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Posted by Simon00 on Nov-03-2005 22:06:

Well i have had this discussion a bit. You start out Hard Trance cause thats how it happens. And it bangs along and requires no imagination and tells you what to do, basically orders you around the dancefloor. Then you get a bit sick of that so you slow down a bit to trance and everythings great for a while then after the millionth drum roll into a break down with the fluffy bit before you realise im bored everyone is doing the same thing, what else is there?

Then you find prog and i def love psytrance prog. (Its def more interesting than standard prog which i find a bit one dimensional and ploddy) There are so many amazing producers doing different things that actually require some imagination. In the past you never could have convinced that this music could be as emotional as trance but it is. Just a subtle change in a drum or when a track just builds so perfectly throughout and reaches an amazing peak without needing to fluff up or drum roll crescendo as per everyone else.

Im just loving stuff like Antix, Andre Absolut, D-Nox and Beckers at the moment.

So am i more educated now? Maybe but maybe per Vi i just know what i like and i suppose thats all that matters. Although i often laugh when i look back at my cd collection and realise that the past 7 years has seen a lot of changes for music and me.

Posted by tathi on Nov-03-2005 22:42:

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Originally posted by Simon00
Im just loving stuff like Antix, Andre Absolut, D-Nox and Beckers at the moment.

Andre Absolut is a fucking gun, one of the best producers around atm.

Posted by Light The Fuse on Nov-04-2005 00:24:

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Originally posted by Teknoscaper.
Jules tries to think too much, but to no avail.

one day...one day...one day eye'll think and it'll actually werk and you'll all be sorry eye tell you!!!!

d-nox - seven hours is a bomb

Posted by sm44 on Nov-04-2005 00:43:

I agree with simon00. Thats the transition i went through, hard trance, uplifting trance and i've been somewhere between trance and prog for the last couple of months. I dont wanna goto prog but thats the way im heading, not sure what it is but something is drawing me to it and there havent been many great trance tunes in the last 6 months, maybe 5-10, but these have a bit of a prog influence.

Posted by Aesthetic on Nov-04-2005 00:51:

Thats not the transition I went through. Commercial dance to trance, and progressive music right from the start.. have been that way since late 99. I do like psy which I got into moreso a couple of years back.. but I never made these huge switches like most of you guys make.

Posted by Philby on Nov-04-2005 03:19:

hiratzka & joe c - show u the way (chris micali remix)
antix - le lascard
threshold prod & sonify - no more silence (damien heck remix)

these tunes all lack big build ups, huge synths and 140 bpms, yet they can still provoke emotion.. they are just pumping tunes...i dont think you need to be 'educated' to enjoy them either...

Posted by queen_vee on Nov-04-2005 04:59:

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Originally posted by DaveBegic
Thats not the transition I went through. Commercial dance to trance, and progressive music right from the start.. have been that way since late 99. I do like psy which I got into moreso a couple of years back.. but I never made these huge switches like most of you guys make.

Aha, me too... no transitions for me, and I didn't get into dance-dance til 2002. Have always listened to trance of 98-01, today's trance is just boring/formulaic.

Thought I was a progressive girl according to today's definitions (til the majority of prog sets I saw were pretty damn boring!) Hard dance has always hurt my hand and induces a slight feeling of panic in me Ha. Still don't know how people dance to it...

Discovered Sunny parties, and now Mr Digweed (ah, my new hero!!) and I KNOW I'm a progressive girl, it's just got to be nice, hard prog. Not that deep experimental shit. I think prog got a bad name for a while due to what was in fashion as far as the genre went.

Often though, it's a bit like the only way to define a track these days is the genre by which Dj who first started spinning it is best known by (as in, if this Aftermath track was getting caned by PvD/Tiesto, it would be a trance track to all and sundry. And methinks it would fit nicely into one of their sets!)

Yeah. Forgotten my point too. I shouldn't work whilst writing important viewpoints on dance track cos then neither are done properly

Posted by marsh on Nov-04-2005 12:20:

All I can say is that the word 'educated' is being badly abused in this thread. I can assure you my taste in music has little to do with 'education' (musical or otherwise) and anybody knows me fairly well would attest to this. Farken get over yourselves...

Posted by Fpcookie on Nov-04-2005 14:18:

djway you're an idiot. what marsh said.

Posted by Teflon_Teapot on Nov-05-2005 01:47:

i dont understand this whole educated music thing, each to their own i say. everyone has different tastes in music hence the variety, it is pointless to justify and compare different styles because each one will appeal to a different kind of person. i have always liked trance, and will always like trance, i like other styles as well but trance will always hold a special place. now why is it that according to some i have progress to another style because i have become more 'educated'? i know after awhile i began to appreciate other styles of edm, but just because i dont conform to a certain script of musical progression does not mean i am not educated in music, or anyone is for that matter.

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