into DJing as they will want to wait to see if vinyl dies or CD takes off as the prominent force.

Posted by xstalkrx on Oct-21-2005 00:02:

quote:
Originally posted by Lover Boy
Having just got some cd decks, all I get told is to buy some TT's by DJ mates, all this debate is going to put people off getting into DJing as they will want to wait to see if vinyl dies or CD takes off as the prominent force.

yes it almost put me off. but i said fuck it and went ahead and got some TT's and im just gonna see where it takes me.

Posted by 3xx3r7 on Oct-21-2005 02:41:

quote:
Originally posted by SpecRadio
Man After watching that movie I now hate everybody who does that.

1. NOTHING - NOT ONE thing sounded good.
2. He was standing there doing nothing the WHOLE time.
3. Ooh, you can press the space bar, you can play at the biggest clubs worldwide because your spacebar pressing is so "l33t"
4. It's gay...
5. If you can't carry 10,000 vinyls...buy SSL or FS... at least you're not cheating by having a program key tunes for you beatmatch them and bring them in while you dance like tiesto.

Yeah, pretty much sums it all up.

Damn that vinyl, everyone keeps saying, ever since 80's, that it is about to die. That son of bitch still does not die. Keeps living, bastard. Damn him.

Posted by Clovis on Oct-21-2005 03:08:

quote:
Originally posted by 3xx3r7
Yeah, pretty much sums it all up.

Damn that vinyl, everyone keeps saying, ever since 80's, that it is about to die. That son of bitch still does not die. Keeps living, bastard. Damn him.

You just quoted a retard who has no idea how ableton works. fyi.

Posted by x_moe on Oct-21-2005 15:41:

i think everyone should get rid off their turntables right now and get cd players instead, thats what i bought earlier, "turntables" Old Skool

Posted by spdandpwr on Oct-21-2005 19:32:

i hope you are being sarcastic with the selling of the turntables

Posted by buchnaner on Oct-21-2005 22:09:

fear change

coming from an improvisational musical background, i'm a lot happier with ableton than striaght up vinyl. but to each their own

anyone know what that blue-light-effects-thingy that BT was putting his hand over is? wtf????

Posted by Nemesis44 on Oct-22-2005 11:56:

Hmm...

That didn't really impress me that much to be honest.
Some bits where clever but I didn't actually think that all of it sounded that good to be honest.

I can also see a trap where DJs (If you can call them that) will be doing too much to the tracks which will get boring indeed.

But on the positive side of this, perhaps guys who really understand music will be the ones who get to be the DJs of the future as there is still a very musical element to it and this is something that a lot of residents don't have these days.

Cheers
Nem

Posted by nicktra86 on Nov-04-2005 05:40:

this is the way of the future, bt and many other djs have proved themselves behind the decks, theres nothing wrong with trying something new, which make things easier, and are limitless to what is possible.

Posted by F�anor on Nov-04-2005 05:57:

For people like me who likes the result more than the way to get it, who cares about TTs dying? Cds taking over, cds dying, mp3s taking over...

(I still hope Rane and Stanton will be able to produce their SSL/FS vinyls =) )

Enjoy the music...

Posted by DJ-MarkHills on Nov-06-2005 02:01:

in all honesty, i think the future holds a balanced combination of both worlds. at the moment i use ableton live with rane serato scratch and the possibilities are endless. i wouldnt say that vinyl is dead but i would say that the days of mixing a record in, scratching your testicals for 6 mins then mixing out is dead, and good fucking riddance to it. zabiela is a prime example of a DJ who actually works for his worth, and makes a fucking good job outta it too, whether he uses ableton or not.

and back 2 topic, i thought the vid was very cool.. i wanna know what that little airfx type thing was that made the stutter effect too

Posted by Zack Roth on Nov-06-2005 07:05:

quote:
Originally posted by DJ-MarkHills
in all honesty, i think the future holds a balanced combination of both worlds. at the moment i use ableton live with rane serato scratch and the possibilities are endless. i wouldnt say that vinyl is dead but i would say that the days of mixing a record in, scratching your testicals for 6 mins then mixing out is dead, and good fucking riddance to it. zabiela is a prime example of a DJ who actually works for his worth, and makes a fucking good job outta it too, whether he uses ableton or not.

and back 2 topic, i thought the vid was very cool.. i wanna know what that little airfx type thing was that made the stutter effect too

I think zabiela is definitely an innovative dj, but some of his sets are just painful to listen to. I understand that the process of what he is doing takes skill, but it doesn't always sound good. Take a great track, fuck around with it excessively, and it becomes a not-so-great track.

Posted by Allied Nations on Nov-06-2005 07:25:

quote:
Originally posted by zizack
I think zabiela is definitely an innovative dj, but some of his sets are just painful to listen to. I understand that the process of what he is doing takes skill, but it doesn't always sound good. Take a great track, fuck around with it excessively, and it becomes a not-so-great track.

Yeah, the opinion in the dj booth used to be - dotn fuck around too much , sometimes people just want to hear the song.

not many others could do what zabs does, but imo hes losing it. i am more and more bored with his sets.

Posted by Zack Roth on Nov-06-2005 07:34:

quote:
Originally posted by dinoXpress
Yeah, the opinion in the dj booth used to be - dotn fuck around too much , sometimes people just want to hear the song.

not many others could do what zabs does, but imo hes losing it. i am more and more bored with his sets.

I agree. This is dance music..people need a steady beat. Some of Zabiela's recent sets have these really long, weird FX breakdowns that don't do anything and just totally break up the flow IMO.

Posted by Mr.Mystery on Nov-06-2005 10:01:

quote:
Originally posted by DarkFall01
Whatever that blue light thing was, whenever he used it, it completely messed everything up...it sounded like the beats weren't matched...

Either you have no idea at all about what BT does or you're just being plain silly. It's supposed to sound like that.

Posted by Allied Nations on Nov-06-2005 13:09:

quote:
Originally posted by Mr.Mystery
Either you have no idea at all about what BT does or you're just being plain silly. It's supposed to sound like that.

Doesn't mean its good.....

Posted by Mr.Mystery on Nov-06-2005 13:50:

quote:
Originally posted by dinoXpress
Doesn't mean its good.....

I said that somewhere?

Posted by Allied Nations on Nov-06-2005 14:06:

quote:
Originally posted by Mr.Mystery
I said that somewhere?

Nope.

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