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Originally posted by Ishkur Madonna is a master of taking what the underground is doing, exploiting it, and selling a cheap, plastic pop version of it to the masses for commercial digestion. 1990: Madonna looks at the underground New York gay fashion scene, full of style, excess, posture, and that lovely Italo House with those piano hooks. She rips off the scene and releases Vogue/ 1992: Madonna focuses her sights on the emerging club kink/fetish scene, exploits it, and churns out Erotica. (and releases a raunchy book too, perfect for the art-house crowd). 1998: Madonna sees the growing fascination with trance explode everywhere, seeks to exploit it, hires William Orbit to be her Producer, and the end result is Ray of Light. 2000: French house is king in the club circuit, Madonna notices this too, seeks some funky french filter beats on her next album, which becomes Music. 2005: Now electro-house rules the dancefloors. Naturally, Madonna wants to co-opt this and pretend it's something she invented too. So Confessions on a Dancefloor has got the neo-synthpop sound through and through. The smartest thing she did was hire Les Rhythmes Digitales to be the mastermind of it. For all her staying power, Madonna is really only good at one thing: Surrounding herself with the best people she can find. I think of her more as a clever businessperson, a scenester, a poser, and a fronter all in one. But not really a musician. She's good at what she does, but she's really only a hollow faceplate, a shallow shell of what's actually there.

True. But most artists in most genres of music have to "grab whats for the taking" if you understand what I mean in order to sell records. The top selling records in the billboard (hip hop/pop) were produced by the top guys out there for example the neptunes,kool & dre, lil john,the alchemist, just blaze,kanye west,dr.dre and many more. Do you guys remember Ricky Martin, he hasnt had a hit in a long time and then what does he do, he goes and purchases a hot beat/instrumental made by the new producer Scott Storch and joins up with rising star Amerie and Fat Joe and makes a single called "I don't care" and its been playing on the major radio and Tv stations. Madonna is only doing what is necessary to sell, she does have talent and made some real classic tracks in her early career so please don't criticize her for what shes doing, because most artists who want to sell records have followed a similar formula. The only difference is that to get a "beat"/"instrumental" made for you by a famous non-edm producer it will cost you a fortune. If you want to make it and have a long "staying power" as you mentioned Ishkur, the artist has to keep putting out good music with catchy songs with beats like Jay Z has for a long period of time and all his recent album sales speak for themself. Madonna is only doing what she knows she needs to do to $ell.

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Originally posted by Ishkur Madonna is a master of taking what the underground is doing, exploiting it, and selling a cheap, plastic pop version of it to the masses for commercial digestion. 1990: Madonna looks at the underground New York gay fashion scene, full of style, excess, posture, and that lovely Italo House with those piano hooks. She rips off the scene and releases Vogue. 1992: Madonna focuses her sights on the emerging club kink/fetish scene, exploits it, and churns out Erotica. (and releases a raunchy book too, perfect for the art-house crowd). 1998: Madonna sees the growing fascination with trance explode everywhere, seeks to exploit it, hires William Orbit to be her Producer, and the end result is Ray of Light. 2000: French house is king in the club circuit, Madonna notices this too, seeks some funky french filter beats on her next album, which becomes Music. The real genius behind this album? Mirwais. 2005: Now electro-house rules the dancefloors. Naturally, Madonna wants to co-opt this and pretend it's something she invented too. So Confessions on a Dancefloor has got the neo-synthpop sound through and through. The smartest thing she did was hire Les Rhythmes Digitales to be the mastermind of it. For all her staying power, Madonna is really only good at one thing: Surrounding herself with the best people she can find. I think of her more as a clever businessperson, a scenester, a poser, and a fronter all in one. But not really a musician. She's good at what she does, but she's really only a hollow faceplate, a shallow shell of what's actually there.

i think thats the first post of urs ive ever agreed with. kudos to u

I'm kind of amused by Ish's post. I mean, duh, that's the point of Madonna.

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Originally posted by Cobalt I'm kind of amused by Ish's post. I mean, duh, that's the point of Madonna.

exactly altho incase of ray of light, only ray of light,skin and sky fits heaven has that distinctive trancesound really. nothing really matters is house, frozen is ambient breaks, the rest are downtempo or standard pop things

listening to the album now.
nice.

i heard a couple of months ago an interview with Juliet (by Tong i think, in Ibiza) about how Jacques Lu Cont is working with Madonna now, did he have anything at all to do with this track?

^i believe he produced the entire album... i think it was mentioned a page or two earlier in the thread...

yeah Stuart Price produced madonna's album and gwen stefani's...

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Originally posted by Floorfiller yeah Stuart Price produced madonna's album and gwen stefani's...

thanks jason.

btw, his remix of "what you waiting for" i absolutely still love.. such a great catch to it (and i don't mean the vocals).

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Originally posted by keithos27 btw, his remix of "what you waiting for" i absolutely still love.. such a great catch to it (and i don't mean the vocals).

Absolutly great song

AC -x0x-

I am sampling some of the tracks off of the official Madonna website. It is VERY disco

this album isnt even out yet, source?

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Originally posted by Dmatrox this album isnt even out yet, source?

theres a promo cd floating around.


.dJonE.

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Originally posted by Ishkur 2005: Now electro-house rules the dancefloors. Naturally, Madonna wants to co-opt this and pretend it's something she invented too. So Confessions on a Dancefloor has got the neo-synthpop sound through and through. The smartest thing she did was hire Les Rhythmes Digitales to be the mastermind of it.

Nice story there for the kiddies but your wrong.

This CD was made as a tribute to the early disco days in NYC that Madonna decided to re-expereince though this CD. IF you listen to the CD you can clearly hear the loops and re-harshes of classic disco tracks. For example, the track future lover has a loop that samples Donna Summer, etc.

Nice try 'analyzing' music again Ishkur

Do you know who Bobby Orlando is?

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Originally posted by Ishkur Do you know who Bobby Orlando is?

your boy friend ??

for all you kids here is more info. on bobby....

http://www.globaldarkness.com/artic...orlando_bio.htm
"Bobby Orlando, also known as Bobby O and known by his pseudo Orbob, is a New York based dance music artist and record producer.

He is most famous for his numerous disco anthems, among which his work with artists like Divine ("Shoot Your Shot", "Native Love"), The Flirts ("Passion", "Danger") and Roni Griffith ("Best Part Of Breaking Up"). For the mainstream audience, he is known as the producer behind several of the Pet Shop Boys' early hits, most notably "West End Girls". His greatest solo hit, "She Has A Way", was released in 1982."



read up quiz will be in 10 min. :lol:

Your use of Google is just as impressive as your return of Roddick's howitzer serves. Yes.

The Bobby Orlando/Giorgio Moroder sound (the galloping synth) is hot again. I predicted it here about a year and a half ago. These are the giants upon whom's shoulders the current crop of electroclash and electrohouse producers are standing on. The 80s revival of the last few years is built on this aesthete....ie: loop an Italo Disco or Synthpop cut, call it a track. We are currently tracking them all down.

Anyways, leading the charge is Stuart Price, aka Thin White Duke aka Jacques Lu Cont, aka Les Rythmes Digitales.

Madonna hired him because the sound is trendy and cool, and she is good at identifying trendy and cool things in the club circuit and exploiting them. Like all true businessmen, she adheres to nothing but the almighty dollar. She has no musical morality whatsoever. If transylavanian accordian polka music was hot, she'd make an album of that too.

When this sound is no longer cool in the next couple of years, she will dump it like a hot potato and move onto the next thing. This is what Madonna does. This is what she's always done. This is what she will continue to do.

That doesn't mean the music is bad. Far from it, I quite like the song. But I never foster any delusions about what it is, and what it's meant to do.

Tribute to disco? Please. Do you have any fucking idea how many house tracks sample disco cuts? You think Madonna thought this up all by herself? Or is she simply following the herd--and the money--in the post Mylo/Eric Prydz club scene?

Are you fuckin serious??

Or was you last post some kind of joke like your EDM guide ??


Fuck I don't know where to begin with your bullshit.

how about here....

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Originally posted by Ishkur The 80s revival of the last few years is built on this aesthete....ie: loop an Italo Disco or Synthpop cut, call it a track. We are currently tracking them all down. Anyways, leading the charge is Stuart Price, aka Thin White Duke aka Jacques Lu Cont, aka Les Rythmes Digitales.

or here

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Originally posted by Ishkur Madonna ...Tribute to disco? Please. Do you have any fucking idea how many house tracks sample disco cuts? You think Madonna thought this up all by herself? Or is she simply following the herd--and the money--in the post Mylo/Eric Prydz club scene?

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Originally posted by Roger Federer

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Originally posted by Ishkur Your use of Google is just as impressive as your return of Roddick's howitzer serves. Yes. The Bobby Orlando/Giorgio Moroder sound (the galloping synth) is hot again. I predicted it here about a year and a half ago. These are the giants upon whom's shoulders the current crop of electroclash and electrohouse producers are standing on. The 80s revival of the last few years is built on this aesthete....ie: loop an Italo Disco or Synthpop cut, call it a track. We are currently tracking them all down. Anyways, leading the charge is Stuart Price, aka Thin White Duke aka Jacques Lu Cont, aka Les Rythmes Digitales. Madonna hired him because the sound is trendy and cool, and she is good at identifying trendy and cool things in the club circuit and exploiting them. Like all true businessmen, she adheres to nothing but the almighty dollar. She has no musical morality whatsoever. If transylavanian accordian polka music was hot, she'd make an album of that too. When this sound is no longer cool in the next couple of years, she will dump it like a hot potato and move onto the next thing. This is what Madonna does. This is what she's always done. This is what she will continue to do. That doesn't mean the music is bad. Far from it, I quite like the song. But I never foster any delusions about what it is, and what it's meant to do. Tribute to disco? Please. Do you have any fucking idea how many house tracks sample disco cuts? You think Madonna thought this up all by herself? Or is she simply following the herd--and the money--in the post Mylo/Eric Prydz club scene?

absolutely right on dude. She's claiming it to be a tribute to disco but are we that stupid to believe this??? Listening to hung up tells me everything i need to know about the whole cd. It's all money and it's pretty clear she's ripping stuff off from the current scene. When it's all said and done, she'll move on to the next trendy thing indeed. Thats' madonna plain and simple.

I also felt a major EDM vibe from this ch00n. Well, the thing is she's a Dance artist. So she has to go along with the styles. Today, House or Trance is definatly more in than disco or Synth pop.

didnt Madonna want Prodigy to produce an album for her, but he rejected?

correct me if im wrong

Surely you mean THEY, right

Personally i think te album should be Stuart Price featuring madonna.
His production and writing style all over it- id lay bets that Madonna hasnt actually written much of it at all bar some of the vocals (which arent great truth be told)...but then, thats nothing new.

and:

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Originally posted by Ishkur Madonna is a master of taking what the underground is doing, exploiting it, and selling a cheap, plastic pop version of it to the masses for commercial digestion.

Hit the nail on the head. Its not a tribute to Disco- its a tribute to the sheep and their dollar bills.

p.s- that Abba sample in 'Hung up'- absolutely unforgivably bad.

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